Preview Rnd 10 - Carlton v Geelong Saturday 26th May 7.25pm @ GMHBA Stadium - Team Post #494

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Recent History:

R19, 2017, Geelong 18.15 (123) d Carlton 8.10 (58) at Etihad Stadium

R10, 2016, Carlton 16.8 (104) d Geelong 12.13 (85) at Etihad Stadium
R8, 2015, Geelong 22.8 (140) d Carlton 9.9 (63) at Etihad Stadium
R21, 2014, Geelong 11.16 (82) d Carlton 11.10 (76) at Etihad Stadium
R12, 2014, Geelong 16.11 (107) d Carlton 15.12 (102) at Etihad Stadium
R3, 2013, Geelong 18.11 (119) d Carlton 15.13 (103) at Etihad Stadium
GF, 1995, Carlton 21.15 (141) d Geelong 11.14 (80) at MCG

Likely line-ups:

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GEELONG CATS

B Tom Stewart, Harry Taylor, Jake Kolodjashnij
HB Zach Tuohy, Mark Blicavs, Jed Bews
C Mitch Duncan, Joel Selwood, Jordan Cunico
HF Sam Menegola, Stewart Crameri, George Horlin-Smith
F James Parsons, Tom Hawkins, Cory Gregson
FOL Zac Smith, Patrick Dangerfield, Gary Ablett
I/C Tim Kelly, Jordan Murdoch, Jack Henry, Jackson Thurlow


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CARLTON

B Aaron Mullett, Sam Rowe, Dale Thomas
HB Jacob Weitering, Liam Jones, Kade Simpson
C Lochie O'Brien, Marc Murphy, Sam Kerridge
HF Jarrod Garlett, Charlie Curnow, Darcy Lang
F Sam Petrevski-Seton, Harry McKay, Paddy Dow
FOL Matthew Kreuzer, Patrick Cripps, Zac Fisher
I/C Ed Curnow, Jed Lamb, Matthew Wright, Lachie Plowman
EMG Nick Graham, Cameron O'Shea, Patrick Kerr, Jack Silvagni


Umpires: Steve Hocking, Gerard Whateley, Chris Scott
4th Umpire: Jeff Gleeson QC


Depleted backlines:

Both teams are missing key players from their preferred backlines. Cats have Henderson and ….. nope, just Henderson missing from their line-up, while the Blues preferred defensive line is missing Doc, Marchbank, Weitering, Byrne, ASOS, Williamson and possibly Touhy. Collar-jazz-knee and Blicavs have been given the task of minding the opposition best forwards, with surprisingly good results so far this season and they have welcomed the reliable Harry Taylor back from injury. It is a pity that Lachie Henderson cannot get out on the park for this match, the Blues look a much better line up if he was playing.


Zac looks like he has put on 20 kgs since he went to the Cattery, not sure if it the hoops on the jumper or they are still trying to find a really solid back pocket since Josh Hunt retired. Either way, he has proved more than handy for a side lacking attacking flair from defence.


The makeshift defence at Carlton has been spectacular, and sometimes spectacularly bad when we have played loose and the midfield has been beaten. Rowe will get first crack at Hawkins while expecting Jones to line up on the resting ruckman when he is not being beaten up by Kreuzer in the middle. Plowman to Many-a-goaler, hope he returns to last seasons form.


Midfield:

This is where the battle begins and can be lost. The Cats may well back themselves in to win the ball first and simply pack their midfield with Brownlow vote magnet Patrick Dangerfield, Free kick magnet Joel Selwood and the criminally underrated Mitch Duncan going head to head with Cripps, Curnow and Kennedy. The one area this can be nullified is through the ruck contest with Rhys Stanley or Zac Smith being a weakness for the Cats when required to be the main man in the middle and Kreuzer playing at near career best form.


The second coming of G Ablett has not been the making of the Cats that many hoped, and at the risk of being crucified, would suggest that however many pieces of silver they are paying him to resurrect his standing at the Cattery, it is too much for what they are getting. Maybe someone misunderstood profitable as prophet-able. At least it will make his presence more palatable at the celebration of the trinity of bi-annual flags they won in the noughties when he knew what team first meant. Maybe he can rise again as a small forward.


Cripps is having a huge influence on our ability to win the ball and score, expecting Scott Selwood to be given first crack at Cripps if he gets off the leash. Curnow of the Ed variety will be given the job on Captain Selwood, maybe we can cut Ed off at the knees to avoid giving away free kicks for high tackles. That would also keep Selwood to under 20 possessions, a massive win for us.


After the starting team, the Cats still have bigger bodies to throw into the contest, Carlton has a fleet of light and skilled players which may get brushed aside too easily if it becomes a slugfest. Mature age recruit Tim Kelly has been a revelation this season, the only worry for the Cats is he has postponed talks of a new contract to concentrate on his footy. That never ends well.


The Cats will need to find a match up for Zac Fisher, the number one rated teenager in the AFL. If Dow, Fisher and SPS find plenty of it, the Cats do not run well enough both ways to get it back.


Forward lines:

The Blues have suffered the loss of the number one Ruck/forward in the game in Levi Casboult, forcing us to expose our kids to the best defenders. Pat Kerr made his well-deserved debut against the downhill skiers in place of Charlie Curnow, will be interesting to see if he can hold his spot.


Harry McKay was lethal in his first game when both Levi and Charlie took the attention of the defenders away from him. Got a couple of late goals to spare his blushes when Charlie was missing and did well enough while Levi was away for the first time against *. Getting the attention of Harry Taylor will be a good test, hopefully McKay can keep him accountable and stop him zoning off. Wright needs to stay busy and Lamb may get the job on Jed Bews to curb his run.


Esava Ratugolea has provided some much needed X-factor and flair for the Cats in the absence of Menzel, Varcoe, Motlop etc. Hawkins is fast becoming a liability, so will probably kick a bag against us. Other than those two, there are a few bit players rotating through and Dangerfield has been sacrificed to provide some structure and a target. Seems a waste of Brownlow winning talent to leave him forward, which is why Crameri is still listed as an AFL footballer. Workman like rather than lethal is how to describe the Cats forward line and their multitude of inadequacies are partially hidden by a dominant midfield.


Summary:

Games have been relatively even contests between these two clubs since 2013, however since the Cats poached two of our (at the time) better defenders, they are starting to get ahead again and had a big win in our last meeting. Our clubs have swapped a few players recently and if the Cats hadn’t got in the ear of Henderson, we would probably still be using him as a whipping boy. Touhy is the main reason they get any attack from their defence and is in pretty good form, would be nice (but unlikely) for him to have one of his wtf games this week. Apologies to Guthrie if he plays, still can’t get out of the habit of booing that number every time it goes near the ball, expect the Geelong faithful to provide the same courtesy to Lang in his first game against his old side. Looks like Billie Smedts is destined to play for our other side in the foreseeable future and it is unlikely that raises the ire of either set of supporters.


Cats will cop a lot of flack for meekly succumbing to * in the battle of the Substance Cup, named after Mark “Bomber” Thompson who supplied both clubs with plenty of highs (and a few lows). Expect them to come out firing and looking to bully their lighter, younger opposition and the umpiring fraternity. Blues would be hurting after giving the Dees their first 100 point win in 14 years. Both have plenty to prove to their supporters.


We can assume any free kick to Hawkins will cause Geelong Players Association President Patrick Dangerfield to point out the manifestly inadequate penalty, ensuring a subsequent 50 metre reduction in the distance to goal. This will likely result in Tommy winning back-to-back “Spud who played well against us” awards. It wont only be our players throwing up after the match if that happens.


Crowd is a factor at “Geelong Must Have Ball Always” stadium, so expecting the Cats to sneak home by 23+ points in a ducking close encounter.
 
IN: Marchbank, Weitering, Ed Curnow, Charlie Curnow, Cunningham

OUT: Dow(rested), O'Brien(rested), O'Shea(omitted), Kerr(omitted), Garlett(omitted)
 

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In: Ed, Weitering and Cuningham (charlie if ready)
Out: O’Shea, O’Brien and Garlett (Kerr)
 
This will get ugly. Only thing that may save us is that their defence has been shaky all year. Hopefully Charlie is right to go, he’s the difference between us kicking any sort of decent score. We had no reliable target today and that along with horrid ball use killed us.

Their midfield is likely to destroy us. Just too many good experienced players in there.

In:
Both Curnows and Weitering hopefully.

Out:
O’Shea, Garlett, Kerr.

If O’Shea isn’t dropped there has to be serious questions asked Bolton and co. Unless something drastic happens with their ability, I don’t think Garlett or O’Shea should play for us again. Neither are AFL standard in my opinion.
 
This will get ugly. Only thing that may save us is that their defence has been shaky all year. Hopefully Charlie is right to go, he’s the difference between us kicking any sort of decent score. We had no reliable target today and that along with horrid ball use killed us.

Their midfield is likely to destroy us. Just too many good experienced players in there.

In:
Both Curnows and Weitering hopefully.

Out:
O’Shea, Garlett, Kerr.

If O’Shea isn’t dropped there has to be serious questions asked Bolton and co. Unless something drastic happens with their ability, I don’t think Garlett or O’Shea should play for us again. Neither are AFL standard in my opinion.

Unfortunate we are playing them at the Cattery...they are a completely different team there to any other ground.
Any Geelong supporter will tell you that despite how good their midfield looks on paper, they have been poor in that area this year.

You're right, Charlie is just about our most important player now alongside Cripps. He's the one who defenders worry about and who can take big marks and open the game for us. A lot of those forward half turnovers that happened vs Melb wouldn't have if Charlie was there marking it.

I agree with your changes, they look the most likely.
Marchbank, Kennedy, Cuningham & Willo shouldn't be rushed back from injury - but we can look forward to having them in the team in a few weeks.
 
Out: O'Shea, Rowe, Kerr, Graham, Lamb, Mullett
In: Marchbank (if fit), Weitering, C.Curnow, SOS, Cuningham, E.Curnow


If Marchbank is fit, O'Shea goes, but in all likelihood he will stay in, again. There's also a chance he goes for Polson, Williamson or Shaw, with someone else dropping into the defensive unit. What's important is that the nous/fitness/speed mix back there has to change so that there is an overall increase in midfield play and midfield pressure from the entire side.

Likewise, Weitering presents as more offensive than Rowe, who is clearly struggling on any remotely mobile talls. Jones was exploited today by McDonald, sure, but Rowe was a non-factor. Hopefully Jacob's time providing more voice for the NB's defensive unit has him prepared to be a leader in the backline alongside Plowman and Simpson, because we desperately need a fresh voice and cool head down there.

You can see me addressing that speed/fitness/midfield balance from the other end of the ground by dropping Graham and Lamb as well. People are going to scream at me because Graham had a wealth of possessions, but I've never seen a duller 28 possession performance. He rarely found space, turned it over 25% of the time, and did nothing the other way. Kerridge had a dirty day (arguably from having to run around like a lunatic again), but Graham was actually worse. I'm fed up with the two to four 30 metre kicks a game that people praise him for while his mates are looking exhausted because they're doing all the running he isn't, so I'd like to see him replaced with someone who can actually compete for first possession at the stoppage and at least stick tackles and position well.

Lamb's unfortunate, but replacing him with midfield support is pretty paramount. Garlett did a mountain of running today that clearly went unrewarded, while Lamb somehow wound up marking Hibberd and got a bath. If that's how he's going to be used when there's an incredibly obvious matchup, he shouldn't be in the team as he presents as an easy mark for the opposition to exploit with run off HB, and they did. Cuningham could directly replace his role, but I'd rather we ask a bit more defensively of Garlett and Wright, and let our mids freely rotate through the forward group.

Charlie for Kerr and Ed for Mullett are a no-brainers.

FB: Plowman Jones Marchbank
HB: Thomas Weitering O'Brien
C: Murphy Lang Simpson
HF: SPS C.Curnow Fisher
FF: Wright McKay Garlett

R: Kreuzer Cripps E.Curnow

Int: Kerridge, Dow, SOS, Cuningham
 
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Our only saving grace is that Geelong might think we'll be easy fodder and not be there 100% mentally (even though they'll be itching to make a statement).

Out: Garlett, O'shea, Dow, Rowe
In: Curnow, Curnow, Weitering, Cunningham
 

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Out: O'Shea, Rowe, Kerr, Graham, Lamb, Mullett
In: Marchbank (if fit), Weitering, C.Curnow, SOS, Cuningham, E.Curnow

Garlett covered some ground but it's for minimal impact at any contest, he cannot keep playing AFL. He needs to go back and learn how to use his aerobic fitness to good effect, find some space, run and carry, break the lines. At this stage he is just running to contests, being second to the ball, losing that contest, repeat.
 
Bombers beat the Cats. We beat the Bombers...I'd like to believe anything can happen. Attitude and mentality will either lift you up or kill you on the day.
 
Garlett covered some ground but it's for minimal impact at any contest, he cannot keep playing AFL. He needs to go back and learn how to use his aerobic fitness to good effect, find some space, run and carry, break the lines. At this stage he is just running to contests, being second to the ball, losing that contest, repeat.
I'm not sure there was much space to be found the way the entire team was rolling back. He just exhausted himself trying to pressure their more defensively-positioned runners.

I'd rather combine his efforts with Cuningham than leave the door open with Lamb's lack of endurance. I also don't see a matchup at all for Lamb as a defensive forward.
 
If we could pick this side for next week I wouldn’t hesitate

Best available

Simpson - Jones - Marchbank
Thomas - Weitering - Plowman
Cuningham - Cripps - SPS
Lang - C.Curnow - Murphy
Kerr - McKay - Wright
Kruz - Fish E.Curnow
Dow - O’Brien - Kerridge - Graham

Out Garlett - Rowe - O’Shea - Mullet
In Marchy- Weitering - Curnow Curnow
 
OUT - Paddy Dow (Managed), Lochie O'Brien (Managed), Jarrod Garlett (Omitted), Patrick Kerr (Omitted), Cameron O'Shea (Omitted), Aaron Mullett (Omitted)
IN - Ed Curnow, Charlie Curnow, Jacob Weitering, David Cuningham, Caleb Marchbank, Jack Silvagni
NEED TO LIFT - Liam Jones, Marc Murphy, Lachie Plowman, Sam Petrevski-Seton, Matthew Wright

FB -
Sam Rowe, Liam Jones, Caleb Marchbank
HB - David Cuningham, Dale Thomas, Kade Simpson
C - Nick Graham, Patrick Cripps, Zac Fisher
HF - Darcy Lang, Charlie Curnow, Marc Murphy
FF - Jed Lamb, Harry McKay, Matthew Wright
R - Matthew Kreuzer, Ed Curnow, Sam Petrevski-Seton
I - Lachie Plowman, Jack Silvagni, Jacob Weitering, Sam Kerridge

E - Matt Shaw, Andrew Phillips, Aaron Mullett, Angus Schumacher

No reasons why for anything. Need to make changes and need to make them now.
 
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