Preview Round 15 - Swans v Suns

[Mick Oxlong]

Great preview Olian!


I disagree with your INs/OUTs here mikey.

Have managed to watch the NEAFL the last few rounds... No way should Knoll get a nod IMO. At a significant height advantage against a 2nd choice Ruck and he seemed to struggle still. Had very poor placement of his hitouts, looked out of sync and not up to speed. I don't think he contributed too greatly around the ground either. Can see his value but reckon he'll need more time to learn the zones etc IMO.

On the other hand, Cameron being pulled from the NEAFL indicates to me they were saving him in case he was required for senior selection this week should Sinkers not get up... I think he should get a gig and Sinkers should be given a week off in any event. Cal has been a workhorse since Naisy went down and I think a rest would do him (& us) good... Give Cameron a crack at first ruck for a few weeks. Give him the ultimatum & chance to prove his worth. If he is indeed looking elsewhere due to external interest (as is rumour) then it's his chance (& ours) to push his value up. If he plays well, perhaps the club sits down and re-negotiates something too. What is there to lose really?

Melican will also be required this week. The Suns have a very tall and mobile forward line and Melican (our tallest defender I believe) is going to be needed IMO. Also, no point in dropping a KPD for a few sloppy disposals. He was trying hard and pushing to the right spots. His effort and decision making seemed to me to be ok, execution was a bit off. Dropping him won't help that IMO. He needs AFL level exposure to improve that side of his game. I'd also be loathed to put MCCartin back. I don't want to see another Jesse White/Sam Reid type "throw the kid all over the place as he is developing" deal. McCartin should be played forward and settled into 1 role (initially) IMO.

Darcy Cameron unspecified injury in training was the reason for his withdrawal from this game

NEAFL: Rowbottom, Jack star in win

The Canberra Demons surged late but two of the game’s stand-outs combined at the death to give the Sydney Swans breathing space on Saturday afternoon, joining forces for a critical goal en route to an eight-point win at UNSW Canberra Oval.

m.sydneyswans.com.au

Which one is it...being pulled OR unspecified injury?

 

[Kiama Chris]

Yep - he is really looking the goods. Just keep him eating and in the gym for now I guess.
Fox is also back and could come in. While obviously not half the player JPK is the period he played and JPK didn't saw us moving the ball a lot better with Florent spending more time inside and just generally more speed and movement in the midfield while Parker and Hewett held it down on the inside.
It could be time for JPK to go and learn to coach on a 1 + 1 deal somewhere at the end of the year. (A new 2 year deal it is then?).

IN: Grassy, McCartin
OUT: Buddy, Melican't. (Sinkers to play forward, McCartin back)

Bit early yet for Grassy. Cameron too slow in thought and reaction. Grassy yet to understand his role at AFL level or maybe be fit enough.

 

[momentbymoment]

Then there's the Menzel dilemma. I thought he was still OK in general play, snuck a goal out the back but he definitely looked a little slow when defending. Not setting the world on fire but with Bud out it might help to keep him in.

Can’t see the point in Menzel ....

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Can’t see the point in Menzel ....

The fact he's one of our best field kickers and decisions makers going forward is the reason I'm playing Menzel. Needs to get it more but I always feel at ease when he has the ball.

 

[momentbymoment]

The fact he's one of our best field kickers and decisions makers going forward is the reason I'm playing Menzel. Needs to get it more but I always feel at ease when he has the ball.

The fact that he can’t run and will not be part of our long term future makes me meh about Menzel.

 

[The King!]

Have liked mills form in recent weeks wonder if he might wander into the middle one day

Hard to get excited about playing the suns

 

[dosser]

Why are posters saying this player or that player should have a rest for a week? They are professional footballers just coming off the bye, for goodness sake.

 

[Grand Uncle Horace]

Why are posters saying this player or that player should have a rest for a week? They are professional footballers just coming off the bye, for goodness sake.

Watching the Dawks game it was difficult to avoid the conclusion that JPK is still significantly hampered by injury. If this is the case, I would prefer he got right rather than play under duress and risk exacerbating it.

 

[MickyG]

Watching the Dawks game it was difficult to avoid the conclusion that JPK is still significantly hampered by injury. If this is the case, I would prefer he got right rather than play under duress and risk exacerbating it.

As players get older, they tend to take longer to get form back after soft tissue injuries. McVeigh has taken three to four weeks after his recent injuries to get back in form.

 

[MickyG]

Injury report lists Cameron with a quad injury and out for 2 - 3 weeks.

I would assume Sinclair would not play this week. Someone up to date with the concussion rules? If that is the case, Thursday will be interesting. Reid and Aliir share the rucking?

 

[SBD Gonzalez]

Speaking of Hayward and Ollie for that matter, they look so young to me I'd expect both to get excited by Easter Egg Hunts and to be up before dawn on Xmas morning.

I still get Hayward and Snightingale mixed up. Two peas in a pod.

 

[GotTheGoodes]

Which one is it...being pulled OR unspecified injury?

I'd always defer to grimlock on the ressies mate.

 

[BloodySwan]

Have liked mills form in recent weeks wonder if he might wander into the middle one day

Hard to get excited about playing the suns

Don't get my hopes up!

After last year I'll just be happy to beat the Suns

 

[Mick Oxlong]

The fact that he can’t run and will not be part of our long term future makes me meh about Menzel.

How do you know Menzel is not going to be part of our long term plans?

 

[BruceFromBalnarring]

Yep but despite all that I really think it’s just his goalkicking. He’s kicked 11.12. Nearly all of those behinds have been very gettable shots that he would typically nail in his first two seasons where he was arguably our best sharpshooter. Let’s say he nails three quarters of those behinds, and he’s kicked 19 goals for the year in 9 games. That would be huge.

That’s how fine the line is between him having an excellent season as opposed to the decent season he’s having. Just needs to start getting some reward for himself

He's never shot at better than 63% (his first year).

 

[caesar88]

He's never shot at better than 63% (his first year).

Doesn’t change the fact he was our most reliable set shot the first two years

 

[BruceFromBalnarring]

Doesn’t change the fact he was our most reliable set shot the first two years

But he wasn’t.

 

[caesar88]

But he wasn’t.

IMO he was.

 

[BruceFromBalnarring]

IMO he was.

2017

Reid 30.17 68%
Hayward 22.13 63%

2018

Parker 25.9 74%
Hayward 28.18 61%

It’s not an opinion question. It’s a statistical one.

 

[caesar88]

2017

Reid 30.17 68%
Hayward 22.13 63%

2018

Parker 25.9 74%
Hayward 28.18 61%

It’s not an opinion question. It’s a statistical one.

Actually it is an opinion one.

Because at no point did I say he was our most accurate forward. I believe I referred to him as a sharp-shooter. Because he's very good on the set shot, including difficult angles and in clutch moments. He's no good at bananas, and he fluffs some snaps that these boys are supposed to be practising at training, but as a set-shot he's always been very impressive. Not so this year.

 

[momentbymoment]

How do you know Menzel is not going to be part of our long term plans?

How do I know Papley will be a Swans legend?

I don’t.
But I think he will.

And I think the Menzel project will be quietly scrapped next year.

 

[Donza]

So Cunningham and McVeigh in the mix?

 

[Mick Oxlong]

How do I know Papley will be a Swans legend?

I don’t.
But I think he will.

And I think the Menzel project will be quietly scrapped next year.

Yeah I never asked about Papley. I responded to your comment about Menzel. Now ‘think’ and “The ‘fact’ that he can’t run and ‘will not’ be part of our long term future makes me meh about Menzel”

Fact...Menzel can run, I’ve seen him!
Will not...you must be in the know!
Think...is not ‘will not’!

 

[Grand Uncle Horace]

The young fella can run but in straight lines. He struggles with sharp turns.

 

[momentbymoment]

The young fella can run but in straight lines. He struggles with sharp turns.

His turning circle is meh.
As is his awareness of team rotations.