Sponsor Watch

[Section 5]

I ring up every year to compare my current insurances and I am yet to receive a better quote from Youi.
I agree with Mighty Lions that they are a pack of thieving Mongrels because they are always hundreds of dollars more expensive, unlike their adds suggest.

Think you are reading to much into my reply to MightyLions
I was not suggesting YOUI is a good or bad company regarding insurance

And it is not clear that MightyLions was saying they are a bad insurance company either. Maybe he/she was ?.
I took his/her reply as YOUI also bombad us with adds similar to betting adds, so we should also flick them as a sponsor.
Because that is what was being discussed

Not sure the Brisbane Lions would like someone most likely connected with the club making that statement after just losing a big sponsor

 

[briztoon]

I ring up every year to compare my current insurances and I am yet to receive a better quote from Youi.
I agree with Mighty Lions that they are a pack of thieving Mongrels because they are always hundreds of dollars more expensive, unlike their adds suggest.

lol I did the same this year, and fell off my chair, when their quote came in higher than my current insurance.

They straight away knocked $400 off, but that was still above the best quote I had, from AAMI.

 

[Dalions]

Think you are reading to much into my reply to MightyLions
I was not suggesting YOUI is a good or bad company regarding insurance

And it is not clear that MightyLions was saying they are a bad insurance company either. Maybe he/she was ?.
I took his/her reply as YOUI also bombad us with adds similar to betting adds, so we should also flick them as a sponsor.
Because that is what was being discussed

Not sure the Brisbane Lions would like someone most likely connected with the club making that statement after just losing a big sponsor

I was only agreeing with the Thieving mongrels part not the post as a whole.
But possibly in a different context to his/her original post.

 

[Section 5]

I have no idea if YOUI charges way to much for what i assume looks like House Insurance premiums huge quotes
Also i have no connection to YOUI at all
However sometime you pay for what you get

It is not until you have a disaster that you find you are not covered for things
Most people underinsure their house and this can cause issues when a disaster strikes
All people can do is a bit of research, check there cover compared to others and get the best deal that covers them
Complain like briztoon and hope for a reduction in the premium

Off to Metricon now so hope i am happy on my drive home

 

[wantok]

I thank Neds for their timely sponsorship. It came at a time when we were not flying. We are all ultimately responsible for our own actions. What we put in our mouths what we drink who we spend our money with and whether we gamble or not. After a long career in Marketing at Executive level with some of Australia's largest Companies and Sponsors my experience is that Sponsorship decisions are primarily about brand choice. If it's an alcoholic beverage it's not about drinking alcohol it's about XXXX vs VB. If it's gambling it's Neds v TAB. The exception being a new product category. Something like the Afterpay introduction. Sponsorship is very difficult to find of course unless you are in Victoria where your Government just throws Taxpayers money around like confetti. If you don't like it just make your choice. It's not compulsory.



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[scoman]

I'm far more inclined to welcome sponsorships from mining and energy companies than I am betting and alcohol companies personally.

 

[briztoon]

I have no idea if YOUI charges way to much for what i assume looks like House Insurance premiums huge quotes
Also i have no connection to YOUI at all
However sometime you pay for what you get

It is not until you have a disaster that you find you are not covered for things
Most people underinsure their house and this can cause issues when a disaster strikes
All people can do is a bit of research, check there cover compared to others and get the best deal that covers them
Complain like briztoon and hope for a reduction in the premium

Off to Metricon now so hope i am happy on my drive home

I didn’t complain.

I did the quote over the phone, and pretty much word for word, my reply to their quote was, “that’s a fair bit higher than my current premium”.

And his response was, “let me have a quick look… I can drop it to $xxx”.

To which I replied “that’s still a couple of hundred more than the quote I have from aami”.

 

[scoman]

lol I did the same this year, and fell off my chair, when their quote came in higher than my current insurance.

They straight away knocked $400 off, but that was still above the best quote I had, from AAMI.

I have never bothered ringing them as, I assume, because I actually drive my car, that they wouldn't be able to help me

 

[Warwick]

I love a punt and slap as much as the next person (probably too much so), and I believe people should be responsible for their own actions, however… I would fully support the banning of gambling sites / agencies as sponsors.

 

[Dalions]

I love a punt and slap as much as the next person (probably too much so), and I believe people should be responsible for their own actions, however… I would fully support the banning of gambling sites / agencies as sponsors.

A ban of advertising the sites would be great too.
Everyone knows they are there so if they want them they will find them, without all of the advertising.

 

[spotthedog1]

Don't necessarily dis-agree with what you say but my main point is when will society start taking responsibility of bad behavior rather than blame coercion and lack of good decisions that relate to common sense. It seems that the population has lost that common sense responsibility and in the end, most responsible tax payers are the ones that have to pay for damage caused.
Cigarette adds have disappeared now for many years yet over 10% of our population still smoke even with the anti-smoking campaigns being put it front of us. Whoever smokes cigarette's these days should be made to pay for the damage it does to them, not taxpayers. The same principle applies to gambling in my opinion.
Just a quick rant...moving on now.

I don't disagree with you about the need for personal responsibility, however addiction is a tricky one and gambling potentially even more so.

I've seen suggestions around smokers paying their own medical bills if they started after a certain date. But are you aware of the recent proofs found that cigarette advertising (historical and current in countries without restrictive laws) is found to primarily target low- to middle-income area minors? Still today, the major aim of the big 4 is addicting minors. I'm all for personal responsibility, but how about some corporate responsibility too?

Gambling have issues too. I've been pleased that some AFL clubs are divesting themselves of pokies. Poker machines are actually scientifically designed to addict. Literally, they researched ways to activate reward and addiction pathways in the brain and made the machines target that. In 2021 poker machines took $11.4b Australia. About $420 per man, woman and child. I don't have figures for the average take per gambler, but it would in the thousands. And most gamblers aren't problem gamblers. They get almost all of their money from addicting people. Again- personal responsibility is necessary, but so is corporate responsibility, and there is none.

 

[spotthedog1]

I don't disagree with you about the need for personal responsibility, however addiction is a tricky one and gambling potentially even more so.

I've seen suggestions around smokers paying their own medical bills if they started after a certain date. But are you aware of the recent proofs found that cigarette advertising (historical and current in countries without restrictive laws) is found to primarily target low- to middle-income area minors? Still today, the major aim of the big 4 is addicting minors. I'm all for personal responsibility, but how about some corporate responsibility too?

Gambling have issues too. I've been pleased that some AFL clubs are divesting themselves of pokies. Poker machines are actually scientifically designed to addict. Literally, they researched ways to activate reward and addiction pathways in the brain and made the machines target that. In 2021 poker machines took $11.4b Australia. About $420 per man, woman and child. I don't have figures for the average take per gambler, but it would in the thousands. And most gamblers aren't problem gamblers. They get almost all of their money from addicting people. Again- personal responsibility is necessary, but so is corporate responsibility, and there is none.

Just as an aside - the Lions' pokie factory was set up in Springwood. As stated above, low-middle income areas are common targets for addiction centres, and we set ours up in Logan...

I'm sure the Suns were a factor in us trying to stretch our area south, to be fair, but I don't think it's an accident that we set up in Logan...

 

[Dalions]

Just as an aside - the Lions' pokie factory was set up in Springwood. As stated above, low-middle income areas are common targets for addiction centres, and we set ours up in Logan...

I'm sure the Suns were a factor in us trying to stretch our area south, to be fair, but I don't think it's an accident that we set up in Logan...

Might have also had a bit to do with cost of the initial set up.
As the club has never had endless amounts of cash hanging around.

 

[Warwick]

I’d like to see us get out of the pokie game as soon as we’re able to.

 

[The Flying Belgian]

I’d like to see us get out of the pokie game as soon as we’re able to.

Springfield should let us do that. Let's hope.

 

[Sherrinator]

Might have also had a bit to do with cost of the initial set up.
As the club has never had endless amounts of cash hanging around.

At the time, I think we had a disproportionate percentage of members in that area, too.

 

[Dalions]

At the time, I think we had a disproportionate percentage of members in that area, too.

I do remember reading that.

 

[briztoon]

At the time, I think we had a disproportionate percentage of members in that area, too.

You wouldn’t know it by walking in there.

Sure, it’s a Lions branded club, but the locals get pissed off if you ask the bar to switch a tv or the big screen to AFL.

 

[martinson]

Everyone these days seems to want to be a moral custodian of what others are or aren't allowed to do in their lives.

Take poker machines for instance. It's just my personal view that it's a tax on the poor and ignorant because if you stand there all day and play a poker machine it will take all of your money. But more people than you would think derive great enjoyment from playing poker machines without getting themselves into any duress and it's an enormous revenue source for organisations and governments where hopefully the money gets channeled into more altruistic causes.

Betting companies likewise. At least you have some hope of winning there. And the revenue for Governments is immense.

The Australia I grew up in was one where Aussies loved to have a bet . In rural areas particularly the pub and the racecourse were the lifeblood of the town.

Those days are diminishing and we're now becoming a country of nambie pambies with everyone from governments down to companies and SM blowhards telling us what we should think or do .

And much the lesser for it.

 

[The Flying Belgian]

The Australia I grew up in was one where Aussies loved to have a bet . In rural areas particularly the pub and the racecourse were the lifeblood of the town.

Those days are diminishing and we're now becoming a country of nambie pambies with everyone from governments down to companies and SM blowhards telling us what we should think or do .

And much the lesser for it.

I'm guessing the Australia you grew up in was similar to the one that I grew up in. I remember when casual and not-so-casual racism was rife, people died of lung cancer and people were beaten up because they happened to drift outside the cultural norms of the time.

Change isn't always a bad thing and the net effects on society mean sometimes people need to be told what they can and can't do.

 

[martinson]

I'm guessing the Australia you grew up in was similar to the one that I grew up in. I remember when casual and not-so-casual racism was rife, people died of lung cancer and people were beaten up because they happened to drift outside the cultural norms of the time.

Change isn't always a bad thing and the net effects on society mean sometimes people need to be told what they can and can't do.

The Western world is now full of politicians and applause junkies who feel they have the right to tell others what they can and can't do.

I'm yet to be dissuaded that less bad things happened when I was growing up than do now.

Things evolve and improve lives as you have pointed out as they need to.

Jacinta Adern gave a speech to the UN which absolutely horrified me and sadly got a receptive audience along the lines the Governments and elites know better than most of the people and they need to restrict what people see and hear.

I disagree most strongly that people sometimes need to be told what they can and can't do . We have laws and we have moral values which are hopefully passed on to our children. It's never going to be perfect. We're now taking it too far.

 

[briztoon]

Everyone these days seems to want to be a moral custodian of what others are or aren't allowed to do in their lives.

Take poker machines for instance. It's just my personal view that it's a tax on the poor and ignorant because if you stand there all day and play a poker machine it will take all of your money. But more people than you would think derive great enjoyment from playing poker machines without getting themselves into any duress and it's an enormous revenue source for organisations and governments where hopefully the money gets channeled into more altruistic causes.

Betting companies likewise. At least you have some hope of winning there. And the revenue for Governments is immense.

The Australia I grew up in was one where Aussies loved to have a bet . In rural areas particularly the pub and the racecourse were the lifeblood of the town.

Those days are diminishing and we're now becoming a country of nambie pambies with everyone from governments down to companies and SM blowhards telling us what we should think or do .

And much the lesser for it.

Just my opinion, but a lot of it appears government driven, to save on government spending.

Government can’t keep funding services to look after smokers, alcoholics, abuse victims and hungry individuals.

So we over tax such “luxuries”, and try and stop the damage and financial burden they inflict on society.

 

[JasRulz63]

New Balance?

 

[briztoon]

martinson are you aware that these gambling companies ban individuals if they WIN too much.

These companies aren’t offering everyone the same service.

They only want losers.

They keep, and share databases of banned gamblers who win more than they lose.

 

[Lets Roar like '44]

New Balance?

You’re good. No hang manning you!