Current Trial Russell Hill & Carol Clay Pt 2 *Pilot Greg Lynn sentenced 32 yrs with a non-parole period of 24 yrs

[Kurve]

Here is PART 1 Russell Hill & Carol Clay - Wonnangatta *Pilot Greg Lynn Pleads Not Guilty to Murder

DPP v Lynn [2024] VSCA 62 (12 April 2024) INTERLOCUTORY APPEAL​

R v Lynn (Rulings 1-4) [2024] VSC 373 (28 June 2024)​

R v Lynn (Rulings 5 & 6) [2024] VSC 375 (28 February 2024)

R v Lynn (Ruling 7) [2024] VSC 376 (8 May 2024)

The Greg Lynn Police Interview Tapes (Shortened Version)

The 3.5 HR Police Interview

R v Lynn [2024] VSC 635 (18 October 2024)​

THREADS FOR THE HIGH COUNTRY DISAPPEARED
High Country Disappearance of Prison Boss David Prideaux
The Disappearance of Warren Meyer

2008 - Warren Meyer (23 March 2008) not found
2010 - Japp and Annie Viergever (29 March 2010) both shot & 3 dogs, house burnt.
2011 - David Prideaux (5 June 2011) not found
2017 - Kevin Tenant (17 February 2018) shot 3 times, played dead.
2019 - Conrad Whitlock (29 July 2019) not found
2019 - Niels Becker (24 October 2019) not found
2020 - Russell Hill and Carol Clay (20 March 2020) murdered

Lynn's first wife Lisa, was found dead on 26 October 1999.

 

[Alberto_Magnifico]

Haven’t seen anything about him hand loading. If I recall correctly they found a suppressor in his gear when they searched his home.

Muzzle break seems OTT for this rig. It’s not like he’s shooting more than a couple hundred meters max.

Probably taming muzzle flip/recoil for faster follow up shots, again I reckon it goes back to his interests in western action IMO

 

[Badd0g]

The poly pipe could be a shower

Huh? I'm talking about the 4 rod holders on the bullbar...

 

[Alberto_Magnifico]

I'm with you....music for me is like scents: powerful and memory evoking. If I witnessed 2 people die, the details of what I saw, smelt and heard around me at the time would be etched in my brain. There's been a bit of discussion on how GL was extremely detailed in his account of who was here, the exact placement of his hands, the details of the clean up afterwards to remove evidence, yet there is such a vague account of other details that you would expect someone to recall in such circumstances. I like the way that InagoRaida put it...he recounted in a detached manner and as if he hadn't the lived experience of it. Can only hope the jury picked up on that too.

This picture would suggest he also fished. Also would suggest he doesn't know a lot about radio comms in the HC...that looks to be a 9db aerial that is more suited to touring than mountains.

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Also doesn't seem to care that those sausage makers are illegal in Victoria

 

[Cold Sober]

Guilty but, people are sheep, which one do they follow.
IMO. The sheep will find not guilty on one and guilty on the other, 25 to life out in 15.

 

[DropBearess]

I may have missed something. When exactly did the jury begin deliberations please?

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[Badd0g]

If that’s right ballistics evidence is related to CC.

I get what you’re saying, wasn’t the best day for the prosecution with DDs cross examination. However, not a bad sign they’re asking these questions.

DM suggests they wanted to review video footage of both GL and ballistics expert's testimony. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/me...ay-jury-murder-trial.html?ico=related-replace

 

[Kurve]

After 18 months the music/album he claims he was playing, if true, would of become a nightmare for him. Anytime he heard that album, song etc he would relive that moment. When he went back to burn the bodies he would have images set within his memory he's never going to forget. He would have images of their remains as he lit the fire and then coldly spent the night until morning to ensure there was nothing left. Even if he used Kero etc he would have had to keep piling the wood on for it to burn for hours. That's the work of one detached man and if he's that detached I wonder did it really effect him?

This may have been asked but if I was the prosecution, I'd have asked him at what point he turned the music off.

 

[Lady O]

DM suggests they wanted to review video footage of both GL and ballistics expert's testimony. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/me...ay-jury-murder-trial.html?ico=related-replace

Wow, both gave 4.5hrs of evidence, so 9hrs in total they were going to look at!!

 

[Dirh Semaj]

DM suggests they wanted to review video footage of both GL and ballistics expert's testimony. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/me...ay-jury-murder-trial.html?ico=related-replace

Without looking into it too much, this could be a good sign. They wouldn't be asking to review evidence to qualify their thoughts that he's not guilty, I wouldn't have thought.

 

[Terrafirma]

Without looking into it too much, this could be a good sign. They wouldn't be asking to review evidence to qualify their thoughts that he's not guilty, I wouldn't have thought.

Hope your right someone else said the opposite

 

[Kurve]

I may have missed something. When exactly did the jury begin deliberations please?

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Yesterday I think, so tomorrow will be day 3.

 

[Awakening]

I'm with you....music for me is like scents: powerful and memory evoking. If I witnessed 2 people die, the details of what I saw, smelt and heard around me at the time would be etched in my brain. There's been a bit of discussion on how GL was extremely detailed in his account of who was here, the exact placement of his hands, the details of the clean up afterwards to remove evidence, yet there is such a vague account of other details that you would expect someone to recall in such circumstances. I like the way that InagoRaida put it...he recounted in a detached manner and as if he hadn't the lived experience of it. Can only hope the jury picked up on that too.

This picture would suggest he also fished. Also would suggest he doesn't know a lot about radio comms in the HC...that looks to be a 9db aerial that is more suited to touring than mountains.

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Ah so that’s how the argument.

RH “you call that an aerial? This is an aerial!”

 

[Kurve]

Hope your right someone else said the opposite

Good sign I think, regardless of what they're thinking. It's real interesting they've asked for his and the ballistics specialist's testimony.

 

[Dirh Semaj]

Hope your right someone else said the opposite

One thing I'd be confident of is that the jurors weren't all on the same page going into deliberations. Otherwise, we'd have a result by now.
Another thing we know is Lynn is already innocent, by law.
By checking over some evidence, one can read that it is in order to qualify a juror/s argument.

 

[Terrafirma]

He chan

This may have been asked but if I was the prosecution, I'd have asked him at what point he turned the music off.

Would this be trajecto

One thing I'd be confident of is that the jurors weren't all on the same page going into deliberations. Otherwise, we'd have a result by now.
Another thing we know is Lynn is already innocent, by law.
By checking over some evidence, one can read that it is in order to qualify a juror/s argument.

Would this be trajectory? So Lynn knows trajectory obviously so trying ot establish how ballistics could prove guilt?

 

[Pamcake1]

Not much Jetstar can do about an actual photo of him being used in full uniform.

Is there one that has been published?
No.
The only photo I have seen of GL in a uniform was one when he was a 1st officer at Ansett on an Ansett page.
I do know a jetstar pilot and whenever she was off duty coming back from the airport when I would see her, she would have removed all identifying parts of her uniform, epaulettes, tie and badging etc.
If you are a pilot you do sign an agreement with the company, that includes restrictions on uniforms where and when they are worn. It is no suprise that there is no photo of GL in uniform.

 

[Terrafirma]

Early on in this case there is a Pilots thread similar to this. I read so many comments. All of the male co pilots said he was strange. You cpuld fly hours with him and not get to know him any better and there were reports of anger issues. His mental state post being put on medical hold was as bad if not worse than Hill's post retirement. The Pros didnt bring this up from all reports yet Hill went through the ringer.

 

[Percel]

I'm with you....music for me is like scents: powerful and memory evoking. If I witnessed 2 people die, the details of what I saw, smelt and heard around me at the time would be etched in my brain. There's been a bit of discussion on how GL was extremely detailed in his account of who was here, the exact placement of his hands, the details of the clean up afterwards to remove evidence, yet there is such a vague account of other details that you would expect someone to recall in such circumstances. I like the way that InagoRaida put it...he recounted in a detached manner and as if he hadn't the lived experience of it. Can only hope the jury picked up on that too.

This picture would suggest he also fished. Also would suggest he doesn't know a lot about radio comms in the HC...that looks to be a 9db aerial that is more suited to touring than mountains.

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Agree on the fishing, old school beach rod setup. Could have been chasing salmon, tailor, rare inshore snapper on other trips.

Or just for show……

 

[Zidane98]

Early on in this case there is a Pilots thread similar to this. I read so many comments. All of the male co pilots said he was strange. You cpuld fly hours with him and not get to know him any better and there were reports of anger issues. His mental state post being put on medical hold was as bad if not worse than Hill's post retirement. The Pros didnt bring this up from all reports yet Hill went through the ringer.

Not a good move for the prosecution to bring that up. Mental tests while not perfect are probably mote thorough for a pilot than possibly any other job. You can't be a pilot generally with poor temperament.

The jury would've been left with the impression that RH was even more likely to have been the one starting the confrontation.

 

[Zidane98]

I'm surprised Dann didn't pick up on GL not being bothered by RH threatening to hand in drone footage of his alleged hunting too close to camp.

GL being a pilot would be fully aware that flying a drone in a national park without a permit & drone licence is a serious offence.

Surely GL would be like go right ahead mate, you'll only be dobbing yourself into the coppers by handing the drone footage in.

For me in general IMO the prosecution has failed to demonstrate why GL would simply decide to blow away a couple of random strangers.

 

[Terrafirma]

I may have missed something. When exactly did the jury begin deliberations please?

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It appears Monday

 

[gymjam]

Yeah I totally agree. We’re all human and our occupation doesn’t necessarily define who we are or our personality traits.
People can be trained to do anything in a job but not necessarily take that across into their personal lives.
It was just that GL mentioned his career, and training in his interview with police.

Ahh right that makes sense, I hadn't read about it being his first deer hunt but had already assumed he wasn't much of a hunter just based on some details.
There are a lot more people out there claiming to be "deer hunters" than actual successful deer hunters, as you'd know from experience it's not the easiest activity to take up and become proficient in.

Can anyone tell what is sitting on top of the trailer? To me it looks like a couple of slabs of plywood.

 

[Dirh Semaj]

Would this be trajectory? So Lynn knows trajectory obviously so trying ot establish how ballistics could prove guilt?

No, I don't think so. The prosecution aren't relying on the trajectory of the bullet that hit Carol. In fact, the officer, said Lynn’s story was plausible in that regard.

I suspect they may be reviewing the demonstration by the ballistics expert of loading, c@cking, releasing safety of the shotgun. If there were some jurors trying to show reasons to others of Lynn's guilt, then asking how it may be plausible for Russel to know exactly how to do this in darkness with a firearm he's never touched before, would be compelling for some doubters, I think.

 

[nut]

Can anyone tell what is sitting on top of the trailer? To me it looks like a couple of slabs of plywood.

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It actually looks like a camper trailer with out the tent on it.
The ply is where the tent would be.

 

[Kurve]

I'm surprised Dann didn't pick up on GL not being bothered by RH threatening to hand in drone footage of his alleged hunting too close to camp.

GL being a pilot would be fully aware that flying a drone in a national park without a permit & drone licence is a serious offence.

Surely GL would be like go right ahead mate, you'll only be dobbing yourself into the coppers by handing the drone footage in.

For me in general IMO the prosecution has failed to demonstrate why GL would simply decide to blow away a couple of random strangers.

It helps to be able to provide a clear motive but it isn't actually necessary to secure a conviction.

We know there were tensions, we know Hill would likely have stood his ground in a confrontation and we know that Lynn is a control freak.