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Stephen Milne is at the crossroads.

Do St Kilda really need him? Time and time again, he has proved to be brittle under real pressure (eg. Port Power). Defencively, he is non-existent. Doesn't tackle, doesn't chase, just doesn't do the one percenters.

St Kilda can cover for him anyway. If I had a choice between Milne and Guerra, I'd take Guerra. Not because of his so called 'toughness', just that he is a better player than Milne. Guerra might've poleaxed Schammer, but that isn't tough. Tough is what Archer does, what Riewoldt does, and what Ling does. As for what Guerra did to Ling, that is NOT tough, that's just weak. He should've got 5 for that.

Cheers fellas, have a good one.
 

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flagfor05 said:
Stephen Milne is at the crossroads.

Do St Kilda really need him? Time and time again, he has proved to be brittle under real pressure (eg. Port Power). Defencively, he is non-existent. Doesn't tackle, doesn't chase, just doesn't do the one percenters.

St Kilda can cover for him anyway. If I had a choice between Milne and Guerra, I'd take Guerra. Not because of his so called 'toughness', just that he is a better player than Milne. Guerra might've poleaxed Schammer, but that isn't tough. Tough is what Archer does, what Riewoldt does, and what Ling does. As for what Guerra did to Ling, that is NOT tough, that's just weak. He should've got 5 for that.

Cheers fellas, have a good one.
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Yeah mate that was the weirdest post i have ever seen :confused:
And based on performances this year i would take milne far before guerra you must remember that milne kicked 46 goals to guerra's 29. Milne has had more possesions alwell although still not a lot, but enough for a forward pocket.
Sure guerra does add some muscle but who needs that in a side with hamill, gherig, baker, and a lot of other hard ball get players like hayes and ball
 
Arsene Wenger said:
thats funny that u say baker
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Very underated tagger and tough nut of our side every other stKilda supporter would agree with me that he wears his man like a glove ever letting them get over 10 possesions whilst he averages this year about 15 or 16, which isn't bad for a tagger. Almost always at the bottom of the pack with Luke ball
 
flagfor05 said:
Stephen Milne is at the crossroads.

Do St Kilda really need him? Time and time again, he has proved to be brittle under real pressure (eg. Port Power). Defencively, he is non-existent. Doesn't tackle, doesn't chase, just doesn't do the one percenters.

St Kilda can cover for him anyway. If I had a choice between Milne and Guerra, I'd take Guerra. Not because of his so called 'toughness', just that he is a better player than Milne. Guerra might've poleaxed Schammer, but that isn't tough. Tough is what Archer does, what Riewoldt does, and what Ling does. As for what Guerra did to Ling, that is NOT tough, that's just weak. He should've got 5 for that.

Cheers fellas, have a good one.
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I suppose karate chops to Riewoldts throat 100 metres behoind play are full of toughness and grit, though, in your book. :rolleyes:

For the record, everyone got on Milnes case last year, too. I didn't appreciate it then, and I don't now, especially for a non-Saints supporter.

The old proverb about removing the plank from your own eye before commenting on the speck in your brothers eye is apt here.
 
Milne is an integral part of the team when he is up and firing kciking about 20 goals in the preseason and then again a few bags of 4,5 and 6 during the season. His absence in the brisbane final was one we could have done wihout the amount of times the ball went to ground in forward 50 when gherig and riewoldt had 2 even 3 players on them, it shows that he is really needed.

Guerra has this year however only had one good game where he kicked 7 goals, but seriously Penny could have kicked a bag from full back that day against WEst Coast.

Moreover IMO they should both be there as they are the best crummers we have sure there may be montagna, clarkes, murray or even an onballer resting like ball, they are still no where near kicking the amount of goals that milne and guerra have this year
 
Milne kicked about 50 goals as a specialist forward pocket, what a terrible result. :rolleyes:

I don't think some people realise just how difficult it is to kick goals on a consistent basis from that position. Phil Matera is one of the few players that has been able to do it.

Perhaps his work ethic needs to be improved but I reckon he's worked hard to improve that side of his game as well.

Keeping in mind what he had to go through before the season started and then getting dropped from the team late in the season, to fight back and play a crucial role in our semi-final win was a great effort.

He may not be an automatic inclusion but I reckon he adds the necessary variety to what will hopefully become a formiddable forward line.
 
sainter said:
Milne kicked about 50 goals as a specialist forward pocket, what a terrible result. :rolleyes:

He may not be an automatic inclusion but I reckon he adds the necessary variety to what will hopefully become a formiddable forward line.
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I think Milne kicked 46 goals this year. Our leading goal kicker (Kent Kingsley) kicked 48.

I hardly think Milne is a bad player! His statistics speak for themselves. And I agree with Sainter, that he's a great asset to your lineup.
I can't wait to see how he comes out firing in 2005!
 

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milney is a great player, yes he has his ups and downs just like every other player but when hes on fire hes unstoppable. and some say hes only good at telstra but we must play about 16 games at td so 16/22 good games sure isnt bad..and id like to see u name another small forward thats just as good apart from matera who i might add spends some time at full foward too.
and dakota its good to see someone from the opposition see his good points coz im always hearin ppl from other clubs baggin him.

go yapper and tha saintas! cant wait 2 see ya fire in '05!
 
When the saints are winning by 6+ goals, milne tends to dominate. In close games and losses, milne does absolutely bugger all.

Chicken or Egg? I'd say milne plays like crud when he's under any sort of defensive pressure. This is why he was good early in his career, then when teams wisened up and put a half decent defender on him, bye-bye form.
 
sainter12riewoldt said:
i will take Milne because Guerra gets reported to much so in the long term milney will be better.
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I know the saying is "once is too many", but it hardly applies here.

I like Guerra and Milne both, but I like Guerras hardness at the ball and the willingness to iron someone out for the good of the team. Perfect example - his bump on that skinny little Freo guy in R7. It shell-shocked the Dockers (1 goal in first Q, no score at all in second) and drove us to a 50 point half time lead. But Milney is creative and the most exciting player in the comp. when he gets his hands on the ball and has space to work with.

It is a tie, depends on personal prefrence, really.
 
riccardo said:
I know the saying is "once is too many", but it hardly applies here.

I like Guerra and Milne both, but I like Guerras hardness at the ball and the willingness to iron someone out for the good of the team. Perfect example - his bump on that skinny little Freo guy in R7. It shell-shocked the Dockers (1 goal in first Q, no score at all in second) and drove us to a 50 point half time lead. But Milney is creative and the most exciting player in the comp. when he gets his hands on the ball and has space to work with.

It is a tie, depends on personal prefrence, really.
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Yea Ric your correct - Sent Schammer straight to the bench :D
 
flagfor05 said:
Stephen Milne is at the crossroads.

Do St Kilda really need him? Time and time again, he has proved to be brittle under real pressure (eg. Port Power). Defencively, he is non-existent. Doesn't tackle, doesn't chase, just doesn't do the one percenters.

St Kilda can cover for him anyway. If I had a choice between Milne and Guerra, I'd take Guerra. Not because of his so called 'toughness', just that he is a better player than Milne. Guerra might've poleaxed Schammer, but that isn't tough. Tough is what Archer does, what Riewoldt does, and what Ling does. As for what Guerra did to Ling, that is NOT tough, that's just weak. He should've got 5 for that.



Why do you come in here trying to stir ppl up u frigging troll. Get on ur own forum and worry about ur own dumbass players as for ling he should be made accountable for all the nightmares he causes kids with his UGLY friggen FACE
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