Slattery's courage

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So all I need to do to show courage is to wander back with the ball and get knocked out? Sheesh, sounds like he has limited feel for the game. I'd be more impressed if it was a head to head against Brown or someone similar - for all he knew it was Eddie Betts coming up behind him.

If he's that courageous... play this week. Go on!

Oh that's right, as a Dons poster has already said - he did you guys a favour by getting knocked out because he's useless!

Hope he's alright etc, but let's not start awarding him a VC...


Exactly, it could have been anyone coming at him, thats what was gutsy about it. You prove my point with your own illogical ramble.
The day anyone at Richmond shows some balls is the day you will realistically be a threat to the title.
 
Ryders mark was incidental, a realistic attempt, that was not going to put Wiggins at any risk of injury.

Getting kneed in the head when two guys are running at full steam in opposite direction is not incidental high contact.

It shouldn't go any further and it clearly wasn't deliberate, but it was a free kick every day of the week.



Fevola's eyes were on the ball (therefore in the air) as were slattery's until just before contact. They both would have basically had no awarness of each other until just before contact was made, that's what's called incidental contact.
Ryder's was less so as he obviously planned to put his knees on wiggins shoulder.
 
Exactly, it could have been anyone coming at him, thats what was gutsy about it. You prove my point with your own illogical ramble.
The day anyone at Richmond shows some balls is the day you will realistically be a threat to the title.

So should we have been understanding if he winced and pulled out? These guys are footballers - that's what they are supposed (and paid) to do...

Bowden on Saturday - knocked hard (in the course of a disputed ball) by someone who actually will be suspended for the hit (unlike Fev). Went off, then came back on and racked up a lazy 40 possies and saved the game.

Bowden 2005 - played 7 days after sustaining a hairline fracture of the cheekbone - the identical injury sustained by Slattery

Richo 2006 - played 6 days after sustaining a more significant fracture to the cheekbone and eyesocket. And kicked 5 goals...

C'mon - if Slattery's so courageous, why isn't he playing this week? It's not as if he broke a leg...

Next..... :rolleyes::rolleyes:
 

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It was very courageous, but it was another example of stupid courage IMO...

He had no idea where the ball was, no idea where Fev was and simply ran into his knee. Don't think he realised he was in so much danger...
 
I post on many threads

About Essendon and Essendon players.

The odds were not stacked in his favour in that clash.

Only because Fev jumped early.

But Judd with experience was smart enough to give up on the ball and brace for the hit - and not with a millisecond to spare!

Slattery did brace, but Lloyd was standing on the ground, he wasn't six feet in the air like Fev was.

You're comparing chalk and cheese.

Slattery won't change. He knows one thing, go at the footy. It won't be the last time Slattery is taken from the ground on a stretcher.

But hey, I guess he could have done what Grigg did to allow Neagle to mark on the lead in the 2nd quarter.
 
Personally i though fevola went early....free to bombers, fevola Reckless, significant and high.......3 weeks

Fletcher had a hand on his back, nice little shove Fev's overcommitted. Free for a push in the back. The call of the replay definitely looked for and saw Fletcher's hand in Fev's back.
 
It was very courageous, but it was another example of stupid courage IMO...

In future years 'stupid courage' will be definied with a picture of Shaun McManus. I've never seen one guy put his head in so many wrong places over the course of an AFL career.
 
Havent touched an Essendon thread for weeks. And theres been plenty of them I could have posted on. I'm not the stalker you think I am.

Move on.

You're absolutely right, my mistake.

Apart from the Matthew Lloyd and Scott Lucas (also Scott Gumbleton) threads, you haven't been anywhere near an Essendon thread in the last week or so.
 
Fevola's eyes were on the ball (therefore in the air) as were slattery's until just before contact. They both would have basically had no awarness of each other until just before contact was made, that's what's called incidental contact.
Ryder's was less so as he obviously planned to put his knees on wiggins shoulder.


But Ryder held the mark. :rolleyes:
 

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So all I need to do to show courage is to wander back with the ball and get knocked out? Sheesh, sounds like he has limited feel for the game. I'd be more impressed if it was a head to head against Brown or someone similar - for all he knew it was Eddie Betts coming up behind him.

If he's that courageous... play this week. Go on!

Oh that's right, as a Dons poster has already said - he did you guys a favour by getting knocked out because he's useless!

Hope he's alright etc, but let's not start awarding him a VC...

Yeah, once heard that Slattery wouldn't put his head in front of an oncoming train.

How weak is that?

Slattery was courageous, and thankfully the damage wasn't too bad.

Full stop.
 
...and thats got what to do with the price of eggs? :eek:


Everything in my opinion.

Umpires are less inclined to give a free kick for incidental contact when the mark is taken as it shows the player made a realistic attempt to take the mark.

Ryder made a clean leap, landed on the guys shoulders and took the mark.

Fevola never looked like he was even close to taking the mark and if anything it was an unrealistic attempt.
 
So all I need to do to show courage is to wander back with the ball and get knocked out? Sheesh, sounds like he has limited feel for the game. I'd be more impressed if it was a head to head against Brown or someone similar - for all he knew it was Eddie Betts coming up behind him.

If he's that courageous... play this week. Go on!

Oh that's right, as a Dons poster has already said - he did you guys a favour by getting knocked out because he's useless!

Hope he's alright etc, but let's not start awarding him a VC...


You have no idea do you mate.

Have you ever played football yourself? I didn't think so!

If you have you would know that you are taught from a very young age never to take your eyes of the ball even when you know you are going to get hit.

It makes no difference if you don't know if it is Barry Hall or skinny Lappin coming at you, it is very scary none the less and it shows great courage to disregard this.

Having said this, if you don't think that Slattery saw Fev coming early on on a hard lead you are kidding yourself. Just because he had his eyes on the ball as it was coming in doesn't mean that he didn't look earlier and actually read the play. I know it is hard for you to grasp but players do actually do this occasionally. :rolleyes:

You know nothing about courage and you have obviously never played the game and been in a similiar situation to Slattery.
 
Everything in my opinion.

Umpires are less inclined to give a free kick for incidental contact when the mark is taken as it shows the player made a realistic attempt to take the mark.

Ryder made a clean leap, landed on the guys shoulders and took the mark.

Fevola never looked like he was even close to taking the mark and if anything it was an unrealistic attempt.

Fevola never got near it because he collided with Slattery as he started to jump, so instead of continuing to rise and raise his arms he fell. If you can't see that i can recommend a few optomotrists.

Fevola's attempt was far more realistic as it wasn't based on needing to stand on someones shoulders (Which players don't pull off as much as a standard mark). It was based on a lead and then leap.

Watch the footage again and keep in mind Fevola's height is a tad over 3ft high.
 
So all I need to do to show courage is to wander back with the ball and get knocked out?

You make it sound so simple. Have you ever played the game? It isn't. To put yourself in that sort of position takes a lot of courage.

Sheesh, sounds like he has limited feel for the game. I'd be more impressed if it was a head to head against Brown or someone similar - for all he knew it was Eddie Betts coming up behind him.

If he's that courageous... play this week. Go on!

Oh that's right, as a Dons poster has already said - he did you guys a favour by getting knocked out because he's useless!

Hope he's alright etc, but let's not start awarding him a VC...

UTG - You clearly have no understanding of what the word even means:

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/courage

Are you suggesting that Slattery is scared to play next week? Because that would be the only conclusion to draw as to next week being any bearing on his courage. The only reason he would not play is due to the medicos not allowing it.

Bowden & Richo can 'thank' the alleged gross negligence of their medical advisors for allowing them to play the following week..... and the lack of depth at Punt Rd that helped force their hand.
 
Fevola never got near it because he collided with Slattery as he started to jump, so instead of continuing to rise and raise his arms he fell. If you can't see that i can recommend a few optomotrists.

Fevola's attempt was far more realistic as it wasn't based on needing to stand on someones shoulders (Which players don't pull off as much as a standard mark). It was based on a lead and then leap.

Watch the footage again and keep in mind Fevola's height is a tad over 3ft high.


Mate, i have not said that i beleive it is a free kick against Fevola. All i have said it was more of a free kick than the Ryder mark. If you think Ryders was a free then Fevola's was definately a free kick because he didn't take the mark.

This is the first time i have ever heard of someone disputing a mark where a player sits on his opponenets shoulders. It is almost laughable. Basically you are saying that ever hanger that has ever been taken in the history of the game should have been ruled as a free kick against. :D:D:thumbsu:
 
UTG - You clearly have no understanding of what the word even means:

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/courage

Are you suggesting that Slattery is scared to play next week? Because that would be the only conclusion to draw as to next week being any bearing on his courage. The only reason he would not play is due to the medicos not allowing it.

Bowden & Richo can 'thank' the alleged gross negligence of their medical advisors for allowing them to play the following week..... and the lack of depth at Punt Rd that helped force their hand.


Yep, it's obvious the guy has never played before so it is no point discussing it with him. There is nothing scarier in football then running with the flight of the ball whilst looking at it and not knowing what is coming. You know you are going to cop it but you have to go.
 
Mate, i have not said that i beleive it is a free kick against Fevola. All i have said it was more of a free kick than the Ryder mark. If you think Ryders was a free then Fevola's was definately a free kick because he didn't take the mark.

This is the first time i have ever heard of someone disputing a mark where a player sits on his opponenets shoulders. It is almost laughable. Basically you are saying that ever hanger that has ever been taken in the history of the game should have been ruled as a free kick against. :D:D:thumbsu:

Try reading my posts instead of making stuff up.

Ryders mark was a mark every single day of the week. I never said it should not have been.
But what I am saying is if the free was given to Slattery because of high contact then thats an absolute joke and Wiggins should have been given a free for Ryders mark.

Understand what i am saying?
 
Fevola's eyes were on the ball (therefore in the air) as were slattery's until just before contact. They both would have basically had no awarness of each other until just before contact was made, that's what's called incidental contact.
Ryder's was less so as he obviously planned to put his knees on wiggins shoulder.


Are you sure your not comparing incidental with accidental?

It doesn't matter whether Fev was going for the ball or not, or whether they had awareness of each other. That is accidental contact.
The speed of both players and the force at which Fevs knee accidentally collided into Slattery's head means the contact definately wasn't incidental.
 
But what I am saying is if the free was given to Slattery because of high contact then thats an absolute joke and Wiggins should have been given a free for Ryders mark.

Do we know for a fact that the free kick wasn't paid in order to stop play and allow the medico's to get Slattery off the ground?

It was evident from the very point of impact that the player was in trouble.

Rather than arguing over what should and shouldn't represent a free kick, lets be thankful that play was stopped and no further damage was done.
 

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