SALADA/VladFL: Slap on the wrist. - STRICTLY ESSENDON SUPPORTERS ONLY

[cymarak]

If a deal is taken, we will never know if it is fair or not, because the deal will involve people having to bite their tongue and not talk.

We'll never get the full truth if a deal is taken.

 

[The Jet]

Hmmm don't know. Has there been a former coach gone back to his old club in the past?

Well allan jeans took a seaosn off from Hawks, Joyce won a flag and gave the role back to Jeans the following season

 

[ManWithNoName]

If someone could explain to me why Hird should cop a ban for background checks not being done and two rogue employees not keeping records, that'd be great.

 

[Stormin10]

This sums up the media at the moment:

Goodwin says: "We're playing Carlton this week, Richmond the week after and we don’t know what (will be) happening after that," he said, in reference to the possibility of being stripped of premiership points and missing the finals.

In actual fact Goodwin was referring to 'not knowing who we will be playing in the first week of the finals as the top 8 isn't sorted yet" but yeah.. make it what you will afl.com.au

It is stuff like this that just annoys me. Completely factually wrong.

Exactly like Bill Brainless on MMM this arvo declaring at 3.15 that there was strong speculation Hird was stepping down after the meeting he was in when in the News on that very station 10 mins earlier confirmed Hird was not stepping down... Some want to paint the worst picture at every chance.


Brainless in particular has been a big advocate of just copping what ever you get regardless of you're guilt.

 

[The Jet]

No.

& The Speaker why not? I'm talking about if Hird isn't there after this season ...

 

[The Speaker]

& The Speaker why not? I'm talking about if Hird isn't there after this season ...

Because we want a coach who can potentially take us to a premiership?

 

[_BOMBERS_]

Hmmm don't know. Has there been a former coach gone back to his old club in the past?

i think Robert Walls and David Parkin switched from Carlton to Fitzroy and back again or something like that

 

[The Jet]

Because we want a coach who can potentially take us to a premiership?

And you think Sheedy wont? A legend of the club returning would surely raise the membership tally even more I would of thought.

I still believe Sheedy still has what it takes to coach another premiership. Orignally his wife didn't want him to take up the coaching role at GWS.

 

[EnolaGay]

Just a question for everyone here ... If Kevin Sheedy was to take over as Head Coach, what would we all think? would we be ok with all that?

Negatory

 

[Phone]

I mean, it seems pretty obvious that Goodwin is the likely candidate. Thompson's level of desire to return to coaching is well known....

 

[simoro1]

SEN reporting an annoucement is about to be made

 

[Jobe Watson]

Gillion McLaughlan is brokering the deal with Essendon according to Damo on Triple M. Andy D removed himself from negotiations.

 

[BOMBERS 4 LIFE!!!!]

This sums up the media at the moment:

Goodwin says: "We're playing Carlton this week, Richmond the week after and we don’t know what (will be) happening after that," he said, in reference to the possibility of being stripped of premiership points and missing the finals.

In actual fact Goodwin was referring to 'not knowing who we will be playing in the first week of the finals as the top 8 isn't sorted yet" but yeah.. make it what you will afl.com.au

It is stuff like this that just annoys me. Completely factually wrong.

I agree.
Media pick and choose bit's of info they want and put it together to suit their agenda.

 

[Harlequin]

SEN reporting an annoucement is about to be made

Channel 9 showing Hird saying he is not stepping down

 

[ManWithNoName]

(a) engaged in practices that exposed players to significant risks to their health and safety as well as the risk of using substances that were prohibited by the AFL AntiDoping Code and the World Anti-Doping Code;

Ziggy's report specifically mentions the program was to be run safely, with the approval of the Doctor and was to be legal. Every supplement program has the "risk" of using prohibited. But they don't.

disregarded standard practices involving the human resources department when employing Robinson and Dank at the Club

Oh noes.

failed to conduct routine, systematic pre-employment checks in respect of Robinson and Dank

Both had worked in elite sport before. Fail to see why this is a problem.

failed to ensure that persons with the necessary integrity, reputation, qualifications
and training were engaged by the Club to implement the program;

Judgement on Dank's integrity and reputation. Not a fact. Opinion.
Qualifications and training - He'd run them before in elite sport. But fair enough. Someone didn't read his resumé properly. Off with their head.

failed to ensure that those implementing the program were adequately supervised

What, really? You're reaching now AFL.

failed to devise or implement any adequate system or process to ensure that all substances provided to and used by players were safe and were compliant with the AFL Anti-Doping Code and the World Anti-Doping Code;

Well we asked ASADA. What else would you suggest AFL?

failed to have proper regard to player health and safety, including failing to ensure that all substances had no potentially negative effects on players

That's why the players are all so angry at the club...oh.

failed to identify and record the source from which all substances used by players
were obtained;
failed to adequately monitor and record the use of substances;
failed to audit or monitor all substances held on the premises of the Club;
failed to implement a system for recording and storing all substances held on the

premises of the Club

Identified and dealt with in Ziggy's report. Basically, we didn't keep paperwork. Oh noes.

failed to meaningfully inform players of the substances the subject of the program and obtain their informed consent to the administration of the substances

Has this not been directly contradicted by the players already?

failed to take any appropriate and adequate action when it became aware of facts that strongly suggested that unsatisfactory and potentially risky practices were occurring in relation to the administration of supplements

Standing down the people involved and asking ASADA to investigate isn't appropriate and adequate action?

[quote[created or permitted a culture at the Club that legitimised and encouraged the frequent, uninformed and unregulated use of the injection of supplements[/quote]
Judgement and opinion. Not fact.

failed to adequately protect the health, welfare and safety of the players

Go ask the players.

players were administered substances that were prohibited by the AFL Anti-Doping Code and the World Anti-Doping Code; alternatively
the Club is unable to determine whether players were administered substances prohibited by the AFL Anti-Doping Code and the World AntiDoping Code.

So "You gave them illegal drugs OR you can't prove that you didn't". The most pathetic charge in the lot.

I'll do the rest later.

 

[ollieemcdowall]

The age twitter is reporting we are almost certain to miss finals too

 

[ManWithNoName]

The age twitter is reporting we are almost certain to miss finals too

The Age twitter is HOPING*

 

[simoro1]

The age twitter is reporting we are almost certain to miss finals too

of course they are

 

[Matthew_Lloyd]

No thanks, if we lose our points, we keep our picks. If we lose our picks, we keep our points. The AFL can't have it both ways

 

[ollieemcdowall]

I really really hope we don't take this deal unless it is absolutely amazing

 

[Mercurial89]

That letter can only mean one thing.

 

[simoro1]

now we're ****ed

Nicholas Fogarty ‏@fogdog_79

16s​

Rumour is that EFC has agreed: - loss of 2013 points - 2.5 mil fine - Hird 6 month suspension - Thompson and Reid fine - Corcoran 12 months

 

[Old Campaigner]

now we're ******

Nicholas Fogarty ‏@fogdog_79

16s​

Rumour is that EFC has agreed: - loss of 2013 points - 2.5 mil fine - Hird 6 month suspension - Thompson and Reid fine - Corcoran 12 months

No draft picks lost. If Hird is happy with it then I am.

 

[ManWithNoName]

If we accept that deal the club can get f***ed.

 

[EnolaGay]

now we're ******

Nicholas Fogarty ‏@fogdog_79

16s​

Rumour is that EFC has agreed: - loss of 2013 points - 2.5 mil fine - Hird 6 month suspension - Thompson and Reid fine - Corcoran 12 months

Bah! If that's the deal, I really hope it doesn't include gagging/preventing the individuals from pursuing court cases.