Round 9 tips and crowds?

[TheKanga]

I haven't watched much of Adelaide this year, but i would be very surprised if we lose this one.
Season over if we do.

They don't have Walker which really hurts their structures.

 

[BUTTON 92]

We beat you comfortably last year in the same game when you had Walker and Tippet. You are a worse team now, and we are better.

It's only logical.

You do realise that's not how it always works? We were a kick off a prelim last year and you were lucky to be in the 8.

 

[TheKanga]

We weren't really lucky to be in the top 8.
IIRC we were 2 wins clear of the teams in 9th and 10th.

 

[BUTTON 92]

We weren't really lucky to be in the top 8.
IIRC we were 2 wins clear of the teams in 9th and 10th.

I mean as in deserving of being there considering you lost the first final by 96 points.
But by the same logic earlier Richmond should beat Hawthorn easily considering they belted them last year.
But everyone most people know thats not how it works.

 

[Howard Littlejohn]

No offense but if we can't win comfortably this week we should be kicked out of the league.
I look at Adelaide's list and I just can't see where the goals will come from, without any key forwards of note, and against a good defense led by a starring Thompson.
Although I realise you've kicked a few goals in recent weeks against St. Kilda and GWS, but they were gimmes.

Now watch us lose horribly.

Oh, god, just wait for Essendon, Hawthorn and West Coast people on BF to start calling for this if North "only" win by 5 or 6 goals. Or worse still, in the unlikely circumstance our boys don't win at all.

 

[theyellowsash]

Surprised so many are picking us. We are in marginally better form atm but unlike essendon i dont think we have played to our potential for more than a half in any game this year while they have hit their peak more often.

 

[The full package]

Collingwood vs. Sydney 3pts 53k
Port Adelaide vs. Geelong 17pts 23k
GWS vs. West Coast 44pts 12k
St Kilda vs. Western Bulldogs 13pts 31k
Brisbane vs. Carlton 5pts 14k
Richmond vs. Essendon 37pts 78k
Hawthorn vs. Gold Coast 28pts 35k
North Melbourne vs. Adelaide 38pts 32k
Fremantle vs. Melbourne 35pts 31k

 

[Bob Neil]

Now someone is just being stupid - 43k to a Roos game against a non-Victorian side. There will nearly be more Adelaide fans than Roos fans to this game.

What odds you giving for Roos to win by 107?

He was just missing the decimal point - 4.3K crowd.

 

[Sketi]

Collingwood vs. Sydney - by 20pts (62k) Sydney not going well with their defensive gameplan this year, must have been worked out

Or could have something to do with injuries to 3 premiership defenders...

 

[Bob Neil]

No offense but if we can't win comfortably this week we should be kicked out of the league.
I look at Adelaide's list and I just can't see where the goals will come from, without any key forwards of note, and against a good defense led by a starring Thompson.
Although I realise you've kicked a few goals in recent weeks against St. Kilda and GWS, but they were gimmes.

Now watch us lose horribly.

It's a fair question but I could see us kicking ~15 goals to win (esp at ES) with Jenkins, Lynch and Dangerfield kicking multiple goals and then a spread of others who are on average good for a goal a game (Vince, Porplyzia, Douglas, Kerridge). Think Goldstein v Jacobs is critical and whilst it may not be a great round I think this is a massive match.

 

[the big lebowski]

I mean as in deserving of being there considering you lost the first final by 96 points.
But by the same logic earlier Richmond should beat Hawthorn easily considering they belted them last year.
But everyone most people know thats not how it works.

I simply highlighted that after beating you last year in the same game, you have gone backwards, and we have improved. Simple logic would suggest we should win this game.

 

[Moist Biscuit]

We beat you comfortably last year in the same game when you had Walker and Tippet. You are a worse team now, and we are better.

It's only logical.

Adelaides midfield s**** all over Norths though, Danger could quite easily bob up and kick 4 or 5 with the combination of Jenkins, Lynch, Douglas and Vince all bobbing up with a couple of goals a piece aswell, real danger game for Norf...

 

[stormee]

Fremantle vs. Melbourne 35pts 31k

LOLWOT.

 

[the big lebowski]

Adelaides midfield s**** all over Norths though,...

Using facts, please back up that statement.

Danger could quite easily bob up and kick 4 or 5...

He's only kicked 4 in a game this year. And i'd say he's only kicked 6 once or twice in his career. So the term "easily" is probably a bit much.

real danger game for Norf...

On that we can agree. Not picking up any of Pies, Cats, Swans, Hawks or Eagles means we can't afford to drop any games for the rest of the year where we are favourites if we want to make finals. Tough ask.

 

[BUTTON 92]

Using facts, please back up that statement.



He's only kicked 4 in a game this year. And i'd say he's only kicked 6 once or twice in his career. So the term "easily" is probably a bit much.



On that we can agree. Not picking up any of Pies, Cats, Swans, Hawks or Eagles means we can't afford to drop any games for the rest of the year where we are favourites if we want to make finals. Tough ask.

Well Danger and Thompson are both better then any mid North has and I think most would agree. Sloane arguably as well altough him and Swallow are at a similar level. Then its its the likes of Wells, Cunnington, Bastinac and Ziebell against Van Berlo, Douglas, Vince etc.

 

[coryne]

There seems to be A LOT of support here for Brisbane over Carlton. People should be jumping on the $2.75 offered by sportsbet for a Brisbane win !!!!

 

[Moist Biscuit]

On that we can agree. Not picking up any of Pies, Cats, Swans, Hawks or Eagles means we can't afford to drop any games for the rest of the year where we are favourites if we want to make finals. Tough ask.[/quote]


Ziebell and Sloane are quite similar, but compare the goals between danger and swallow and then compare the difference in disposals between Wells and Thompson. Adelaides midfield> Norths midfield

 

[Richo83]

Well Danger and Thompson are both better then any mid North has and I think most would agree.

Nah.

Maybe Dangerfield, but not Thompson. He plays a very similar role to Swallow who is underrated by most on bigfooty. Furthermore, a midfield is not comprised of two players. Cunnington is starting to become a really good inside midfielder, he averages something like seven clearances a game. That's crazy numbers for a kid his age. He's starting to become one of the best players from that draft.

Sloane arguably as well altough him and Swallow are at a similar level. Then its its the likes of Wells, Cunnington, Bastinac and Ziebell against Van Berlo, Douglas, Vince etc.

You're comparing Swallow, Wells, Cunnington, Ziebell, Bastinac to Dangerfield, Thompson, Sloane Van Berlo, Douglas, Vince, I honestly don't see that much difference to be honest, especially in Victoria. I also think that North has Harvey, who as an outside player is better than any of Adelaide's outside players. If Harvey gets his usual 25 touches, and a goal, expect Adelaide to lose. I think Adelaide's midfield is a tad overrated. Beyond Dangerfield and Thompson, it falls away in quality to an extent, and if you manage to put a good tagger on Dangerfield, they can struggle.

I also like North's forwards better than Adelaide's.

That said, a few North fans have been a bit stupid in assuming this is a solid win for North, they should start favourites though. North like playing at the docklands as well, where their quick game style works really well. I'm going to tip North by about 22 with a fair degree of certainty.

 

[Richo83]

On that we can agree. Not picking up any of Pies, Cats, Swans, Hawks or Eagles means we can't afford to drop any games for the rest of the year where we are favourites if we want to make finals. Tough ask.

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Ziebell and Sloane are quite similar, but compare the goals between danger and swallow and then compare the difference in disposals between Wells and Thompson. Adelaides midfield> Norths midfield[/quote]

You're not comparing like for like, you should be comparing Swallow to Thompson.

 

[the big lebowski]

Nah.

Maybe Dangerfield, but not Thompson. He plays a very similar role to Swallow who is underrated by most on bigfooty. Furthermore, a midfield is not comprised of two players. Cunnington is starting to become a really good inside midfielder, he averages something like seven clearances a game. That's crazy numbers for a kid his age. He's starting to become one of the best players from that draft.



You're comparing Swallow, Wells, Cunnington, Ziebell, Bastinac to Dangerfield, Thompson, Sloane Van Berlo, Douglas, Vince, I honestly don't see that much difference to be honest, especially in Victoria. I also think that North has Harvey, who as an outside player is better than any of Adelaide's outside players. If Harvey gets his usual 25 touches, and a goal, expect Adelaide to lose. I think Adelaide's midfield is a tad overrated. Beyond Dangerfield and Thompson, it falls away in quality to an extent, and if you manage to put a good tagger on Dangerfield, they can struggle.

I also like North's forwards better than Adelaide's.

That said, a few North fans have been a bit stupid in assuming this is a solid win for North, they should start favourites though. North like playing at the docklands as well, where their quick game style works really well. I'm going to tip North by about 22 with a fair degree of certainty.

What this guy said. That stat comparison was cherry picking at its finest.

I'd also argue some of the Crows stats may have been boosted by playing GWS, a privilege we are yet to encounter.

 

[BUTTON 92]

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Ziebell and Sloane are quite similar, but compare the goals between danger and swallow and then compare the difference in disposals between Wells and Thompson. Adelaides midfield> Norths midfield

You're not comparing like for like, you should be comparing Swallow to Thompson.[/quote]

What this guy said. That stat comparison was cherry picking at its finest.

I'd also argue some of the Crows stats may have been boosted by playing GWS, a privilege we are yet to encounter.

Danger > Swallow
Thompson > Wells
Sloane > Ziebell

 

[Moist Biscuit]

You're not comparing like for like, you should be comparing Swallow to Thompson.

Danger > Swallow
Thompson > Wells
Sloane > Ziebell[/quote]
Or
Thompson > Swallow
Sloane > Ziebell
Dangerfield > Wells

 

[Richo83]

Thompson > Swallow

How so? This year, Swallow averages more clearances, contested possessions, tackles, and has a better DE% than Thompson, and all against tougher opposition.

 

[Stewies Power]

Collingwood v Sydney by 28 @ MCG (58k)
Port Adelaide v Geelong by 31 @ AAMI (24k)
Greater Western Sydney v West Coast by 81 @ Skoda (7k)
St Kilda v Western Bulldogs by 25 @ Etihad (25k)
Brisbane v Carlton by 16 @ Gabba (26k)
Richmond v Essendon by 10 @ MCG (82k)
Hawthorn v Gold Coast by 55 @ MCG (28k)
North Melbourne v Adelaide by 27 @ Etihad (26k)
Fremantle v Melbourne by 80 @ Subi (34k)

 

[BUTTON 92]

How so? This year, Swallow averages more clearances, contested possessions, tackles, and has a better DE% than Thompson, and all against tougher opposition.

You dont just look at the last 8 games. Otherwise Lindsay Thomas > Buddy Franklin by that logic.