Discussion Round 7, 2024 (Anzac Round): Photos and Discussion

[jcmelb]

on show...

 

[MooreTreloar]

I probably say this every year but I really dislike Essendon’s ANZAC Day jumpers. I hate that they use the poppy for the design. It just doesn’t sit right with me.

 

[pattymalone00]

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[Mr Eagle]

When did the poppy become a symbol of ANZAC? I know it is quite accepted in NZ, but for me it was always more associated with Remembrance Day.

 

[Andy_B]

At least it has gold sholders

 

[Nickimus Rex]

When did the poppy become a symbol of ANZAC? I know it is quite accepted in NZ, but for me it was always more associated with Remembrance Day.

You are right - it is more of a symbol of Remembrance Day, but it has been used as a symbol across the Commonwealth for those lost in conflicts, etc.

 

[Haymo_of_thor]

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I'm about to have a rant here, call me out if I'm wrong but I don't see the point of an Anzac 'week' jumper, I think they are tacky and often disingenuous. Over the last few years, the idea of an ANZAC day jumper has run through the AFL with Collingwood, Essendon, Geelong, Gold Coast, Hawthorn, Melbourne, Port Adelaide, and Richmond. Sometimes the designs are done with the right idea in mind, and can be a classy way to pay respects to those who served, the best examples of this imo are Geelong 2023, Richmond 2022, and Collingwood in 2019. These designs are either simple changes like Geelong, a small symbolic change ie Richmond, or the jumper that the club wore during WW1.



While sometimes they can look good quite often the jumpers seem to me to be quite insensitive, and just another excuse to pay $125 for another footy jumper, which ANZAC day isn't for. What comes to mind for bad jumpers are the Essendon 2022 (bullet holes jumper), Hawthorn 2023, and Gold Coast 2023. Most of these designs have been given to much artistic freedom for a jumper that is supposed to honour the men that died in WW1, Gold Coast as a club and essentially as a town did not exist in 1914, so other than another $125 jumper why is it necessary?



Time and time again ANZAC jumpers are both a 'front office' pat on the back as well as a corporate cash grab, the NRL also has a problem with this because the Wests Tigers original ANZAC jersey in 2023 had an American soldier, which was the first image when you search soldier on Getty images. I think that an ANZAC jumper needs to pay respects by either subtle symbolism (rosemary, wattle, poppies) or by wearing the same jumper design that the club wore during the First World War. This may seem elitist against the expansion clubs but other than the ANZAC appeal badge only the 9 Victorian teams, Brisbane, and Port Adelaide should have any reason to wear a special jumper. The AFL and it's clubs seem to be buying into an American style of over commercialisation of our most important holiday "Lest We Forget.... NOW WATCH SOME FOOTY, buy a jumper, drink a West End and Bet with Mates (gamble responsibliy)!"

As I said before, thanks for reading my rant, if you disagree I'd love to have a discussion about it.

 

[Sentinel]

I'm about to have a rant here, call me out if I'm wrong but I don't see the point of an Anzac 'week' jumper, I think they are tacky and often disingenuous. Over the last few years, the idea of an ANZAC day jumper has run through the AFL with Collingwood, Essendon, Geelong, Gold Coast, Hawthorn, Melbourne, Port Adelaide, and Richmond. Sometimes the designs are done with the right idea in mind, and can be a classy way to pay respects to those who served, the best examples of this imo are Geelong 2023, Richmond 2022, and Collingwood in 2019. These designs are either simple changes like Geelong, a small symbolic change ie Richmond, or the jumper that the club wore during WW1.

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While sometimes they can look good quite often the jumpers seem to me to be quite insensitive, and just another excuse to pay $125 for another footy jumper, which ANZAC day isn't for. What comes to mind for bad jumpers are the Essendon 2022 (bullet holes jumper), Hawthorn 2023, and Gold Coast 2023. Most of these designs have been given to much artistic freedom for a jumper that is supposed to honour the men that died in WW1, Gold Coast as a club and essentially as a town did not exist in 1914, so other than another $125 jumper why is it necessary?

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Time and time again ANZAC jumpers are both a 'front office' pat on the back as well as a corporate cash grab, the NRL also has a problem with this because the Wests Tigers original ANZAC jersey in 2023 had an American soldier, which was the first image when you search soldier on Getty images. I think that an ANZAC jumper needs to pay respects by either subtle symbolism (rosemary, wattle, poppies) or by wearing the same jumper design that the club wore during the First World War. This may seem elitist against the expansion clubs but other than the ANZAC appeal badge only the 9 Victorian teams, Brisbane, and Port Adelaide should have any reason to wear a special jumper. The AFL and it's clubs seem to be buying into an American style of over commercialisation of our most important holiday "Lest We Forget.... NOW WATCH SOME FOOTY, buy a jumper, drink a West End and Bet with Mates (gamble responsibliy)!"

As I said before, thanks for reading my rant, if you disagree I'd love to have a discussion about it.

Off the Hawthorn jumper's page: "As part of this program and in continued support of The Returned and Services League, a percentage of sales from ANZAC products will be donated to the RSL's 2024 ANZAC Appeal."

Why can't they say what percentage? How much does the club make on these jumpers relative to what they donate? Zero transparency.

The Essendon page doesn't even mention a donation to the ANZAC Appeal.

It's all so tacky and gross.

 

[acm21]

I'm about to have a rant here, call me out if I'm wrong but I don't see the point of an Anzac 'week' jumper, I think they are tacky and often disingenuous. Over the last few years, the idea of an ANZAC day jumper has run through the AFL with Collingwood, Essendon, Geelong, Gold Coast, Hawthorn, Melbourne, Port Adelaide, and Richmond. Sometimes the designs are done with the right idea in mind, and can be a classy way to pay respects to those who served, the best examples of this imo are Geelong 2023, Richmond 2022, and Collingwood in 2019. These designs are either simple changes like Geelong, a small symbolic change ie Richmond, or the jumper that the club wore during WW1.

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While sometimes they can look good quite often the jumpers seem to me to be quite insensitive, and just another excuse to pay $125 for another footy jumper, which ANZAC day isn't for. What comes to mind for bad jumpers are the Essendon 2022 (bullet holes jumper), Hawthorn 2023, and Gold Coast 2023. Most of these designs have been given to much artistic freedom for a jumper that is supposed to honour the men that died in WW1, Gold Coast as a club and essentially as a town did not exist in 1914, so other than another $125 jumper why is it necessary?

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Time and time again ANZAC jumpers are both a 'front office' pat on the back as well as a corporate cash grab, the NRL also has a problem with this because the Wests Tigers original ANZAC jersey in 2023 had an American soldier, which was the first image when you search soldier on Getty images. I think that an ANZAC jumper needs to pay respects by either subtle symbolism (rosemary, wattle, poppies) or by wearing the same jumper design that the club wore during the First World War. This may seem elitist against the expansion clubs but other than the ANZAC appeal badge only the 9 Victorian teams, Brisbane, and Port Adelaide should have any reason to wear a special jumper. The AFL and it's clubs seem to be buying into an American style of over commercialisation of our most important holiday "Lest We Forget.... NOW WATCH SOME FOOTY, buy a jumper, drink a West End and Bet with Mates (gamble responsibliy)!"

As I said before, thanks for reading my rant, if you disagree I'd love to have a discussion about it.

I find the designs in general aren't often thought about enough. If you have an Anzac kit then it's best to have a nice design that pays respect, including old designs and symbolism.
Essendon have used the same principle design for atleats 10 years now. So for me if you are going to have a kit, you shouldn't consistently use the same design. Unfortunately we have had a lot of years with war, which means there is a lot of symbolism and designs that can be used, which a lot of teams don't use.

The 2022 Essendon kit was built with a lot of symbolism based on a long serving player and administrator and the ability to change the black and have a distinct focus imo makes it a nice kit for its purpose.

 

[jcmelb]

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Is six logos on the front of an AFL jumper a record?

 

[Fizzler]

Is six logos on the front of an AFL jumper a record?

ISC being on the jock tag would make it 7 individual logos as well (I’m not counting the jock tag doubling up on the AFL and Hawks logo). It’d have to be a record surely.

 

[Sentinel]

ISC being on the jock tag would make it 7 individual logos as well (I’m not counting the jock tag doubling up on the AFL and Hawks logo). It’d have to be a record surely.

The poppy isn't a logo.

 

[Boyohboywowwee]

The poppy isn't a logo.

If it would that means Essendon takes out the record

 

[acm21]

If it would that means Essendon takes out the record

Essendon is a design feature, Hawks imo is more of a logo like the ones used in England on soccer kits

 

[jcmelb]

If it's not a logo its certainly an icon, a custom designed image used to represent something. Also not something that usually is on a jumper every week.

 

[Mozzie_Squad]

 

[Nickimus Rex]

Is it me or does Jake Lever look like someone has just eaten his last remaining yoghurt?

Also this

 

[BigChippa52]

Is it me or does Jake Lever look like someone has just eaten his last remaining yoghurt?

Also this

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clarry looks like he tried to let out a fart but he sharted instead and can't do anything about it

 

[pattymalone00]

Richmond 2024 Authentic Mens Anzac Guernsey

- Richmond On Field 2024 Mens Anzac Guernsey- Slim fit- Sublimated AFL, Club, PUMA & Sponsor Logo- "Lest we forget" printed on the neckline- “Ode for the fallen” on the front of the guernsey- List of Richmond players and officials that died at war on the reverse- 100% Polyester Interlock-...

www.theaflstore.com.au

also side note I see the Tigers shop has switched to fanatics aswell, I wonder if most afl clubs and the afl online store are slowly switching to it

 

[Swooping_Magpie]

haven’t seen it posted here, collingwood’s anzac day jumper has officially released

 

[TY24]

Not sure if it’s been mentioned here already, but in the pre game line ups at Optus Stadium you could see Darling was wearing an Eagles jumper with the ANZAC Appeal logo and what looked like some poppies in the left wing.

 

[Storm20]

Expect to see a very interesting Adelaide ANZAC guernsey released shortly

 

[Mr Eagle]

Expect to see a very interesting Adelaide ANZAC guernsey released shortly

Teal?

 

[Supercheapgiants]

 

[Fizzler]

Looks to be a pretty simple and tasteful design so far with just the light camo effect and usual logos on the normal home jumper. Whether it’ll be scattered with extra logos and detailing remains to be seen but I figure they might have shown that off if that was the case. Let’s wait and see though…