SANFL AFL reserves teams.

[chazwazza]

Just thought I’d share some stats collated since 2014 and the advent of stand alone AFL reserves teams.
Unfortunately “journos” and talking heads don’t seem to be capable of doing a modicum of research into both reserves teams but very willing to comment on the rhetoric spruiked by people like Chris Davies.

This is a bit of a clunky and quick tally of finals since 2014, happy to be corrected where necessary.



Since 2014
F- Finals played.
GF- Grand finals played.
P- Premierships.
FS- Final series played.

Sturt - F-18 GF-3 P-2 FS- 7

WWT - F-16 GF-4 P-2 FS-7

Norwood - F-15 GF-3 P-2 FS-7

Adelaide - F-15 GF-0 P-0 FS-5

Port Power Res. - F-12 GF-3 P-0 FS-5

South- F-11 GF-0 P-0 FS-5

North Adelaide - F-9 GF-3 P-1 FS-4

Glenelg - F-8 GF-3 P-2 FS-6

Centrals - F-8 GF-0 P-0 FS-4

West - F-4 GF-1 P-1 FS-1

Added to that there’s some distinct disadvantages or restrictions SANFL clubs are bound by….it’s not only the reserves teams that face restrictions, again, never brought up in this discussion by those in the media with an agenda.

-Reserves teams have access to the mid season draft, rookie draft and main draft, SANFL clubs don’t, it’s highly likely SANFL clubs will lose players to both reserves teams through the drafts.

-SANFL clubs have to pay a transfer fee to trade in a player from another SANFL club, reserves teams don’t, this includes a delisted AFL player who chooses to go to another SANFL club seperate from his junior SANFL club…as an example, Sturt had to pay a transfer fee to West to get Snelling to Unley even though he was delisted by Essendon.
On the flip side of that, SANFL clubs don’t need to pay a transfer fee to the reserves teams for a player…. ie Sturt wouldn’t need to pay Adelaide for James Matthews.

-SANFL clubs are heavily restricted by a salary cap, reserves teams drastically exceed the SANFL salary cap every week.

-SANFL clubs have to show a minimum turnover profit every year or they get penalised with a lower salary cap.

It’s also interesting to look at the VFL ladder at the moment.
13th Sydney
16th Casey (Melb res)
17th Essendon
19th Collingwood
21st Carlton at the bottom of the table.
So four current top 8 AFL teams are all very low on the VFL ladder. The only person I’ve heard to make this point in the media is Marty Mattner on SEN, you’d think an ex “journalist” like Michaelangelo Rucci could do some research into this topic instead of the parroting typical AFL rhetoric.

It’s not just AFL reserves teams that face restrictions.
Feel free to correct anything or add to this.

 

[MannyK]

As with much in life unfortunately you have to take fairness out of the equation and do what you can to gain an advantage which is what Port and the Crows are doing. Using stats and logic as shown above wont sway them unfortunately.
The SANFL however are in the box seat as the reserves sides have made it very clear they want out in the near future so we dont owe them anything. It will be interesting to see what the SANFL give up and whether the SAnFL can gain anything like money towards a higher salary cap which would benefit everyone as the standard of the SANFL would improve. If the reserves sides play in the SANFl, fine but I would like to see them not allowed to participate in the finals regardless of how many wins they have. The final 5 can then be made of up from the other 8 sides as if the reserves werent in it.

 

[chazwazza]

As with much in life unfortunately you have to take fairness out of the equation and do what you can to gain an advantage which is what Port and the Crows are doing. Using stats and logic as shown above wont sway them unfortunately.
The SANFL however are in the box seat as the reserves sides have made it very clear they want out in the near future so we dont owe them anything. It will be interesting to see what the SANFL give up and whether the SAnFL can gain anything like money towards a higher salary cap which would benefit everyone as the standard of the SANFL would improve. If the reserves sides play in the SANFl, fine but I would like to see them not allowed to participate in the finals regardless of how many wins they have. The final 5 can then be made of up from the other 8 sides as if the reserves werent in it.

I’ve often thought a no finals stance was always the best outcome, again Port would cry poor and shit the bed about it but they need to decide what their main goal is and give up on the masquerade that Port Magpies matter.
It would free them up to do as they please and they can play trial games against each other during finals if needed.

The rules, restrictions and regulations of both reserves teams are always reviewed each year so I’m really not sure what someone like Chris Davies is really bitching about…apart from deflecting away from the internal chasms inside the PAFC and supporters.