Smacking Kids: Is It Really Abuse? Or Does It Help Them Learn?

[loyallion]

Smacking Kids is it needed to teach kids right from wrong whilst they act up?

IMO No it isn't needed yet alot of people believe when you smack your child while they have been Naughty will teach them not todo it again.

Thoughts?

 

[bunsen burner]

Do you have kids?

 

[spell_check]

Smacking Kids is it needed to teach kids right from wrong whilst they act up?

IMO No it isn't needed yet alot of people believe when you smack your child while they have been Naughty will teach them not todo it again.

Thoughts?

So long as you don't belt the shit out of them, yes.

 

[bunsen burner]

I got smacked and as a child never felt I was abused then or now.

I think you're welcome to have an opinion on it if you don't have kids but you're never really going to know what works until you have them and need to discipline them. You need to keep an open mind because having this ideal that it's outright wrong and doesn't work whilst other methods do is ignorant.

The advanatge of a smack is that it's short term. Better than verbally abusing them or messing with their heads. Yes there's others ways apart from these two but the smack is a good tool.

 

[JUBJUB]

Could parents stop smacking their kids in shopping centres ?
A kid is crying and then gets smacked.Guess what - it doesn't stop them crying.

Take it home and belt the little buggers.That way you get stuck with the screaming rugrat and I don't have to hear the little terrors.

 

[loyallion]

Could parents stop smacking their kids in shopping centres ?
A kid is crying and then gets smacked.Guess what - it doesn't stop them crying.

Take it home and belt the little buggers.That way you get stuck with the screaming rugrat and I don't have to hear the little terrors.

I don't know which is worse a kid that is screaming and chucking a tanty and not getting smacked or a kid that actually gets smacked and screams.

 

[Brown Bottle]

I got smacked and as a child never felt I was abused then or now.

I think you're welcome to have an opinion on it if you don't have kids but you're never really going to know what works until you have them and need to discipline them. You need to keep an open mind because having this ideal that it's outright wrong and doesn't work whilst other methods do is ignorant.

The advanatge of a smack is that it's short term. Better than verbally abusing them or messing with their heads. Yes there's others ways apart from these two but the smack is a good tool.

Good post Bunny. I always thought it was pretty simple, until I had 3 of my own. Sometimes it's necessary, like it or not.

People without kids have this notion that you can reason with a child, but there are times when all else fails, things of value are being broken, or your other children are at risk of getting hurt, and a smack brings the situation to a sudden close. Shock value, if you like.

 

[teams]

They will get different to when you feel like giving them a whack.

When that happens (when they resume normal broadcasting) enter humour about that disgusting mood they had. You will get a laugh out of them.

In the infant stage, voice tone carries the day.


That's basic parenting.

 

[Hap Hapablap]

smacking is ok as long as it isnt overdone. some friends i know were literaly belted the ******** out of which in my point of view just makes a child even more disobedient.

 

[bunsen burner]

Could parents stop smacking their kids in shopping centres ?

I generally don't smack mine in public.

A kid is crying and then gets smacked.Guess what - it doesn't stop them crying.

Take it home and belt the little buggers.That way you get stuck with the screaming rugrat and I don't have to hear the little terrors.

Here's the dilemma:

When a child has a tanty (i have a 2 year old and it's tanty season) it needs to be ignored and treated with indifference. Smacking or reasoning doesn't work. Like when you condition them to sleep you need to condition them that tanties don't work and is a waste of time.

So you have the choice:

1. pick it up and leave the shopping centre. Spares everyone else but teaches the child bad habits that sooner or later will have to be broken.

2. leave it there and act indifferent like you don't care. Pisses all the other shoppers off but will teach the child much quicker that tanties don't work.

I do number 2.

 

[bunsen burner]

What is it with grandparents and older women?

I was in the shopping centre the other day and my daughter started to have a tanty. I said to her "ok, I'm going, I'll see you later". A lady/idiot walks past with her teenage daughter and visually starts feeling sorry for my daughter with an "ohhhhhh". I look at her and say firmly "go away". She gives me a dirty look and walks off. My daughter decides going with Daddy is a better option than hanging at the shopping centre. She comes with me and everything's cool from then on.


What is wrong with these people? It's not as if they haven't been through it before and know the drill? And what is it with grandparents undermining the parents? Did they forget? Are they really that ****ed that they have to bribe kids to like them?

 

[teams]

What is it with grandparents and older women?

I was in the shopping centre the other day and my daughter started to have a tanty. I said to her "ok, I'm going, I'll see you later". A lady/idiot walks past with her teenage daughter and visually starts feeling sorry for my daughter with an "ohhhhhh". I look at her and say firmly "go away". She gives me a dirty look and walks off. My daughter decides going with Daddy is a better option than hanging at the shopping centre. She comes with me and everything's cool from then on.


What is wrong with these people? It's not as if they haven't been through it before and know the drill? And what is it with grandparents undermining the parents? Did they forget? Are they really that ****ed that they have to bribe kids to like them?

The parenting key is recognizing that you are teaching a child to be a parent.

That mother is trying to teach parenting to her daughter. You weren't all that involved.

 

[bunsen burner]

The parenting key is recognizing that you are teaching a child to be a parent.

That mother is trying to teach parenting to her daughter. You weren't all that involved.

1. Well she wasn't teaching her very good
2. She should **** off and leave my family alone.
3. She should have been teaching her daughter how to give blow jobs because given the daughter's age it's much more relavent. And helps a few guys out down the track.

 

[teams]

1. Well she wasn't teaching her very good
2. She should **** off and leave my family alone.
3. She should have been teaching her daughter how to give blow jobs because given the daughter's age it's much more relavent. And helps a few guys out down the track.

You miss the message.

Bring up your kids to be parents.

Look at them and ask if you want them to be smacking their kids. (your grandkids)

Would you consider it best if your kids did or did not craze away as you do on the keyboard?

 

[Chief]

Smacking or hitting is lazy parenting. Full stop.

 

[bunsen burner]

Look at them and ask if you want them to be smacking their kids. (your grandkids)

Although I am aware that most people just copy their parents without even knowing it, I'm tipping my kids will be smart enough to realise that parents are perfect and inevitable mistakes and be able to incorporate the good features and disregard the bad ones. And then go make some mistakes of ther own.

I'm amazed at how may people make the same mistakes their parents did and also amazed at how many parents I see not acknowledging mistakes and coming out with stuff "I just wanted the best for you" or "I did that because it was best for you" etc

Would you consider it best if your kids did or did not craze away as you do on the keyboard?

They're asleep. And when I say sleep I really mean it. Both are/were abe to sleep through the night very early. They don't **** about and want cuddles or bottles in the middle of the night.

 

[bunsen burner]

Smacking or hitting is lazy parenting. Full stop.

Care to explain?

 

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[skilts]

Smacking or hitting is lazy parenting. Full stop.

Of course it helps them to learn - to beat their own children.

 

[Chief]

Care to explain?

It just shows a parent not willing or able to try non-violent methods. I've never laid a hand on my 3 year old and he's a great kid. Used time-outs, rewards, ignoring the bad behaviour, getting down on his level and reasoning with him in age-appropriate ways.

I think once he was going for something dangerous and I knocked his hand out of the way, but I would have done that with anyone in the circumstances.

Hitting is just not needed.

 

[Chief]

video

hehe

 

[bunsen burner]

It just shows a parent not willing or able to try non-violent methods. .

nonsense. I use all those other methods you mention below as well.

I've never laid a hand on my 3 year old and he's a great kid. Used time-outs, rewards, ignoring the bad behaviour, getting down on his level and reasoning with him in age-appropriate ways.

That's like having a tool kit with no spanner. I'd much rather have the whole tool kit available.

 

[loyallion]

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Good old South Park

Anyway back to the topic, Has anyone noticed how kids these days are so very different to what we were like? The major reason for this is simple they are exposed to so much more than what we were.

It's fair to say that parenting these days isn't even close to the standard we were brought up with and basically, the parents these days are bringing up a generation of spoilt little ********s, Who are learning things like Don't bother cooking yourself a healthy dinner go buy Mc Donalds, As soon as there is a problem go take some pills and it will go away, Throw a tantrum and you get what you want, I could go on But you get the point.

Is it any wonder we have so many issues with kids these days We have everything from a growing obesity epidemic, to kids who have ADD (which I think is a load of bull********)

Kids need to know boundries without them we are turning them into idiots.

 

[Chief]

Smacking is more like a sledgehammer in your tool kit and your job is fixing Swiss watches.

Think about the frame of mind you have to be in to hit a child. If you have to smack you're not trying hard enough or not doing it properly. Smacking is the short-cut band-aid solution. Lazy parenting.

 

[bunsen burner]

Think about the frame of mind you have to be in to hit a child.

No different to the others.