Coach Sam Mitchell's direction for the club and 2024 news

[Strapping Young Lad]

If anyone wants to have a listen about what the data is saying in regards to whether we have actually gotten worse this year have a listen to this from the 9:15 mark.

I know a few people have already touched on it, but the data is also showing that our results this year have been slightly better despite actually putting out a younger team and dealing with some injuries.




And here.

 

[MasterSamurai]

That is a very solid best 22 !!

 

[Dewnior]

Morrison stiff

 

[Manila_Hawk]

What about Conor Nash

11

Conor Nash

Age

26

Ht

198cm

Wt

94kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

8.7

2star

K

3.9

2star

HB

4.8

3star

M

2.0

2star

T

3.1

5star

CL

0.3

2star

No current season stats available

D

8.4

3star

K

4.2

2star

HB

4.2

4star

M

2.4

3star

T

4.0

5star

CL

0.2

2star

and Daniel Howe

15

Daniel Howe

Age

28

Ht

193cm

Wt

88kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.2

4star

K

8.9

3star

HB

7.3

5star

M

4.3

4star

T

4.5

5star

CL

2.2

4star

No current season stats available

D

12.2

3star

K

6.6

3star

HB

5.6

4star

M

4.4

4star

T

3.2

5star

CL

1.0

3star

?

Couldn't even get a spot on the bench...

 

[Hawkboy62]

Long before Ward, Rei?

I honestly think Ward will go close to winning the Rising Star.

Wrong board! Take it to the North and Pies board!

 

[Stranglers]

Some quality content from the club. At the rate young Ward is filling out he could end up a modern day Micky Conlan.

Can't wait to see these kids in action. Could be the best crop in years.

Side note, Worps looks like he's carved out of stone in this video. Looking forward to seeing how the mids go this year under Mitch!

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

 

[TylerDurden]

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Great insight.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Big boy speaking a bit in here about the way things have changed at the club with new perspectives.

 

[HomerJayS]

Quote from the Adduci article on AFL website:

Adduci has trained with the forwards over the past few weeks, working closely with three-time premiership veteran Luke Breust

22

Luke Breust

Age

34

Ht

182cm

Wt

82kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.6

4star

K

8.0

3star

HB

6.7

4star

M

3.4

3star

T

4.0

5star

G

1.9

5star

D

10.0

3star

K

6.0

2star

HB

4.0

3star

M

1.3

1star

T

4.8

5star

G

1.5

5star

D

9.8

3star

K

6.0

3star

HB

3.8

3star

M

2.4

3star

T

2.8

5star

G

1.8

5star

, Dylan Moore

13

Dylan Moore

Age

25

Ht

177cm

Wt

77kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.9

3star

K

5.1

2star

HB

6.7

4star

M

4.4

4star

T

2.9

4star

G

0.3

3star

No current season stats available

D

12.2

3star

K

6.0

3star

HB

6.2

4star

M

5.4

5star

T

2.8

5star

G

0.4

3star

and Jai Newcombe.

This reads that Newcombe has been training as a forward. Maybe the brains trust is thinking midfield, resting up forward - not on the bench. His tackling pressure would be most welcomed. It’s been missing since Poppy retired.

 

[Brant]

Quote from the Adduci article on AFL website:

Adduci has trained with the forwards over the past few weeks, working closely with three-time premiership veteran Luke Breust, Dylan Moore and Jai Newcombe.

This reads that Newcombe has been training as a forward. Maybe the brains trust is thinking midfield, resting up forward - not on the bench. His tackling pressure would be most welcomed. It’s been missing since Poppy retired.

Would need to work on his speed (considerably) for that role, but there's every chance he could offer some genuine forward grunt as a scoring option.

 

[Pessimistic]

Quote from the Adduci article on AFL website:

Adduci has trained with the forwards over the past few weeks, working closely with three-time premiership veteran Luke Breust, Dylan Moore and Jai Newcombe.

This reads that Newcombe has been training as a forward. Maybe the brains trust is thinking midfield, resting up forward - not on the bench. His tackling pressure would be most welcomed. It’s been missing since Poppy retired.

If the club wants fast track midfield options who may not have a full tank yet, it’s seems like one way to do it.
Maybe the high midfield rotation of the Clarko years will continue somewhat. Also the rotation cap has been reduced?

 

[Brishawk]

Would need to work on his speed (considerably) for that role, but there's every chance he could offer some genuine forward grunt as a scoring option.

I have been wondering if Finn and maybe Newcombe could play up forward and we try and isolate them to use their strength and size as an advantage. Kind of like how caddy was briefly a hard match up up forward. Just an option that would make it easier to have them in the side for development plus provide a genuine option when not in the middle.

 

[Ned Ryerson]

Quote from the Adduci article on AFL website:

Adduci has trained with the forwards over the past few weeks, working closely with three-time premiership veteran Luke Breust, Dylan Moore and Jai Newcombe.

This reads that Newcombe has been training as a forward. Maybe the brains trust is thinking midfield, resting up forward - not on the bench. His tackling pressure would be most welcomed. It’s been missing since Poppy retired.

Would be interesting - however my money would be on the AFL journalist having no idea who Jai is nor where he plays.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Would be interesting - however my money would be on the AFL journalist having no idea who Jai is nor where he plays.

Spot on.

 

[Brant]

Would be interesting - however my money would be on the AFL journalist having no idea who Jai is nor where he plays.

Almost certain: "Hawthorn further exploit Free Agency..."

 

[TylerDurden]

 

[hawkman]

Club in crisis. Senior players won't feel welcome after they were shopped

The Hawks, or the Giants? Luke Breust had 48 hours to make the call

Champion Hawk Luke Breust and his wife had just 48 hours to decide whether they wanted to spend 2022 in Melbourne, or Sydney. In the end, he stuck with Hawthorn.

www.theage.com.au

 

[Ned Ryerson]

Shared by CliffMcTainshaw in the training thread. Just reaffirms my faith and confidence in Sam. Also reaffirms my love for Breust:

The Hawks, or the Giants? Luke Breust had 48 hours to make the call

Champion Hawk Luke Breust and his wife had just 48 hours to decide whether they wanted to spend 2022 in Melbourne, or Sydney. In the end, he stuck with Hawthorn.

www.theage.com.au

 

[TylerDurden]

We took McDonald with the pick and kept Luke.
Win win.

 

[Ned Ryerson]

I do enjoy the ‘FiRe SaLe’ narrative of the press that ignores the fact that senior footy players are adults who can handle big concepts. Two of whom knew what was going on and wanted to stay at the club to be part of the rebuild despite the messy coaching handover. The belief is there.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

It’s a good article and I want to congratulate Ryan on most that he writes and put him up there as the best footy writer, but then I read this…

“It’s why his presence at Hawthorn will be invaluable for players such as Dylan Moore

13

Dylan Moore

Age

25

Ht

177cm

Wt

77kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.9

3star

K

5.1

2star

HB

6.7

4star

M

4.4

4star

T

2.9

4star

G

0.3

3star

No current season stats available

D

12.2

3star

K

6.0

3star

HB

6.2

4star

M

5.4

5star

T

2.8

5star

G

0.4

3star

and Josh Morris, with Mitchell recognising that and putting Breust to good use.”

 

[eldorado]

I do enjoy the ‘FiRe SaLe’ narrative of the press

That narrative holds two mutually exclusive tenets to be absolutely true.

1. Hawthorn were 'bad' for seeing if they could get high picks with their better older players. That tactic was a failure.
2. They should have taken whatever they were offered, like pick 60 for Gunston, because their list is so shit. Not doing so was also a failure.

 

[Mercy Seat]

I do enjoy the ‘FiRe SaLe’ narrative of the press that ignores the fact that senior footy players are adults who can handle big concepts. Two of whom knew what was going on and wanted to stay at the club to be part of the rebuild despite the messy coaching handover. The belief is there.

Part of the narrative was probably driven by oppo clubs trying to rock the boat.

With the Breust / GWS trade, they were filthy we spent 3 days negotiating the deal without having run it past the player before hand (in the words of Bartel). But from all reports we didn’t want to bring the deal to player unless it worked for us.