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[tashibatts]

ST have just reported that Ottens did not attend richmond training as he wishes not to be at the club next year.. Geelong are desperate for Ottens.. as are the Kangaroos..

They said we were going to make a play for him- and Richmond will accept no less than 2 first round picks.

That is all.

Go Roos

 

[Long bombs to snake]

Good to hear! As i have stated in previous posts, Ottens is a man the club would be negligent not to chase hard after. Would help solve a problem down forward, maybe release Petrie down back as well as buying us time until Hale and McIntosh develop further. Simmonds would cost us $300-$350$ and i would prefer spending $400k on Ottens. Better Player and younger. Could have proven the differance in the close games against Carlton, Footscray x2, Adelaide and Geelong. Could be the differance between 8th and top 4.

As for his reported injury concerns, i recall Colbert spending 2-3 years on the sidelines and he is now a favorite of supporters and one of our best players. Mercenary? Ask Geelong fans their opinion of Colbert. My point is their is always 2 sides to the story. Chase hard roos!!

 

[NeoBlaze]

ST have just reported that Ottens did not attend richmond training as he wishes not to be at the club next year.. Geelong are desperate for Ottens.. as are the Kangaroos..

They said we were going to make a play for him- and Richmond will accept no less than 2 first round picks.

That is all.

Go Roos

well that's interesting news

 

[year of the roo]

No, thanks anyway.

 

[Moti]

2 draft picks.

Well, we have 1, and how about Sinclair and say Corey Jones? Wouldn't want to lose Jones so if we looked at Sinclair and pick 10, what else?

 

[Thewlis Dish]

Ottens accepted less money from Geelong over lucrative deals from Adelaide and Sydney. One wonders whether that's because he wants to stay in Victoria, or he just has a real preference towards the Cats.

We could offer more than Geelong in terms of a trade I reckon, but could we convince Brad to accept a trade here? Would 10, 26 and Sinclair for Ottens and their 3rd be too much to give up? He could push us into the top 6, or just be a waste of money.

 

[Long bombs to snake]

We could offer more than Geelong in terms of a trade I reckon, but could we convince Brad to accept a trade here?

As proved with Rawlings last year, does it really matter?

 

[tashibatts]

We don't want to go trading away all our draft picks.. we do have to pick up 2 (we already have JWS- he is the third) players from the draft.. and picking them up in the fifth round shouldnt really be our draft plan.


Go Roos

 

[Thewlis Dish]

As proved with Rawlings last year, does it really matter?

Do we have the top pick in the PSD?

 

[Long bombs to snake]

Do we have the top pick in the PSD?

Don't we have the 1st pick in the PSD? Thanks for pointing it out to me (In case you didn't realise i was being sarcastic) My point is that it isn't always the players decision as to where he goes. Or did you miss it?

 

[Thewlis Dish]

Don't we have the 1st pick in the PSD? Thanks for pointing it out to me (In case you didn't realise i was being sarcastic) My point is that it isn't always the players decision as to where he goes. Or did you miss it?

I was asking whether or not Ottens would accept a trade to us. Rawlings didn't accept a trade to anyone other than North, so I don't see the comparison. We have no other way of getting Ottens than via trade, so it's entirely dependant on whether or not Ottens would be willing to be traded to North assuming we strike a deal with the Tigers.

 

[Lenny*]

Don't we have the 1st pick in the PSD? Thanks for pointing it out to me (In case you didn't realise i was being sarcastic) My point is that it isn't always the players decision as to where he goes. Or did you miss it?

LoL!

Hows about,
Wells and ur second round pick for Ottens.

Considering ruchman values are doubles these days because of such low stocks and low talent in most clubs (not all-but most).

If kangaroos really want Ottens, we say the same thing to you people as we are to Geelong, Give up quality to receive quality.

Thankyou deal done see you next year.

 

[hurricane]

Thankyou deal done see you next year.

That was easy wasn't it. Saved you weeks of ********ting yourself about losing a top two draft pick for little in return...

 

[JMAC5]

Yeah Wells, Motlop and Harris for Zantuck and your 3rd round pick sounds good

Idiot

 

[scooby1279]

Good to hear we are after ottens. Also on Channel 9 they showed images of Simmonds and said that the roos are making simmonds there number 1 target at trade period. Awesome

 

[Long bombs to snake]

I was asking whether or not Ottens would accept a trade to us. Rawlings didn't accept a trade to anyone other than North, so I don't see the comparison.

Ultimately in the end he did to Footscray, against his initial wishes.

We have no other way of getting Ottens than via trade, so it's entirely dependant on whether or not Ottens would be willing to be traded to North assuming we strike a deal with the Tigers.

I agree somewhat. However there is an onus on Geelong to satisfy Richmond, as last year has shown, more so than the players preferred option. A scenario may be that North, or some other club other than Geelong, reaches a deal thereby forcing Ottens into the PSD or the club that Richmond has reached agreement with. Would he go to that club or perhaps to the Hawks via PSD?

Perhaps the key player in the whole trading period may be Boomer. While i would love to see him stay, if he doesn't he could be the key to land us, and a few other clubs, a big fish in the trading period. As usual it will be 4 days of friggin around and half a day of insanity.

 

[Shinboners]

Ottens accepted less money from Geelong over lucrative deals from Adelaide and Sydney. One wonders whether that's because he wants to stay in Victoria, or he just has a real preference towards the Cats.

There was an article in the Age saying that one reason for Ottens wanting to leave Richmond for Geelong is that he sees Richmond going through a rebuilding period which he doesn't want to go through whilst he feels he has a good chance of experiencing finals with Geelong. Also, Geelong don't have a true key forward, so there's a guaranteed role for him whilst the Swans have Hall as their key forward.

 

[Dingster]

There was an article in the Age saying that one reason for Ottens wanting to leave Richmond for Geelong is that he sees Richmond going through a rebuilding period which he doesn't want to go through whilst he feels he has a good chance of experiencing finals with Geelong. Also, Geelong don't have a true key forward, so there's a guaranteed role for him whilst the Swans have Hall as their key forward.

Interesting that he sees himself as a forward. Imagine Ottens camped out at FF with the delivery of guys. Frightening.

 

[Shinboners]

Interesting that he sees himself as a forward. Imagine Ottens camped out at FF with the delivery of guys. Frightening.

Oh, the comment about him playing forward was just my thoughts on the issue. It wasn't mentioned in the article.

Apologies for the confusion.

 

[Ausgard]

I would almost accept the first and 2nd round pick for ottens and no more than 400k contract.

The fact we get JWS makes it a lot more bearable - more like trading our 2nd and 3rd pick and getting bumped up the trade order.

Also would prefer not to trade any of our young stars so anyone who has played senior footy and was draft in 2000+ would probably annoy me.

Jess Sinclair wouldn't be too bad I guess but I would prefer to keep him as well.

Injuries still concern me. The fact he told Adelaide and Sydney to shove it is a positive to me as well. He's a South australian isn't he ?

That means the going home factor is less than the "staying where he is because he is settled" factor.

The might even be a positive for us because Geelong is a little further down the road and we have better picks than they do.

Interesting to see that we are chasing hard for both Simmonds and Ottens (according to reports) Must mean that Porter is definately on the Outer, McKernan isn't the solution and Hale/McIntosh won't be thrown to the wolves.

Obviously we won't get both of them - I still think I prefer simmonds because he is cheaper, more reliable (though less chance of Brilliance) and will cost less the get and keep.

NOW the trade period is getting me excited !!

 

[Dingster]

I watched Richmond play St.Kilda in one of the most uninspiring games of football ever, so I must admit to not seeing much of Ottens. The few times that I did see him, I wasn't impressed.

If we were to pick him up, I guess that his role would be like Corza's in the last few rounds. Given that Hale should play a lot more next year and we still have Corza and Porter for experienced players and guys like H coming through, do we really need him? If he was a gun I'd say yes, but I'm not convinced that he's the player we need for one and also that money could be better utilised.

 

[Moti]

It is the great thing about being a Roo supporter, we always have our hands in several honey pots this time of year.

 

[Shinboners]

Interesting to see that we are chasing hard for both Simmonds and Ottens (according to reports) Must mean that Porter is definately on the Outer, McKernan isn't the solution and Hale/McIntosh won't be thrown to the wolves.

Channel 9 said that Simmonds was our main target, whilst channel 10 and SEN said that Ottens was in our sights.

Obviously we won't get both of them - I still think I prefer simmonds because he is cheaper, more reliable (though less chance of Brilliance) and will cost less the get and keep.

Agree - I can't see how we can land both unless we're prepared to unload some good players or youngsters.

And I'd also prefer Simmonds on cost and I'm still wary about the state of Otten's back.

NOW the trade period is getting me excited !!

I'm not.

It's all tease and no paydirt.

 

[Wels Eicke]

There was an article in the Age saying that one reason for Ottens wanting to leave Richmond for Geelong is that he sees Richmond going through a rebuilding period which he doesn't want to go through whilst he feels he has a good chance of experiencing finals with Geelong. QUOTE]

If that's the case, it's a bit hard to see how we could convince him to come here. We're not exactly knocking the door down to play finals, (not top four anyway), which seems to be a big motivation for him. And fair enough too I reckon, if he sees Geelong as his best chance of finals glory.

Whether he gets there or not is a completely different question. Would be a good get for us though. I guess all will be revealed soon enough.

 

[nananana catman]

Ottens accepted less money from Geelong over lucrative deals from Adelaide and Sydney. One wonders whether that's because he wants to stay in Victoria, or he just has a real preference towards the Cats.

We could offer more than Geelong in terms of a trade I reckon, but could we convince Brad to accept a trade here? Would 10, 26 and Sinclair for Ottens and their 3rd be too much to give up? He could push us into the top 6, or just be a waste of money.

I read an article in the local Geelong paper this morning stating Ottens is "Hellbent on playing at Skilled Stadium next year", could be fact, or could be the journo pumping up the possibility of a key forward coming to Geelong. Realistically I think we know the answer to that.

Also, if the Richmond fans are anything to go by (which they probably arent, but Wallace and Miller have also said it) Two first round draft picks are required. Perhaps theyd take your first 2 because they are better than our first 2 and a player i'm not sure, but you might be in the same boat as us come trade week having to trade away some young talent for a first round pick. Dont know the Roos list very well but it appears that Geelong has more quality young midfielders that theyd be willing to trade away without losing much to their overall structure.