we all know skevs have pretty good support, how does xaviers support look like? what would be a rough estimate of the crowd be like?
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St Kevins vs Xavier, who will win and why?
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Xavier draw a crowd wherever they go.
Assumption - was in the country and there were several hundred there.
Scotch - Had well over a thousand present especially with the Old Xav playing Old Scotch afterwards.
Geelong College - Huge crowd with a packed grandstand on May time fair.
The finals at Xavier last year were massive - MGS and Scotch dragged a ton of people out.
Nothing can compare to the Scotch v MGS games though!
Assumption - was in the country and there were several hundred there.
Scotch - Had well over a thousand present especially with the Old Xav playing Old Scotch afterwards.
Geelong College - Huge crowd with a packed grandstand on May time fair.
The finals at Xavier last year were massive - MGS and Scotch dragged a ton of people out.
Nothing can compare to the Scotch v MGS games though!
What a load of crap mate! Why dont you guys get it? It is in xavier's mission statement to not give out scholarships its one of the ethos of the school. Perhaps this bloke was offered drought relief like xavier has done to many of borders not just the sportsman. In fact no offence to the borders but there isnt one oustanding sportsman at xavier who is border. Maybe a scholarship at St Kevins compared to a little drought relief was more appealing to this guys parents.
notorious_big
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Keep in mind if xavs lose to hailebury the skevs v xavs game may be a waste if skevs keep on winning. I think there will be a big crowd there. Who does everyone think will win? I reckon Xavs cause they have a reputation as being tough and have big hearts and thrive under pressure.
mainboardboycotter
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First of all, the first poster, mate if you go to Skevs, don't try and have a go at us when clearly Booth just rolled you with straight up facts. If you can show me a player who is on a scholarship in the 1s, bar drought help and the collaboration between St Marys and Xavier (None are in the 1s now) please do thanks guys. The best players Nick Wynne, Sam O'Sullivan, Sanfilippo, Noonan, Kennedy, Lees and Santilli etc have been at Xavier for the whole time. Additions such as Ulbrick and Ambrose have been at Xavier since Year 9. Ablett you say we give more than you and Scotch. Scotch also give out the Aborigine scholarships and seeing that they somehow got Cyril Rioli and Nathan Djerrkura is a little suss but I'm not going to go pointing the finger. I assume they also give out drought help. How exactly are they giving less out than us?Gablett said:
And St Kevins, please tell me about the amazing athletes for the APS aths and how they 'magically' popped up, the rugby players who just so happen to be Melbourne Storm academy boys and now you admit that footballers have money taken off their fees because they are GOOD.... that sounds to me like they are blatent sporting scholarships..... now explain that...
notorious_big
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After returning to this site after a long period of time i have discovered one certainty, as soon as the S word, scholarship is thrown up, the Xavier boys are always on the front foot to defend their school. Re read what you have said, ill give you credit and say you must be smarter than what you sound, after all, you go/went to Xavier HAHA. Your feel good stories regarding Xavier being such great community members, offering "relief" to the battlers who without the scholarship would never have entered your front gates makes me physically ill. When you enter the real world, outside that superficial bubble that is Xavier, you will realize that there is no such thing as a free lunch. Rightly so, give the indigenous lads a scholarship for being a good footy player, don’t try and polarize what it with some crap your principal has brainwashed you with.
I read on, your posts are very naive and wrong. You call St Kevin’s second rate, in what area? Footy? yes, cause that’s the reason you send your children to private school for! In previous years St Kevin’s has left you for dead academically. You talk of money a fair bit, not that it matters, but just remember that Kew is no Toorak champ…..
notorious_big
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After returning to this site after a long period of time i have discovered one certainty, as soon as the S word, scholarship is thrown up, the Xavier boys are always on the front foot to defend their school. Re read what you have said, ill give you credit and say you must be smarter than what you sound, after all, you go/went to Xavier HAHA. Your feel good stories regarding Xavier being such great community members, offering "relief" to the battlers who without the scholarship would never have entered your front gates makes me physically ill. When you enter the real world, outside that superficial bubble that is Xavier, you will realize that there is no such thing as a free lunch. Rightly so, give the indigenous lads a scholarship for being a good footy player, don’t try and polarize what it with some crap your principal has brainwashed you with.
I read on, your posts are very naive and wrong. You call St Kevin’s second rate, in what area? Footy? yes, cause that’s the reason you send your children to private school for! In previous years St Kevin’s has left you for dead academically. You talk of money a fair bit, not that it matters, but just remember that Kew is no Toorak champ…..
Could u be a bigger tossa? This is big footy, shgive a shit about academics. As for money, no one gives a shit but if u want the facts Scotch then Xavier are the weathiest schools. And how would you know that Xavier is superficial and the principle brain washes the students... If u dont go there. I could claim that SKevs teachers are involved in an underground bettting ring for all i know.. but thats just it, i wouldnt know, like u wouldnt know anything about Xavier. Lastly maybe Xavs ark up about scholarships because they pride themselves that they arent a cheating bag of shit team like St Kevs that gives them out... at least not in our firsts this year. Go home flashback... and take ur prejudices with u, u tip rat. Oh and one last thing, Come and see Xavier v Skevs this year... and watch ur players cry when they lose. And at the end of the year check how Xaviers year 12's have done... because they are the smartest for decades so will most likely sit atop the mighty skevs. Homma.
After returning to this site after a long period of time i have discovered one certainty, as soon as the S word, scholarship is thrown up, the Xavier boys are always on the front foot to defend their school. Re read what you have said, ill give you credit and say you must be smarter than what you sound, after all, you go/went to Xavier HAHA. Your feel good stories regarding Xavier being such great community members, offering "relief" to the battlers who without the scholarship would never have entered your front gates makes me physically ill. When you enter the real world, outside that superficial bubble that is Xavier, you will realize that there is no such thing as a free lunch. Rightly so, give the indigenous lads a scholarship for being a good footy player, don’t try and polarize what it with some crap your principal has brainwashed you with.
I read on, your posts are very naive and wrong. You call St Kevin’s second rate, in what area? Footy? yes, cause that’s the reason you send your children to private school for! In previous years St Kevin’s has left you for dead academically. You talk of money a fair bit, not that it matters, but just remember that Kew is no Toorak champ…..
Mate in the real world, outside of Toorak and the self righteous people who live there (apoligees for the generalisation it had to be made in this case) you would appreciate the troubles that the drought have caused and aboriginal situation. U sit there and you think you know everything and are all top shit. Give me a ****ing break pal. The fact remains that out of all aboriginal scholarships that Xavier has given out over the many years only one has ever played in the 1st 18 at aps level. So spare your crap. Maybe there is no such thing as a free lunch but assistance to people goes a long long way. You are so far removed that you know shit all. This is bigfooty and shouldnt be a moral argument but u r making it hard pal
Your are the model Xavier boy caught in the bubble, you are kidding if you dont think people "know" or can have an opinion of the place without having to attend it, your school produces a few hundred each year, its enough and that blantant to form a pretty good judgement of the place.
Thanks for the heads up on Xaviers sizeable purse, typical trait of the old xavier boys, short hands, deep pockets.
Will make it down to the game this week. If you can remember back in 2001, Xavier v St Kevins at SKC, one of the biggest games in APS history, now Xavier were victors but it was a great game. Dont think this will come close, no Ball and watson for Xavier or no O'Keefe(RIP), Irish for skevs.
you talk of drought and the aboriginal situation as reasons for giving up of assistance. yes you may be right, but what about the Stock brokers with children at Xavier when the stock market crashs, will there be assitance? i wouldnt say so. Its a nice thing to do for someone, but in reality its a great big PR excerise for the school and makes a nice addition to newsletters etc
ahhh flashback, so wise.. why isnt there more genious minds like yours!.. im going with st.kevins here, watched them against brighton and was just amazed at their intensity around the footy, blokes like newman and sullivan in midfield give so much, whilst the big tamouridies just gets the dish out sprints his 10m in 0.03 seconds and delivers. Not to mention the two big men holding down CHB n FB, Chivers just floats around taking anything bombed in, while Kennedy another level above everyone else, so much class and poise from a kid in his first year of 18s. rock ape signing out! raaa
none of what i have sed is pig headed at all, as it is not as though i denegrated ur school in any way, i simply sed we would beat u.
as opposed to u, who decides to call us second rate catholics etc.
and then u mentioned about blowing up incidents completely (david hicks etc), sounds alot like ur school bitching about scholarships to me.
ur answer to what i sed about the general consensus at xavier being that they have a monopoly on footy scholarships is irrelevent as this thread isnt even about scholarships at all, as it clearly reads "St Kevin's vs Xavier, who will win and why?"
but no, u had to go completely off topic and go on a tangent about the completely regurgitated topic of scholarhips; adding weight to my argument of ur rationalisation; by which i mean desperately trying to find reasons why we will beat u apart from the fact that we have been lucky enough to have a team this year that is simply better than urs.
if ur still not convinced about that word i seriously suggest u look it up in the dictionary under "R"
the fact that ud even suggest the pope would dance around in a wheelie bin is just plain stupid.
and i thought that catholic standards are meant for everyone to know, not only for the pope to be privy to, otherwise whats the point of a religion. i thought it was to worship a deity and adhere to the values that
that deity has pronounced (i.e the bible), i mean comeone, what u sed was just really dumb there, r u saying that we there's no such thing as the bible, or the ten commandments, or sunday school or religious education etc. i thought u might have been taught that already.
anyway, i think that has pretty much dismantled ur argument, so good day to you sir.
tall poppy syndrome refers to people wanting successful people/things to fail simply becasue they are successful, fair enuff, xavier were treated unfairly with the whole drugs and wheelie bin things, similar things would have happened at most APS schools, i can agree with u there that it was blown out of proportion.
yet, i think ur attitude towards skev's success also falls under the ubrella of tall poppy syndrome, so i wouldnt start getting to fired up on that topic.
The SKC vs XC rivalry really peaked in the mid-1990's, but has been very lopsided XC way since then.
SKC hadn't beaten Xav's in 12 years and then thumped them at home by 84 pts in 1995. The following year SKC and XC played arguably the best match in the history of the two schools at the Roche Oval. SKC got up in the dying seconds by 4 pts. Xavier captain was crying after the game.
It was the first time Xav's had lost at home in close to 13 years.
First time SKC had won at Xavier and the first time SKC had beaten XC two years in a row.
XC had their revenge the following year by being the only team to defeat SKC in their one and only premiership year and have won fairly easily every year since.
Hopefully another close contest this week.
SKC hadn't beaten Xav's in 12 years and then thumped them at home by 84 pts in 1995. The following year SKC and XC played arguably the best match in the history of the two schools at the Roche Oval. SKC got up in the dying seconds by 4 pts. Xavier captain was crying after the game.
It was the first time Xav's had lost at home in close to 13 years.
First time SKC had won at Xavier and the first time SKC had beaten XC two years in a row.
XC had their revenge the following year by being the only team to defeat SKC in their one and only premiership year and have won fairly easily every year since.
Hopefully another close contest this week.
mainboardboycotter
Team Captain
Please don't tell me you are that thick....
I applied for an academic scholarship back in year 7 as did many. There are scholarship tests academic and music every year. That does not mean they are offering sport scholarships....
Darc21
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none of what i have sed is pig headed at all, as it is not as though i denegrated ur school in any way, i simply sed we would beat u.
as opposed to u, who decides to call us second rate catholics etc.
and then u mentioned about blowing up incidents completely (david hicks etc), sounds alot like ur school bitching about scholarships to me.
ur answer to what i sed about the general consensus at xavier being that they have a monopoly on footy scholarships is irrelevent as this thread isnt even about scholarships at all, as it clearly reads "St Kevin's vs Xavier, who will win and why?"
but no, u had to go completely off topic and go on a tangent about the completely regurgitated topic of scholarhips; adding weight to my argument of ur rationalisation; by which i mean desperately trying to find reasons why we will beat u apart from the fact that we have been lucky enough to have a team this year that is simply better than urs.
if ur still not convinced about that word i seriously suggest u look it up in the dictionary under "R"
the fact that ud even suggest the pope would dance around in a wheelie bin is just plain stupid.
and i thought that catholic standards are meant for everyone to know, not only for the pope to be privy to, otherwise whats the point of a religion. i thought it was to worship a deity and adhere to the values that
that deity has pronounced (i.e the bible), i mean comeone, what u sed was just really dumb there, r u saying that we there's no such thing as the bible, or the ten commandments, or sunday school or religious education etc. i thought u might have been taught that already.
anyway, i think that has pretty much dismantled ur argument, so good day to you sir.
Yawn! Aren't you glad you got that off your chest? The difference between you and I is that I actually take a rational look at things and can take the lighter approach. Your stance towards Skevs 'beating' Xavier was from a Pig Headed perspective and if you can't see that then don't even bother trying to identify if someone else is Pig Headed. In regards to the monopoly argument being irrelevant, I couldn't agree more, but if I remember correctly were you not the one who brought the subject up? And don't even suggest that I was the instigator of scholarship talks on this thread champ because it was discussed long before I even began posting. And yes my calling Skevs second rate catholics was out of line, as any one who follows the religion is on equal footing. And I am familiar with the definition of rationalise, but I'm touched that you went to the effort to explain it for me. My point was that why would I rationalise or 'find reasons' why Skevs will beat Xavier when it is quite clear that I am a Xaverian. You would think it more likely that I rationalise why Xavier will beat Skevs hmmm? And then yet again, you come out with a pig headed statement, that being that the Skevs side is better than Xavier! The two teams haven't played yet....how can you make that judgement? And in regards to the pope, just a dabble in the lighter side of things as people like yourself take this site far too seriously. And to answer your question, no I'm not saying that there isn't such thing as the bible and the ten commandments, but the fact that you needed to bring something as irrelevant as that up flatters me as it clearly means you had to spin some elaborate story to prove your point. And as for Catholic values, and all that not just the pope being privy to it blah blah blah, my point was that I was inquiring if the person was in a position to judge another on Catholic values and the way they live them. Isn't that what Judgement day is for? So unless that bloke is Jesus come to judge the living and the dead then I'm afraid I can't take him seriously. Just remantled my argument. Have a Shitty day Sir!
why arent they playing??
yeh why arent they? haha if thats true skevs will lose no doubt. looks like a more even contest for the premiership than before
no u werent the instigator, but u still had to weigh into the scholarship argument off ur own accord didnt u?
the only reason i sed that skevs would beat xavier is because i believe that st kevin's has the better list this yr as well as the home ground advantage (as well as of course, my own biased sentamentality, something that any passionate catholic possesses), i apologise if i came across as arrogant and as i liked to phrase "pig headed," as i did not intend to.
ur rambling on about scholarships is giving an excuse (rationalising) {rationalising means to take comfort in false/irrelevent thought I.e. scholarships etc} as to why ull lose, hopefully for you (and your faring on ur next SAC), ull get it thrid time lucky! if so, there's still hope for you yet!
I misinterpereted the whole catholicism issue, my mistake.
i wont respond to the rest of ur argument as it is of no substance and merely hides behind a rhetoric of sarcasm, that, while being very funny and droll, merely deflects attention away from ur own argument's defficientcies!
so finally, could i get an answer off you in relevence to the actual thread, im guessing ur tipping xavier, but by how much? (dont worry i wont debate ur decision, as that would be PIG HEADED!)
thought the "have a shitty day sir!" bit was a bit unneccessary, so i wont repay the favour.
have a good night.
