Query Ross Faulkner footies in the AFL?

[killer]

Robert S Don was another early player in the football market
born in Bendigo (1875-1928) he apprenticed at a harness
company in Ballarat building a factory in Brunswick in the 1900s
Don was making footballs from 1910

punching ball patient
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/202187462



Picture of Mr Don
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/184826694

 

[killer]

Denzil Don
I'm guessing this is one of his decendents:

http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/22422718

 

[35Daicos]

Denzil Don
I'm guessing this is one of his decendents:

http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/22422718

Yes, Denzil Don was his son:- http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/3964228

Denzil was the Mayor of Brunswick at one stage, and was elected to the committee of Carlton Football Club in 1951.

 

[Garlic muncher]

Robert S Don was another early player in the football market
born in Bendigo (1875-1928) he apprenticed at a harness
company in Ballarat building a factory in Brunswick in the 1900s
Don was making footballs from 1910

punching ball patient
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/202187462



Picture of Mr Don
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/184826694

Wonder if he worked/knew the Burley Brothers, whom i believe moved from Ballarat around the 1900's to Perth.

 

[killer]

Wonder if he worked/knew the Burley Brothers, whom i believe moved from Ballarat around the 1900's to Perth.

possibly

Burley is said to have worked for Allchin brothers
Robert Don worked for Ballarat Harness company (Allchin and Morell)

 

[killer]

Fred Swale (1878 - 1934) Swale's wattle brand
would be another competitor in the pre WWI

was a long term Sherrin employee
starts advertising around 1912

seems to have had more success with cricket ball manufacture

the endorsement they have in their ads is the GVDF Association

 

[killer]

The Perth ban on non WA footballs seems to end in the mid 50s

West Australian 24/08/1954
IMPORTED FOOTBALLS TRIED BY CLUB

Footballs manufactured in Victoria were used for the
first time by East Fremantle for its home game against
East Perth last Saturday.

East Fremantle lost no time in taking advantage of a decision
made by the W.A. National Football League, at its last meeting, to allow Victorian
balls to be imported.

It was East Fremantle which suggested that the long-standing ban on balls, other than
those made locally, be lifted.

The East Fremantle secretary (Mr. Roy Smith) said' yesterday that the Victorian Ross
Faulkner balls, which had been used on Saturday, had met with the general approval of
his players.

Considering the bad weather on Saturday, East Fremantle
had an ideal day for the experiment.

"The balls were thoroughly soaked in the rain and yet
they were in perfect shape after the match," Mr. Smith said.

"Now we must wait to see how long the balls will last.

"At least we are safe in the knowledge that they do not deteriorate as quickly as locally
made balls, which have been useless even for training purposes--after one game."

Mr. Smith said that his club used 170 balls or more during a season.

 

[killer]

Rubber Football - invented, patented, trialed, discarded

In the mid 30s a E.J Clutterbuck held a patent for a rubber/canvas
covered football

this was trialed in suburban leagues and evaulated by the state leagues

Its postitives were water resitatance the negatives appear to be
that it did not behave like a leather football



http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/188377344

http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/133469675

http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/128486898



This could be the same Clutterbuck years later
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/91755202

 

[ManOfClay]

I still vividly remember being told by a north Adelaide footballer conducting a clinic at my small rural south Australian school sometime in the mid 90s that the footy "wouldn't bite me".

That was a Faulkner footy. Were they used in the SANFL at that time?

Was in a league that used Burleys later on. Like balloons

 

[Harry Hook]

I fund this article in my researches

4 October 1930 Sporting Globe

http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article182998518

It relates the story of one Charlie Palmer, a Geelong player pre VFL.

He talks about the football played with in the "good old days" and says it was bigger than a 1930's soccer ball and was round.

 

[Bunk Moreland]

My memory is of Adelaide using the Faulkner in home games in the 90s. I assumed sometime after that the AFL did an exclusive deal with Sherrin.

 

[Michael Riley]

What's with the "Match II" moniker any way?
Was there ever a Match I?

I think it comes from the original Rugby Ball

Rule 1–- ..The ball to be used shall be the no2 size Rugby (26 inches in circumference)
(Laws of the Game – Victorian Football Association (1877) - Source:The Yorker, 2010, Issue 41 p25

 

[Michael Riley]

I've probably opened a can of worms here but what it appears is that there were a miscellany of bulls in use prior to 1907 under various names but Sherrin in 1908 took the lead but there was still the Burley/Sherrin divide in 1930.

Or is that too simplified.

If you are talking just about the old VFL, then I think Sherrin dominated the market. But the VFA, WAFL, Country leagues etc were a battleground for the all the various ball manufacturers. I think the big changes in the importance of the Sherrin 'Brand' happened after the emergence of the AFL as an elite league above the other leagues.

 

[killer]

ABC Radio national podcast about the Clutterbuck football (from 2015)

Clutterbuck’s dream: the ball and the box - ABC listen

The Sherrin footy is an icon, it’s a uniquely Australian item. But it could have been very different. This is the story of one man's great scheme, in Depression era Australia, to invent a waterproof football.

www.abc.net.au

 

[bitadash]

Apologies if this isn't an appropriate question for this thread! But I am trying to find some old footballs - specifically Chesson, Burley or Rovers (although i am not confined to these).

Do you fine football fans know where, or how, to source some? (gumtree, ebay excluded - as I have obviously been looking) Are there any football clubs that have a trove hidden away? Is there an old sporting warehouse with some?

 

[Les Malone]

Apologies if this isn't an appropriate question for this thread! But I am trying to find some old footballs - specifically Chesson, Burley or Rovers (although i am not confined to these).

Do you fine football fans know where, or how, to source some? (gumtree, ebay excluded - as I have obviously been looking) Are there any football clubs that have a trove hidden away? Is there an old sporting warehouse with some?

 

[BringBackTorps]

But I am trying to find some old footballs - specifically Chesson, Burley or Rovers

Who produced Rovers balls, & when?

Are there any football clubs that have a trove hidden away? Is there an old sporting warehouse with some?

Have you contacted WC, Freo & WAFL clubs- they might have museums?

 

[killer]

Rover was manufactured by hr solomon Perth in the 1950s

 

[killer]

Eaton footballs were manufactured in northam from 1910
apears they were used in the WANFL

 

[killer]

Blurb side of the afl 100 yr sherrin

 

[killer]

More Burley History

Western Mail 1946

From the hides of North-West cattle to the finished product ROMANCE OF A FOOTBALL - Western Mail (Perth, WA : 1885 - 1954) - 8 Aug 1946

FORTY years ago, three young men were walking along a city street. Two of them were discussing a subject in ...

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"A sample of a local made Football was offered by H. Burley, of Beaufort-street" (bottom of page 13)
West 1907

FOOTBALL. - AUSTRALIAN GAME. - The West Australian (Perth, WA : 1879 - 1954) - 3 Aug 1907

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"When 'Joe' Burley was a youngster living in Bridge-road, Richmond, he
found a great deal to interest him in the activities of the shop next door, where
a man named Goodacre manufactured footballs and other sporting requisites."

Who was Goodacre?"
Daily News 1929

MAKING FOOTBALLS - Mr. Burley's Career GIANTS OF THE PAST - The Daily News (Perth, WA : 1882 - 1955) - 21 Jun 1929

A well-known and popular identity in local football circles is Mr. J. L. Burley, manufacturer of the Burley ball, whose association with the games goes back ...

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The “Burley” Football. - Avon Argus and Cunderdin-Meckering-Tammin Mail (WA : 1925 - 1954) - 22 Jul 1933

The writer recently had an interesting chat with Mr. J. L. Burley, whose intimate connection with all matters relating to Australian football dates ...

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Sands Melbourne 1885 bridge street

interesting com here about J.F Burley

Talk:Burley-Sekem - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Les Malone]

Came across this recently at a house i did some work at.

 

[Mockcockpit]

Got an old Chesson at home somewhere, kids size but signed by the Swan Districts 1982 premiership side

 

[killer]

The Sandow 1908, out of Brisbane
Would there have been much difference in a AR and a rugby ball at this time?

 

[Les Malone]

The Sandow 1908, out of Brisbane
Would there have been much difference in a AR and a rugby ball at this time?

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Australian Football - Bill Becker - Player Bio

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