Russell Brand faces allegations of rape, sexual assaults & abuse

[Kurve]

MET POLICE CRIMES - London
JIMMY SAVILE

 

[jason_recliner]

Good article here on the tabloids and lad culture in the 90's and beyond.

"The nasty noughties: Russell Brand and the era of sadistic tabloid misogyny
At the turn of the century, the tabloid press was untouchable – and women in the public eye faced ceaseless persecution. We are still grappling with the fallout today."

Murdoch is the misogynist enabler my friend.

The nasty noughties: Russell Brand and the era of sadistic tabloid misogyny

At the turn of the century, the tabloid press was untouchable – and women in the public eye faced ceaseless persecution. We are still grappling with the fallout today

www.theguardian.com

It's an okay article IMO, vaguely interesting. Heavily biased and skewed for the guardian target audience (i.e. tabloids persecuted women, not men). Doesn't change the fact that all the English MSM is part of that unfunny-but-perceived-as funny-because-we're-laughing-at-each-other's-banter luvvy culture, all support that weird British fascination with ugly posh nonces with bad teeth, not just Murdoch.

Doesn't change the likelihood that if Murdoch journos knew, then Guardian journos knew - I believe plenty of people in the MSM knew, look at the stories about groups of women warning each other about him.

 

[Aristotle Pickett]

It's an okay article IMO, vaguely interesting. Heavily biased and skewed for the guardian target audience (i.e. tabloids persecuted women, not men). Doesn't change the fact that all the English MSM is part of that unfunny-but-perceived-as funny-because-we're-laughing-at-each-other's-banter luvvy culture, all support that weird British fascination with ugly posh nonces with bad teeth, not just Murdoch.

Doesn't change the likelihood that if Murdoch journos knew, then Guardian journos knew - I believe plenty of people in the MSM knew, look at the stories about groups of women warning each other about him.

I don't think the Guardian protects rapists mate. Murdoch is the evil force in the world.

 

[tandino]

They probably didn't know. They weren't providing cars to pick up a 16yo like the BBC did. He was viewed as a sexually liberated lefty rock star like a Mick Jagger or Michael Hutchence.
I think the TV people knew the dirt.

Come on, that doesn't stand up to any logic.

 

[Aristotle Pickett]

Come on, that doesn't stand up to any logic.

So what are you asserting here? That every media organisation new he was a rapist and wrote positve stories on him anyway?

 

[jason_recliner]

I don't think the Guardian protects rapists mate. Murdoch is the evil force in the world.

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Pleasance, Edinburgh

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[Aristotle Pickett]

Russell Brand review – piety, politics and parenting

The spiritual comedian’s lofty aspirations make way for funny riffs on fatherhood and lockdown in a self-ridiculing set

www.theguardian.com

Russell Brand: Messiah Complex – review

Comic gets the balance right between imparting hippie-leftie wisdom and sending himself up, writes Brian Logan

www.theguardian.com

Russell Brand: ‘I was a needy person. I'm less mad now’

He’s moved to the country, had a baby and stayed away from politics – but is the comedian ready for a quiet life?

www.theguardian.com

Russell Brand – Exposed review: good to have him back in a celebration of oddity

Back from comedic and political hibernation, swaggering as always but a little less potent in new show Exposed

www.theguardian.com

The unstoppable rise of Russell Brand

Eighteen months ago, the comedian's career seemed on the edge of collapse. Now he's on the verge of international stardom. So what went right?

www.theguardian.com

Edinburgh festival comedy review: Russell Brand / Pleasance, Edinburgh

Pleasance, Edinburgh

www.theguardian.com

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Narrating his life via sonnets and speeches, the motormouth comic delivers a show that is both egotistical and endearing

www.theguardian.com

What makes you think they knew about his crimes? Any recent articles there ?

 

[Gralin]

You can't say the guardian didn't help him build his image.

I don't know that it matters much beyond that though unless you can prove they withheld information or knowingly promoted an abuser.

 

[jason_recliner]

What makes you think they knew about his crimes? Any recent articles there ?

2004 - 2021. If they didn't know what Brand is, what does that tell you about their abilities? As far as I can tell it was an 'open secret'. Can't see how anybody part of or connected to the industry wouldn't have heard the rumours.

Guardian writers and editors are either stupid and incompetent, or they knew and promoted him anyway (I believe the latter is far more likely).

 

[Gralin]

2004 - 2021. If they didn't know what Brand is, what does that tell you about their abilities? As far as I can tell it was an 'open secret'. Can't see how anybody part of or connected to the industry wouldn't have heard the rumours.

Guardian writers and editors are either stupid and incompetent, or they knew and promoted him anyway (I believe the latter is far more likely).

like i said he liked MSM when they promoted his shows and wrote fluff pieces, but now its a conspiracy that they're reporting on the allegations apparently

 

[jason_recliner]

like i said he liked MSM when they promoted his shows and wrote fluff pieces, but now its a conspiracy that they're reporting on the allegations apparently

As one author stated in the last couple of days, he is MSM. Apparently he was making a movie last year, was also in a Minions movie.

 

[jason_recliner]

No doubt the Lardian was suitably disparaging of My Booky Wooky:

Guardian ... Brand's Taint

Wait, what's that?

Russell Brand's gleeful tale of drugs and debauchery in My Booky Wook puts most other celebrity memoirs to shame...

Oh dear...

Shame? Shameful, for sure.

 

[tandino]

So what are you asserting here? That every media organisation new he was a rapist and wrote positve stories on him anyway?

That if the right-wing media knew more, as you asserted, then The Guardian would have known as well, or otherwise they both didn't know. It doesn't make sense otherwise.

And seperate to that, that The Guardian and some of their writers put their objectivity and good sense to one side by turning a blind eye to his problematic reputation as it was, and giving him a platform in the run up to the 2015 UK Election.

Quite literally, a platform

 

[jason_recliner]

A real comedian discussing Brand:

 

[jason_recliner]

Tenuous Brand connection, but any excuse for another laugh from the GOAT:

 

[Aristotle Pickett]

2004 - 2021. If they didn't know what Brand is, what does that tell you about their abilities? As far as I can tell it was an 'open secret'. Can't see how anybody part of or connected to the industry wouldn't have heard the rumours.

Guardian writers and editors are either stupid and incompetent, or they knew and promoted him anyway (I believe the latter is far more likely).

I don't think it was an open secret until Katherine Ryan's interview with Loius Theroux about 18 months ago or whenever it was, that's when I found out.
Anyway you have a vendetta against the Guardian anyway, you're ignoring all the press and tv that actuallu knew something.
Don't you like their climate change science articles or something?
Do you prefer to get your facts from the Daily Mail or Fox news or something?
Fair Dinkum mate you're embarrassing.

 

[Aristotle Pickett]

That if the right-wing media knew more, as you asserted, then The Guardian would have known as well, or otherwise they both didn't know. It doesn't make sense otherwise.

And seperate to that, that The Guardian and some of their writers put their objectivity and good sense to one side by turning a blind eye to his problematic reputation as it was, and giving him a platform in the run up to the 2015 UK Election.

Quite literally, a platform

I asserted that the TV shows he worked for definately knew something and the scummy Sun Murdoch press may have known something since they wete tapping everyone's phones.
It was the TV shows who did nothing was my point.
Also, as an aside, we also know that all Murdoch press is full of scum, racist, climate denying reporting.
If you want to defend Murdoch that's up to you.

 

[tandino]

I asserted that the TV shows he worked for definately knew something and the scummy Sun Murdoch press may have known something since they wete tapping everyone's phones.
It was the TV shows who did nothing was my point.
Also, as an aside, we also know that all Murdoch press is full of scum, racist, climate denying reporting.
If you want to defend Murdoch that's up to you.

Spare me your strawman old boy.

 

[Aristotle Pickett]

Spare me your strawman old boy.

Stop accusing a fact based news outlet for covering up sexual assault

 

[tandino]

Stop accusing a fact based news outlet for covering up sexual assault

The Guardian took someone with a known problem with women, put him on a pedestal, boosted his profile, turns out he's a rapist. Well done them.

Why didn't Murdoch drop the hammer on him when he was the darling of the left?

 

[Aristotle Pickett]

The Guardian took someone with a known problem with women, put him on a pedestal, boosted his profile, turns out he's a rapist. Well done them.

Why didn't Murdoch drop the hammer on him when he was the darling of the left?

It wasn't a known problem with women Did you know 2 years ago that he was a predator?

 

[Kurve]

It wasn't a known problem with women Did you know 2 years ago that he was a predator?

I didn't know but he used to annoy me so much I couldn't watch him at all, only the last three years or so I've been randomly checking in to his YT channel for a quick squizzy.

 

[tandino]

It wasn't a known problem with women Did you know 2 years ago that he was a predator?

Of course it was. More red flags than a Soviet May Day parade.

You think the only person who knew he had a problem with women was Dannii Minogue?

 

[jason_recliner]

It wasn't a known problem with women Did you know 2 years ago that he was a predator?

I didn't know but I'm not a professional comic or somebody in England writing about them, or otherwise in the industry over there. One of the groups warning women about him and others has been running since 2018:

Comedy's MeToo moment? Russell Brand's behaviour was 'open secret'

I don't know about you but I find it impossible to believe that people in London working in the industry, including journalists, wouldn't have known he and others are predators to avoid.

 

[Aristotle Pickett]

Of course it was. More red flags than a Soviet May Day parade.

You think the only person who knew he had a problem with women was Dannii Minogue?

So you knew did you?

 

[Aristotle Pickett]

I didn't know but I'm not a professional comic or somebody in England writing about them, or otherwise in the industry over there. One of the groups warning women about him and others has been running since 2018:

Comedy's MeToo moment? Russell Brand's behaviour was 'open secret'

I don't know about you but I find it impossible to believe that people in London working in the industry, including journalists, wouldn't have known he and others are predators to avoid.

It has been an open secret within the comedy industry by the sounds of it. Like I say , I wised up to it after Katherine Ryan's interview.
I don't think blaming proper journalists is correct if they didn't know or didn't have evidence. Blaming the Guardian exclusively is ridiculous when you have no evidence they knew until recently.
If you're saying the Guardian are rape apologists you're on the wrong track. Thankfully Channel 4 did a 2 year investigation and provided witness testomony, so in the end the good journalists exposed him.