and what do you base that on?
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I'm "overwhelmingly" confident there won't be any evidence presented that incriminates Essendon players
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On all the circumstantial evidence available to us, unlike you who is basing your stance on sfa and hope
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I am not sure about culture, clubs bring in a lot of external people to produce results and wouldn't put it past some people to cheat to get ahead.
I am more optimistic that being poor doesn't give us the capability to blow shitloads of money on shonky drugs before we get a tip-off by some cop who supports the club that the federal police are investigating.
Not suggesting any of the above happened of course.
I think people are too quick to put the boot into Essendon, there are probably a lot of clubs that are vulnerable.
I am more optimistic that being poor doesn't give us the capability to blow shitloads of money on shonky drugs before we get a tip-off by some cop who supports the club that the federal police are investigating.
Not suggesting any of the above happened of course.
I think people are too quick to put the boot into Essendon, there are probably a lot of clubs that are vulnerable.
I am not one to blindly berate the media, but I am also not one to consider media reports as "evidence"On all the circumstantial evidence available to us, unlike you who is basing your stance on sfa and hope
There's a woman in a Tasmanian prison convicted of murdering her husband based entirely on circumstantial evidence. Quite a startling case actually.
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I think I read about that a few weeks ago. Daughter (from an earlier marriage) is totally convinced that she is innocent, if I recall correctly. The husband's offspring are totally convinced she's guilty. It was an interesting story, and serves to underline my point.
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Fair enough but I clearly recall you stating "this doesn't look good" few times during this saga upon hearing something regarding this subject in the same media you're doubting. And thats not even asking for an honest answer how many times you thought this but refrained from showing it on this board
I am not immune from being affected by it. And it doesn't look good. Even the best case scenario isn't really flash.Fair enough but I clearly recall you stating "this doesn't look good" few times during this saga upon hearing something regarding this subject in the same media you're doubting. And thats not even asking for an honest answer how many times you thought this but refrained from showing it on this board
LanceRomance
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Wouldn't surprise me if Vlad got up and said those exact words at the end of all this.
30 players from 6 clubs were on his books back in 03 according to this article so not sure how relevant it is to the current situation.
http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/a...urtain-20130419-2i5io.html?rand=1366380671966
I've been enjoying Lance's latching onto the 30 players from 6 clubs argument , as though it's currently relevant.
Charter's mention of those numbers on 4 Corners was clearly a historical reference.
That's correct. Lance Uppercut keeps saying that Charters has these blokes on his books but that was in reference to a decade ago, prior to getting caught up in drug importation.
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From the way I read it, Charters is agreeing to dob on everyone so that he can look principled and in the wash up get himself a job with the AFL in some sort of anti-drugs role.
It's probably not a bad card to play even if it's a pair of twos. If Essendon or Dank had an ace they would have played it by now.
It's probably not a bad card to play even if it's a pair of twos. If Essendon or Dank had an ace they would have played it by now.
You are overwhelmingly delusional.
Given the comment was about charters interview and he stated he didnt believe his comments would incriminate Essendon players I think youre wrong
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All they need is for Kyle Reimers to talk, but it seems like the AFL have slapped a gag on him.
According to what Dank claimed Hird took in 2012, Hird may have been all 30 players himself back then.
kidding. honest
How can they not interview Reimers?
They just need to put together a case, they don't need positive tests. Think Lane Armstrong. It won't be one golden bullet that takes them down it will be a thousand cuts.
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No, I’m just disappointed
Charters was asked if his evidence would incriminate individual players. He said it wouldn't. Prior to that he was asked if the evidence he would give would be good or bad for Essendon. He replied simply that it would be factual testimony.
Conspiracy theories abound
That's got me stumped too. He's likely got some people staring him down. Hopefully he has the guts to come forth like Charters did.
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No, I’m just disappointed
That's not exactly what Charter said. Did you listen to it live?
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