AFL Autopsy Round 4 vs Sydney and City Hall

[bomberlegend2007]

It's not HTB when you take the ball out of the ruck, correct call.

 

[ScrappyCoCo]

Sydney screaming today and want more money off the AFL as real estate up there is too expensive. It goes up more than here when they sell....maybe we should be asking for handouts. Just a bit peed off I am.

 

[DallasCrane316]

It's not HTB when you take the ball out of the ruck, correct call.

It is when you take it out of the ruck, run with it, get tackled and drop the ball....

 

[Kyptastic]

Umpire 32 paid 16 free kicks to Sydney and 1 to Essendon (allegedly)

 

[Howard Moon]

McGrath was sat on all night, it's his turn to deal with tags now. Learnings..

Tippa had his worst game in years, fumbly, indecisive, very unlike him

 

[maskmcgee]

It's not HTB when you take the ball out of the ruck, correct call.

So if he recived a handball and the exact same thing happened, that'd not be a free kick either?

 

[bomberlegend2007]

it is when you get it run 5 metres and get tackled

New tactic. Get the ball out of the ruck and run around the ground. Can’t be holding the ball if you take it out of the ruck.

 

[Inspecta Gadget]

Colour me surprised, we lose a tight one in Sydney after being reamed by the umps for 4 quarters

 

[Halftimehero]

Taking the ball from the ruck hasn't been HTB for 10 years - it was decided it was no prior - so no call was the correct call

Surely once you start running with the ball that cancels out the taking it out of the ruck and it becomes prior opportunity?

 

[jmoo wan]

It's not HTB when you take the ball out of the ruck, correct call.

when you grab the ball and prance away like an andalusian, and then get tackled - it is a free.

 

[Albertross]

Well, at least we had a decent crack. Not going to contend this year, so as long as we have a go and blood the future, I will be happy.

Sort of, 29-16 frees, **** me. Particularly the 3 or 4 deliberate that were paid. Still, plenty to take away from this game even though I thought we were down a few players.

Langford??? Seems down this year compared to last. Least productive player based on expectations so far. Margaret??? Let him have a run and prove himself i suppose, need to find out now if he is part of the future.

I love Cox!!! (My kids have been saying that for years, although I think it had a different meaning ) Also Waterman. Good to pick up a big bodied mature player like that. Hopefully Perkins and Jones developed into the players we want, glimpses are there.

No Draper hurts. 2LP is not the answer, and then a young Cox get thrown into it when he is more valuable elsewhere. Hopefully Hep shows some better form with a few more games under his belt. Tippa, keep your ****ing feet FFS.

Oh well, disappointed and gutted, but, at least they didn't blow us away, even with the extra help they got.

This year may not be so bad after all, considering 2 weeks ago we thought we wouldn't be competitive and would only beat Norf.

Go Bombers!!!

 

[ghostdog]

Never thought the umpiring would be worse than the ANZAC Day game from a few years ago, but here we are.

Was thinking the same thing. That was the only other game I could recall where I was actually angry at the end.

 

[Duckworth]

Umpire 32 paid 16 free kicks to Sydney and 1 to Essendon (allegedly)

 

[coastalpipeline]

Umpire 32 paid 16 free kicks to Sydney and 1 to Essendon (allegedly)

Is he the ump with the flog hairdo?

 

[Shane Heard]

Disgusting umpiring

 

[The Airing of Grievances]

Surely if you run off with the ball after taking it you’ve had prior.

It used to be that if you took possession out of the ruck and were tackled immediately that would be deemed ‘holding the ball’. That is no longer the case ( which is fair enough). But running off with it and then getting tackled should be holding the ball every time.

Yes, this analysis is correct. But commentators have trouble with understanding this. Just because you're not automatically HTB if you grab it in the ruck and are tackled, doesn't mean you cant be penalised if you grab it and then make no attempt when tackles.

 

[59Stanley]

Sorry for jumping in but that was the worst umpiring I’ve seen since last week when Sydney got 26-15 v us at our home ground. Seriously guys that was horrific umpiring on many levels. That Papley free kick Jesus !

 

[quotemokc]

It's not HTB when you take the ball out of the ruck, correct call.

Did you see how far Hickey ran with the ball?

 

[Nicholas61]

AFL hq you are destroying the game. Remember where your bread and butter is.

I preferred watching the NT league on the weekend with obvious decisions paid and fairness to both competitors compared to your rigged garbage of the interstate teams constantly getting the 50/50s their way as well as all the other concessions you give them - sadly it all looks phoney.

 

[The Airing of Grievances]

Is he the ump with the flog hairdo?

No that's the Sydney player No 27.

 

[citizen-erased]

Surely once you start running with the ball that cancels out the taking it out of the ruck and it becomes prior opportunity?

it's no longer a ruck contest at that point.
4 steps. stopped, wore the tackle. that is the very definition of holding the ball.

Cats robbed lions at GMHBA. We get robbed at the SCG.
AFL has a home ground/umpire issue.
go back a few years there was a game where West Coast had more frees than points on the board at half time.

 

[Albertross]

Swans playing to a different set of rules this year.

Not really. Situation normal as far as I can tell.

 

[Jade]

fu** the umps. We deserved to win.

Next.

Herein lies the problem.

You KNOW that the umpiring was shocking, and you KNOW nothing will be done about it.

 

[Beerfish]

Jonathon Brown gave Francis points for the match-up. Everyone else is too busy with the circle jerk..

Wow. He must really hate Sydney because he can't ****ing stand us.

Langford??? Seems down this year compared to last.

No. SCG is just too small for him. He likes a couple of seconds think music before he disposes. Won't get that on a small ground.

 

[Macca18]

We knew from Day 1 this would be a difficult season and we are zero chance of contending.

The umpires were abysmal and arguably cost us the game here, but... would we rather be losing games (when not contending) like we did tonight or capitulating and losing by 10-12 goals most weeks?

Enormously proud of the competitive effort on the big stage when the whole football world was watching. Many thought it was a waste of time flying up there as we were no chance and we still could’ve won it!

Still on track for 5 wins this year and another very good look at a very strong draft. Don’t be surprised if one of those 5 wins comes at Marvel later in the year against these same campaigners. The bottom will fall out of them sooner rather than later.

Keep up this great style of football we’ve seen for 11 of the 16 quarters we’ve played this year. We know 2021 isn’t going to be our year but when we see the likes of Cox, Archie, Ridley etc out there tonight (with plenty of young talent to come), it’s going to make the wait worth it.