If we do end up bringing in one of West or Clark for Chesser, I hope it's West. I'm liking the speed that we've injected into the team lately, and I think West can contribute to that. Gaff, Sheed, and Clark all in the same team is heading toward serious plodder territory circa 2013.
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Agree with Gaff being left out but I can't see Yeo playing yet.
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O’Neill played well in the 2s… any chance for a recall?
Gaffs game wasn't too bad , gave a couple of goal assists and his dinky kicks to a dangerous fwd spot could have netted more , he linked up in handball chains and wasn't terrible at centre bounces . He even put his body under a high ball without shirking showing his courage . He didn't have a great game but it was far from shocking and many baggers on here remind me of someone I knew with dementia bagging someone just for the whatever reason dementia people single out 1 person . I think Gaff is building toward match fitness from an injury plagued last season and he is going to improve . Maybe an improvement to his AA standard may be a reach but I am more optimistic than pessimistic with him
This week he will get booed by freo fans , so it will be interesting to see how he handles this game . Plus he is under scrutiny here on social media and Cummins had him under the microscope last week .
He will get better and his best is pretty good.
This week he will get booed by freo fans , so it will be interesting to see how he handles this game . Plus he is under scrutiny here on social media and Cummins had him under the microscope last week .
He will get better and his best is pretty good.
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IMHO, people need to forget about Naitanui. The reality is he is 32 years old, soon to turn 33. Not many West Coast players have careers deep into their 30s, the travel is too hard on the body. But in Naitanui's case, it's compounded by his history of injuries and, to be honest, his weight. Even at his peak, he struggled to run out a full game.
If we were making a serious tilt at a premiership, you'd still plan around him. But given we are rebuilding and he is unlikely to be part of the next premiership window, I'm not sure the point. I'm more interested in hearing how Barnett is travelling.
If we were making a serious tilt at a premiership, you'd still plan around him. But given we are rebuilding and he is unlikely to be part of the next premiership window, I'm not sure the point. I'm more interested in hearing how Barnett is travelling.
It will be a shame to see Nic go when that day comes. One silver lining is that we saw on the weekend the benefits of being able to play a single ruck, which is something we’ve just never been able to do while Nic’s been in the team.
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Chesser
Thinking Freo won't try and move the ball fast this week.
- Gov and Barrass to play contested lock down footy.
- Hough
- Purple discrimination
- Freo's ongoing battle to prove Longmuir is a real boy and they are not just guilty of anthropomorphism.
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Chesser
Thinking Freo won't try and move the ball fast this week.
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Melbourne did pretty well in their premiership year with two rucks.
As always, it depends on the level of talent of those two rucks and your game plan making use of it. Not every side can be Richmond.
Don't think freo will be out for blood, will be more focused on a win that they need very badly.
Got no problem with Hewy as sub again.
Gaff does this every time he goes out to play. His courage can't be questioned.
Yes he is getting undue hate around here but the fact is his best is a fair way behind him and I'm not sure it stacks up in todays game anyway. Two things kill him and wont improve which is speed and inability to use his right boot/hand. That wont change and I think the game has passed him by. That said, Im not sure there is someone currently available who would replace him and improve the side.
Hough?
I watched the replay yesterday and it confirmed what I thought at the game, he wasn't too bad, just that 15 minutes in the 3rd qtr where 3 times he ran around in a circle to unleash a 15m kick on his left. He actually kicked on his right earlier in the game and it was ok. Don't know why he lacks the confidence to use it. In every instance in that period we would have been better off he hack kicked on his right or handballed off.
But at this stage he is still better than Chesser, Clark etc.
I think it's only one thing killing him and that's the accuracy of his kicking. He had 2 or 3 inside 50s toward a forward leading at him who had separation, yet he kicked over their head. If he tidies that up, then he would become a serviceable member of the team.
Elite Gaff was the guy who ran back and took a mark in defence, then bobbed up 20 seconds later at half forward and kicked a bullet to a leading forward. He's doing the defence part, he just needs to get the inside 50s right.
Yes but Chesser is the first out to be replaced by Hough. As frustrating as Gaff is with pace and delivery, he still provides more than Chesser at this early stage of his development. I hope that will change by the back end of the season but it isnt the case this week.
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What about his inability to chase, stick a tackle, break a tackle, or kick a score from a 40m set shot? I agree he used to play his role well, but that's well in the past, is it still enough to keep his spot in 2023?
Missing the Liam Ryan lead in the first quarter, when the entire field opened up in front of Gaff with no pressure, was as bad a decision as you’ll see from a player of his seniority.
Redeemed himself somewhat in the last quarter when he lowered his eyes to spot up a leading Waterman but I still think Gaff’s spot in the 22 is on shaky ground.
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It's a catch 22 isn't it.
We go West he brings speed but on the other side of that West is pretty small for inside game.
Likewise Gaff and Sheed are pretty small for the inside stuff. Probally works against Freo who aren't very contested beast.
Against a side like Geelong having Gaff Sheed West we would get toss and ragdolled like there is no tomorrow when it comes to inside contested ball.
It's a tough one with Gaff, he could be running into form, not enough games to tell. But I also rewatched the game and those great highlight vids by Alesana, and Gaff wasn't all bad - he floated a deft kick from the boundary into the goal arc pack, snatched by Ryan. He broke out of the centre bounce and launched a rocket into the forward zone. Watching that vid I'd say his positives outweighed his negatives and he's worth the punt that he's playing into form -also has a lot of experience against Freo. (and yes, I've criticised him)
I give up on the Yeo mystery train, it happens when it happens?
Now Culley is a disappointment if a continued out, but he might be a surprise 'in' for the Derby?
Otherwise I'd stick with what we had last week. Stick with Jake, they've got 2 good rucks, we won't beat 'em straight up anyway, work around it.
I'd stick with Chesser, is the Wafl even on yet? Otherwise it's West for mine.(pace+mongrel)
Want to see more of Hewett - he looks like an idling V8 waiting for the accelerator to be tramped?
Rotate him for more game time in bursts?
Freo's backs are against the wall, a MUST win for them - so every player out there must be a contributor at the coalface, no passengers!
EDIT: Culley won't play Derby.
EDIT: Now Yeo might be a surprise in for the derby?
Ducks n' Drakes...
I give up on the Yeo mystery train, it happens when it happens?
Now Culley is a disappointment if a continued out, but he might be a surprise 'in' for the Derby?
Otherwise I'd stick with what we had last week. Stick with Jake, they've got 2 good rucks, we won't beat 'em straight up anyway, work around it.
I'd stick with Chesser, is the Wafl even on yet? Otherwise it's West for mine.(pace+mongrel)
Want to see more of Hewett - he looks like an idling V8 waiting for the accelerator to be tramped?
Rotate him for more game time in bursts?
Freo's backs are against the wall, a MUST win for them - so every player out there must be a contributor at the coalface, no passengers!
EDIT: Culley won't play Derby.
EDIT: Now Yeo might be a surprise in for the derby?
Ducks n' Drakes...
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Out: Chesser (to sub), Hewett (from sub)
In: West
B: Hurn, Barrass, Witherden
HB: Duggan, McGovern, Jones
C: Gaff, Kelly, Hunt
HF: Cripps, Darling, SPS
F: Ryan, Allen, Waterman
R: Williams, Shuey, Sheed
I: Cole, West, Ginbey, Long
S: Chesser
E: O’Neill (held out of WAFL), Edwards, Clark
Didn’t think I’d be naming Witherden in a starting 18 this year, but there you go.
West replaces Chesser in the 22 with Gaff moving to the wing where he belongs and West taking Gaff’s CBAs.
Shuey to take some rotations in the backline and Cole to push up to a wing.
Williams and Waterman to ruck, we’ll probably win about 20% of the hitouts but at least our mids will be expecting Freo’s rucks to win the tap and set up accordingly.
In: West
B: Hurn, Barrass, Witherden
HB: Duggan, McGovern, Jones
C: Gaff, Kelly, Hunt
HF: Cripps, Darling, SPS
F: Ryan, Allen, Waterman
R: Williams, Shuey, Sheed
I: Cole, West, Ginbey, Long
S: Chesser
E: O’Neill (held out of WAFL), Edwards, Clark
Didn’t think I’d be naming Witherden in a starting 18 this year, but there you go.
West replaces Chesser in the 22 with Gaff moving to the wing where he belongs and West taking Gaff’s CBAs.
Shuey to take some rotations in the backline and Cole to push up to a wing.
Williams and Waterman to ruck, we’ll probably win about 20% of the hitouts but at least our mids will be expecting Freo’s rucks to win the tap and set up accordingly.
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I’d swap hewett and Chesser around and bring in Brady Hough for someone
Out for blood = going hard taking no prisoners because they have backs against the wall.
Freo go 0 - 3 finals are almost shot.
So I expect a fired up, hard at it Freo on Sunday. More pressure than a normal derby.
So playing two kids who obviously aren't ready doesn't sound terribly smart to me.
