Unofficial Preview Round 2, 2023: Swans v Hawks, SCG 1:10pm March 26th

[RiverRiver]

Is Logan McDonald playing? If so, bring in DGB who apparently toweled him up in his draft year. Might be a confidence starter for the lad.

 

[Brishawk]

That's not true. The only current starting quality rucks that was not playing good football prior to turning 25 are Oscar McInerney and Marc Pittonet. I'm not sure that anyone here would be rating either as one of the best rucks in the league right now either (especially the latter).

The only gun ruck was Witts, but at this same age he was just about to have a breakout dominant season. I'd be amazing if Reeves replicates the effort and averages 13.3 touches, 2.6 marks, 3.6 tackles, 3.6 clearances and 37.9 hitouts.

Maybe Darcy Cameron too, however he is a much better athlete than Reeves and was also played as a KPF.

Every other quality rucks, and some average ones too - Darcy, Gawn, Goldy, Nic Nat, Hickey, Lycett, English, ROB, Grundy, Marshall, Stanley etc - had already had good to great seasons under their belts.

Your post doesn’t relate to my post

 

[A Diakos]

Pittonet would be good if not for his physical issue.

small hands ??

 

[Stranglers]

small hands ??

 

[burner1]

Is Logan McDonald playing? If so, bring in DGB who apparently toweled him up in his draft year. Might be a confidence starter for the lad.

He beat him but was hardly a towelling.

WAFL League Player Focus: Logan McDonald (Perth) vs. Denver Grainger-Barras (Swan Districts)

Two of Western Australia's best players went head to head over the weekend in Denver Grainger-Barrass and Logan McDonald in an eye catching display

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[Lawsy]

He copped on here after last week, but he also had 18 touches at 100% disposal efficiency which is a rare stat in brown and gold in the past 5 years.

DE% is a flawed stat. Kick it over 40m to a contest and it is an effective kick if not marked.
Yet a kick from the half back line into space which bounces and allows the receiver to run into it is ineffective as it wasn't marked nor to a contest..
Example 2 is effective.
Remember Damon Greaves, he used to be 90-100% every game but every kick was from the back pocket, down the line to a contest.

 

[PenAndPaper]

DE% is a flawed stat. Kick it over 40m to a contest and it is an effective kick if not marked.
Yet a kick from the half back line into space which bounces and allows the receiver to run into it is ineffective as it wasn't marked nor to a contest..
Example 2 is effective.
Remember Damon Greaves, he used to be 90-100% every game but every kick was from the back pocket, down the line to a contest.

That's not correct. If we retain possession its effective, it doesnt have to be a mark.

 

[Lawsy]

You are correct PenAndPaper, CD have added words to that effect for long kicks and added a ground kick definition which wasn't there a few years ago.

 

[PenAndPaper]

You are correct PenAndPaper, CD have added words to that effect for long kicks and added a ground kick definition which wasn't there a few years ago.

Yeah believe it changed a couple years ago. Why it wasn;t like this the whole time is strange though haha

 

[Judd2Sewell]

Your post doesn’t relate to my post

You said many rucks are garbage prior to 25. My post specifically relates to that. The best rucks have all shown something prior to turning 25 bar the names I mentioned.

 

[TheFourPillars]

Day in full training wont miss u can all rest easy

 

[Rowie6]

Sorry, how does this make Sam look stupid?

Seriously have you ever strained a calf compared to a cramp?
He a literally lied to all of us!
What for ??
Tell the truth it doesn’t look as silly !


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[The Spirit of Cricket]

You said many rucks are garbage prior to 25. My post specifically relates to that. The best rucks have all shown something prior to turning 25 bar the names I mentioned.

His argument is just that rucks develop later and there's no reason that Reeves can't continue to improve, even athletically, for the next 3-4 years. Not that Reeves' output is comparable to any of theirs.

while many of those names you listed had good seasons pre-25, the vast majority of them only become top-tier rucks post the age of 25, and many of them 27+

Plus if the metric is just showing something, Reeves has shown something. He's already a good tap ruckman above avg in most ruck-related stats.

As you say, he's very poor around the ground though and that is the area he will need to continue working on to make it as a ruckman going forward. If he could go at ~4 marks 3 tackles a game while winning majority of the hitouts, that would be a massive win for us going forward.

 

[TylerDurden]

Reeves and Meek should obliterate Ladhams and McLean if we're fair dinkum here.

 

[TylerDurden]

Btw last time we played, old mate Ronke kicked 3 and Bud kicked 3.4. Neither are playing Sunday. And Max Lynch rucked with Nash and we got towelled in there.

 

[The Spirit of Cricket]

nobody gave us a chance in this one either

 

[DannyJ]

Reeves and Meek should obliterate Ladhams and McLean if we're fair dinkum here.

Reeves wouldn't obliterate the Sunday Church league.

Fingers crossed Meek plays a ripper

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[Judd2Sewell]

Reeves and Meek should obliterate Ladhams and McLean if we're fair dinkum here.

Ladhams is good around the ground, that's going to be the main concern for us where he is concerned. He's very mobile for a ruck/KPF.

 

[Boot Studder]

Reeves wouldn't obliterate the Sunday Church league.

Fingers crossed Meek plays a ripper

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Actually, those church leagues were pretty competitive. I’d hate to think what would happen to Noodle in the midst of battle between St Columb’s and the old West Hawthorn Presbyterians!

 

[H00t]

nobody gave us a chance in this one either

The two things I remember from that game where dukes tackling and the energy and intensity we brought to that game.

It was just after a poor showing against the suns and the bye. And we just hit them with everything. Need to do the same thing again this week if we want to win

 

[Brishawk]

You said many rucks are garbage prior to 25. My post specifically relates to that. The best rucks have all shown something prior to turning 25 bar the names I mentioned.

No bro, I’m talking about all rucks in the system, not select rucks or the best rucks or any other subset.

 

[TylerDurden]

Ladhams is good around the ground, that's going to be the main concern for us where he is concerned. He's very mobile for a ruck/KPF.

Meek is as mobile, if not more. And should brain him in the hitouts. Bring him.

 

[Simon Crawshay]

Meek is as mobile, if not more. And should brain him in the hitouts. Bring him.

Ladhams had 20 disposals and 5 clearances last week.

Those are pretty decent numbers for a ruck.

Be great to see Meek turn it up a notch this Sunday and start to find a bit more of the footy / have an influence around the ground. That's what I imagined he was going to bring to the club when we drafted him TBH.

 

[theiaofseed]

You said many rucks are garbage prior to 25. My post specifically relates to that. The best rucks have all shown something prior to turning 25 bar the names I mentioned.

Yet Reeves has shown something which you deny

 

[Mitchell Madness]

Pittonet would be good if not for his physical issue.

Donald Trump hands?