Prediction Round 3, 2023: Changes vs Fremantle

[dajesmac]

Hewett unlucky no one from the middle or forwards did poorly enough to get dropped. He won’t sub two weeks in a row so goes back to the Wafl to get a full game.

Hough in for Chesser, who id prefer didnt sub due to the need for some experience at WAFL level too. Clark or West to sub.

 

[Animaluke]

Clark at 195cm (taller than waterman or rotham) and mature bodied would be interesting as the pinch hit ruckman supporting Williams. Waterman was good forward and I think it would be better if he could stay there. Clark also being a mid means we have more legs for this running game. Also gets him some CBAs of which we are all crying out to see how he would go if given that chance to play his natural game. Don't know who you drop for him though.

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[Keys]

Agree that Gaff is unlikely to be dropped (even though he should be), but it’s only Sunday night and we don’t really know who’s going to be available for selection.

Otherwise, nobody else seems concerned about it, but the footage of Duggan’s hit didn’t look great: the elbow was a bit higher than I would have liked. It’s possible he might end up having some explaining to do, because… concussion and law suits. But nobody else has let it spoil the party, so I won’t either.


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Wehr was subbed out with a shoulder injury. Nothing to do with concussion

He’ll be fine

 

[wooshwhisperer]

Dockers have 3 quick maneuverable small forwards, Walters, Shultz, Switowski, can't see Witherden sticking with any of them. Hough?
Gaff looks even more indecisive and one sided than ever, and every opposition knows it. Clarke?
Not sure about Chesser. West?
Hewitt is a live wire and should start.

 

[MeltMan]

I feel like i heard Withos name a lot with pressure acts, and the kick out down the guts that 1 time was chefs kiss
Happy to be wrong, and probably am, would cole lose his spot this week before witho?
Dear god i hope its gaff though. 1 kick i50 that looked good all game. everything else was a hack over the shoulder, derm even complimented him on being able to keep it near the boundry on his hack kicks -_-

 

[Quinz]

Hewett unlucky no one from the middle or forwards did poorly enough to get dropped. He won’t sub two weeks in a row so goes back to the Wafl to get a full game.

Hough in for Chesser, who id prefer didnt sub due to the need for some experience at WAFL level too. Clark or West to sub.

I think Chesser to WAFL, Hewett to his spot and give him a crack.

Really hope they aren't tempted to bring Jamo back because we're playing two rucks. BBBW with chop outs from Snake up forward and TB down back is fine.

I want Hough playing, I think he replaces Witho most weeks but he deserves his spot this time. Hough to sub and he can replace one of the youngens in the second half.

Culley still MIA? I'd love to see Gaff given a bit of a rocket with a WAFL drop but it's unlikely

 

[Astro7]

I feel like i heard Withos name a lot with pressure acts, and the kick out down the guts that 1 time was chefs kiss
Happy to be wrong, and probably am, would cole lose his spot this week before witho?
Dear god i hope its gaff though. 1 kick i50 that looked good all game. everything else was a hack over the shoulder, derm even complimented him on being able to keep it near the boundry on his hack kicks -_-

Couldn't believe my ears, he complimented Gaff for being so creative!? I thought he was taking the piss, but he was serious! That comment really exposed Derm for the pretentious or pompous commentator he can be...

 

[Free Agent]

I think it proves that today's game doesn't need two Rucks anymore.

When Nic Nat comes back Williams has to go. It's Nic Nat and Waterman as Forward/Ruck the way to go.

I hope Simmo doesn't drop SPS when Yeo and Culley come back because he was good and needed in a forward line.

It's an easy decision in that regard
Yeo for Gaff
Culley for Chesser

Chesser just needs to find some form and his two games so far haven't been that impressive. Young player finding his feet at AFL level. Now he needs to work on a few things in the WAFL.

 

[Free Agent]

Just seen the sides we play after Freo and it gets pretty brutal for us. Hopefully we get another win against Freo before we play a stretch of top 8 sides.

Melbourne
Geelong
Port
Carlton
Richmond

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

I am struggling to read so many wanting Yeo back in. He has played very little football in the last 30 months and has proven he takes time to build. If we are serious about earning your spot and not credits in the bank, then Yeo and probably NicNat come through WAFL.

Gov, Sheed, Chesser Cole and Allen all look rusty and needing time. The pressure of a derby will find your team out so adding to that pack is a danger.

I sense Barrass is not fully recovered from his arm injury as he has been off the pace for 2 weeks now.

Gaff I feel sorry for. The game has gone past him and playing him as an inside mid just shows up his inability to tackle and do anything right sided. I see Simmo hiding him on a half forward flank as we have better wing options. Gaff is going to test a load of posters in 2023 and being contracted until end 2024 will likely lead to an unpleasant end of Eagles career

 

[Free Agent]

I am struggling to read so many wanting Yeo back in. He has played very little football in the last 30 months and has proven he takes time to build. If we are serious about earning your spot and not credits in the bank, then Yeo and probably NicNat come through WAFL.

Gov, Sheed, Chesser Cole and Allen all look rusty and needing time. The pressure of a derby will find your team out so adding to that pack is a danger.

I sense Barrass is not fully recovered from his arm injury as he has been off the pace for 2 weeks now.

Gaff I feel sorry for. The game has gone past him and playing him as an inside mid just shows up his inability to tackle and do anything right sided. I see Simmo hiding him on a half forward flank as we have better wing options. Gaff is going to test a load of posters in 2023 and being contracted until end 2024 will likely lead to an unpleasant end of Eagles career

Yeah nah. The earning spot was thrown out the window when Gaff is still getting games while being down on form.

Be a bit hypocritical if we still play Gaff and let Yeo play WAFL until he earns his spot. Simmo needs to make a stand and just drop Gaff.

Then I could understand the earning your spot first which I agree with you that's how it should be. But right now it isn't.

 

[Obeanie1]

Yeah nah. The earning spot was thrown out the window when Gaff is still getting games while being down on form.

Be a bit hypocritical if we still play Gaff and let Yeo play WAFL until he earns his spot. Simmo needs to make a stand and just drop Gaff.

Then I could understand the earning your spot first which I agree with you that's how it should be. But right now it isn't.

Gaff earned his spot during preseason like everyone else.

Your first sentence refers to last year when we had an injury list longer than the Flemington straight.

Gaff seems over his injury issues from last season. Yeo certainly isnt and we should build him up cautiously.

So you are way off reality with this post.........as most rants are.

 

[Obeanie1]

I am struggling to read so many wanting Yeo back in. He has played very little football in the last 30 months and has proven he takes time to build. If we are serious about earning your spot and not credits in the bank, then Yeo and probably NicNat come through WAFL.

Gov, Sheed, Chesser Cole and Allen all look rusty and needing time. The pressure of a derby will find your team out so adding to that pack is a danger.

I sense Barrass is not fully recovered from his arm injury as he has been off the pace for 2 weeks now.

Gaff I feel sorry for. The game has gone past him and playing him as an inside mid just shows up his inability to tackle and do anything right sided. I see Simmo hiding him on a half forward flank as we have better wing options. Gaff is going to test a load of posters in 2023 and being contracted until end 2024 will likely lead to an unpleasant end of Eagles career

Yes, unfortunately the game has gone past Gaff. If you arent quick and cant tackle you better be elite at everything else.

 

[Free Agent]

Gaff earned his spot during preseason like everyone else.

Your first sentence refers to last year when we had an injury list longer than the Flemington straight.

Gaff seems over his injury issues from last season. Yeo certainly isnt and we should build him up cautiously.

So you are way off reality with this post.........as most rants are.

Gaff did not earn his spot.
You are way off.
His games in the pre season were exactly the same in what his doing now. Turn over after turn over and lacks any speed through the midfield. He shouldn't of been playing in round 1. Been a liability since pre season games.

 

[Cornelius Roy]

I feel like i heard Withos name a lot with pressure acts, and the kick out down the guts that 1 time was chefs kiss
Happy to be wrong, and probably am, would cole lose his spot this week before witho?
Dear god i hope its gaff though. 1 kick i50 that looked good all game. everything else was a hack over the shoulder, derm even complimented him on being able to keep it near the boundry on his hack kicks -_-

I don't disagree with you on Cole but I think he matches up pretty well on Switkowski this week so would give him that task.

 

[WCErevival]

I feel like i heard Withos name a lot with pressure acts, and the kick out down the guts that 1 time was chefs kiss
Happy to be wrong, and probably am, would cole lose his spot this week before witho?
Dear god i hope its gaff though. 1 kick i50 that looked good all game. everything else was a hack over the shoulder, derm even complimented him on being able to keep it near the boundry on his hack kicks -_-

Cole officially had more pressure acts than Witho so Cole wouldn't be dropped for lack of effort.

 

[RookiePick]

Yeah nah. The earning spot was thrown out the window when Gaff is still getting games while being down on form.

Be a bit hypocritical if we still play Gaff and let Yeo play WAFL until he earns his spot. Simmo needs to make a stand and just drop Gaff.

Then I could understand the earning your spot first which I agree with you that's how it should be. But right now it isn't.

We trimmed down Clark to play wing and he was running good numbers pre-season. I think he's the closest "ready-made" replacement if we need a winger who needs to attend a certain number of CBD for our rotation strategy. Played well in the WAFL warm up too if I remember the reports correctly.

A pity the MC ain't ever going to seee it that way. Clark might get a run in Chesser's spot though. Another seasoned body isn't going to hurt in a derby with the purples even more desperate than usual for a W. It will be hot in the kitchen.

 

[Obeanie1]

Gaff did not earn his spot.
You are way off.
His games in the pre season were exactly the same in what his doing now. Turn over after turn over and lacks any speed through the midfield. He shouldn't of been playing in round 1. Been a liability since pre season games.

Firstly you wouldn't know.

Secondly, who out performed Gaff preseason to take his place? Who has done enough to replace him?

 

[Free Agent]

Firstly you wouldn't know.

Secondly, who out performed Gaff preseason to take his place? Who has done enough to replace him?

Why wouldn't I know.
I watched the pre season games and he was poor then it's continued in the first 2 games of the season. That's 4 poor games for Gaff.

Could replace him easily now we have Culley and Yeo back. Also as someone mentioned Clark. There's three players we can replace him with. Hewitt could be given a full game instead of sub.
Make that 4 players.

The Gaff excuses are getting old real fast.

 

[bzparkes]

Why wouldn't I know.
I watched the pre season games and he was poor then it's continued in the first 2 games of the season. That's 4 poor games for Gaff.

Could replace him easily now we have Culley and Yeo back. Also as someone mentioned Clark. There's three players we can replace him with. Hewitt could be given a full game instead of sub.
Make that 4 players.

The Gaff excuses are getting old real fast.

Whilst I agree that Gaff either needs a rocket, or time int eh WAFL, Yeo isn't 'back', Culley is returning from injury, you don't want someone named on field who the coaches are concerned can't run out a game, because you're even more screwed if you actually need to activate the sub.

Would be happy to see Clark get a run instead but Gaff gets way more of the ball, so maybe the club prefers Gaff's running capacity.

 

[dajesmac]

I think Chesser to WAFL, Hewett to his spot and give him a crack.

Really hope they aren't tempted to bring Jamo back because we're playing two rucks. BBBW with chop outs from Snake up forward and TB down back is fine.

I want Hough playing, I think he replaces Witho most weeks but he deserves his spot this time. Hough to sub and he can replace one of the youngens in the second half.

Culley still MIA? I'd love to see Gaff given a bit of a rocket with a WAFL drop but it's unlikely

Hewett into the side would be great - my logic would be that Hough would be able to play the wing role better than EH avoiding a structural shake up

 

[shooshka]

I feel like i heard Withos name a lot with pressure acts, and the kick out down the guts that 1 time was chefs kiss
Happy to be wrong, and probably am, would cole lose his spot this week before witho?
Dear god i hope its gaff though. 1 kick i50 that looked good all game. everything else was a hack over the shoulder, derm even complimented him on being able to keep it near the boundry on his hack kicks -_-

It was funny to hear Derm say we have a lot of leg speed in the backline although JJ and Hunt certainly has improved what was a weakness.

Hence why Cole is so valuable, more of a lockdown type who has some pace (not elite, but fast enough).

Witherden, for all of his pressure acts an putting his body on the line, is just so slow in 3 key areas. Running, decision making, and kicking action (ball from hand to boot time). I think that will force him out of the side earlier rather than later, especially with Hough banging the door down and Hurn still playing.




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[RedWeddingGuest]

Wehr was subbed out with a shoulder injury. Nothing to do with concussion

He’ll be fine

Thanks for this. You mean Wehr will be fine? Or Duggan? I didn’t express myself well, unfortunately. I didn’t mean to suggest Wehr was concussed. My point was directed to the nature of the bump and its potential for a concussion injury (in the wider sense). If the elbow was raised, it’s an inherently dangerous action. The AFL (which is starting to get concerned about civil actions against it) might be minded to consider penalising the action, and not just the consequence. If the elbow wasn’t raised, then so be it. Am I wrong?


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[HoneyBadger35]

Thanks for this. You mean Wehr will be fine? Or Duggan? I didn’t express myself well, unfortunately. I didn’t mean to suggest Wehr was concussed. My point was directed to the nature of the bump and its potential for a concussion injury (in the wider sense). If the elbow was raised, it’s an inherently dangerous action. The AFL might be minded to consider penalising the action, and not just the consequence. If the elbow wasn’t raised, then so be it. Am I wrong?


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The AFL has dropped the ball on that so badly, they give no ****s about the action and almost exclusively adjudicate based on outcome. See: Pickett with one of the lowest acts in football last week getting two weeks while McAdam got three for a legitimate footy act gone wrong because a concussion test was done.

Perfectly legal bump, not a single GWS player remonstrated, shame the kid got hurt but there’s nothing head high or concussion related and there’s nothing the AFL can/will do about it. He’s in no trouble at all, and if he is it will tear the football world apart.

 

[Keys]

Thanks for this. You mean Wehr will be fine? Or Duggan? I didn’t express myself well, unfortunately. I didn’t mean to suggest Wehr was concussed. My point was directed to the nature of the bump and its potential for a concussion injury (in the wider sense). If the elbow was raised, it’s an inherently dangerous action. The AFL (which is starting to get concerned about civil actions against it) might be minded to consider penalising the action, and not just the consequence. If the elbow wasn’t raised, then so be it. Am I wrong?


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Ok. Understand where you’re coming from

I meant Duggan will be fine. Wehr whilst not concussed, unfortunately looks to have hurt his shoulder and likely to miss some playing time

As for the bump itself, Duggan’s elbow was tucked in at the point of contact and only came up after. If they’re going to suspend him on the potential for injury then the bump is truly dead

Unlike the macadam bump, Duggan didn’t have the option to tackle as Wehr hadn’t taken possession and he was contesting the space where the ball was dropping. Most importantly the contact wasn’t high which seems to be the main determinant in these situations- had he got Wehr above the shoulder he’d be in trouble