News Stevie Motlop signs with Southern Districts NTFL

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He does his job as a half forward and runs hard all day. He has had some fantastic moments in a Port jumper (“flashpoint Stevie Motlop” is one I will always remember and be grateful for).

However, I spoke to Daniel Motlop when Steve was 17- he said Steve will be the best Motlop. At least in a Port jumper, that hasn’t come true. He hasn’t taken games apart and if he has been BOG, I can’t remember it. Unless Steve does something remarkable in the last half of 2022, he will likely be delisted and Daniel will remain the best Motlop.
 
Steven Motlop of the Port Adelaide Power Career AFL Stats

Look at his stat lines go through the floor when he came to Port. Worse in every category, yet Geelong were happy to get rid of him for his conditional efforts. I didn't want him when they did the trade and I think that's been vindicated.

Also poor coaching probably comes in, there's no other reason he should have gone backwards so far when moving clubs.
 
sobrave said:
Steven Motlop of the Port Adelaide Power Career AFL Stats

Look at his stat lines go through the floor when he came to Port. Worse in every category, yet Geelong were happy to get rid of him for his conditional efforts. I didn't want him when they did the trade and I think that's been vindicated.

Also poor coaching probably comes in, there's no other reason he should have gone backwards so far when moving clubs.
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sobrave said:
Steven Motlop of the Port Adelaide Power Career AFL Stats

Look at his stat lines go through the floor when he came to Port. Worse in every category, yet Geelong were happy to get rid of him for his conditional efforts. I didn't want him when they did the trade and I think that's been vindicated.

Also poor coaching probably comes in, there's no other reason he should have gone backwards so far when moving clubs.
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And in a game plan that should perfectly suit a small forward.

Just get at Dixon's feet FFS. Every ball goes there and moat hit the ground.
 
Enviable Tradition said:
And in a game plan that should perfectly suit a small forward.

Just get at Dixon's feet FFS. Every ball goes there and moat hit the ground.
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When Essendon were going to the southern end, can't remember if it was 2nd or last quarter, within maybe a couple of minutes, maybe less the ball went to a pack, there were spoils/off hands and our small/medium defenders were in perfect, front and centre positions and cleared the ball each time. Everytime I said to myself front and centre, unlike our small/medium forwards.

5 or so minutes after this three-peat, we went forward in our classic bomb it to Charlie mode, I reckon Charlie wasn't in the pack this time, and Motlop was in no-mans land when the ball came off hands, you guessed it, front and centre. I thought, what a bloody contrast.
 
Motlop is one of too many players that have lasted on our list for too long over too many years. Motlop is out of contract at the end of the year and will be pushing 32 at the start of next season. His best, whenever it was, is well behind him and that is reason enough to delist him.
 
raptalia said:
Motlop is one of too many players that have lasted on our list for too long over too many years. Motlop is out of contract at the end of the year and will be pushing 32 at the start of next season. His best, whenever it was, is well behind him and that is reason enough to delist him.
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Further to my post...

If we are going nowhere in 2022 and we delist Motlop at the end of the year, as we should, what is the point in continuing to pick him ? Of course the answer is the Coach believes we can still make the finals and Steven Motlop has always been one of Ken's pet projects.
 

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I know he has not produced what we have expected but in all fairness Motlop was a mid at Geelong, Hinkley has him as a high half forward.
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Let's not make excuses, Motlop played forward as much as he played in the midfield at Geelong. In fact in 2013 he booted 44 goals and kicked 38 in 2016 and 26 in 2012 and again in 2015. He kicked 173 goals in 7 seasons for the Cats but for Port he has kicked 54 goals in 4 and a half seasons. That is what is so infuriating about Motlop's time with us- he has not kicked the goals he did at Geelong.
 
raptalia said:
Let's not make excuses, Motlop played forward as much as he played in the midfield at Geelong. In fact in 2013 he booted 44 goals and kicked 38 in 2016 and 26 in 2012 and again in 2015. He kicked 173 goals in 7 seasons for the Cats but for Port he has kicked 54 goals in 4 and a half seasons. That is what is so infuriating about Motlop's time with us- he has not kicked the goals he did at Geelong.
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It's not exactly apples for apples - scoring continually drops in the AFL every season (heck, one of those seasons was 17 games and 16 minute quarters) and we're absolutely a leading club as far as dour, defensive football goes.

There would've been plenty of days out at the Cattery where the team kicked 25 goals and Stevie had the opportunity to fill his boots.
 
raptalia said:
Let's not make excuses, Motlop played forward as much as he played in the midfield at Geelong. In fact in 2013 he booted 44 goals and kicked 38 in 2016 and 26 in 2012 and again in 2015. He kicked 173 goals in 7 seasons for the Cats but for Port he has kicked 54 goals in 4 and a half seasons. That is what is so infuriating about Motlop's time with us- he has not kicked the goals he did at Geelong.
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I agree with most of this but the whole team has been playing at that level apart for a few like SPP, Burton, Clurey, Boak & Wines. So his drop in form is in line with the teams drop in form, so what I am saying here is that this is beyond the players now and the coaching panel have to take some responsibility.

It's to easy to pick apart an individual like we used to with Bonner and Boak until he was played in his natural position.
Agreed, Motlop should have more personal pride in his own game, he's no Travis Boak but this team is coached so poorly it's not a surprise that a lot of players have lost form.
This is what coaching is all about, getting the best out of your players but sadly Ken doesn't instill that in our players by not dropping them when required, it's the same as his coaching, we will keep rolling along in the same manner and eventually it will work, the players now believe this garbage too and think they are doing a good job.

Darcy Byrne Jones is a classic example of this, has been poor all year and allowed to play at the highest level without consequence.

A high level of work effort and attitutude is a must to succeed at this level, like our own kids, if we do not instill work effort, discipline, into them they will not set that as a standard in life. Unfortunately players get paid a lot of cash these days so it comes to them much easier than it used too.
 
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Thanks for putting me straight. Motlop's inconsistent form is not really his fault but the fault of everyone else in the side. The fact is to have kicked the number of goals he kicked at Geelong Motlop had to have played forward at some stage and to say that he was playing in the midfield at Geelong is plain wrong. You want to blame Hinkley, Darcy Byrne Jones and everyone else bar the man himself, let's stop makes excuses for a guy who has not lived up to expectations.
 
raptalia said:
Thanks for putting me straight. Motlop's inconsistent form is not really his fault but the fault of everyone else in the side. The fact is to have kicked the number of goals he kicked at Geelong Motlop had to have played forward at some stage and to say that he was playing in the midfield at Geelong is plain wrong. You want to blame Hinkley, Darcy Byrne Jones and everyone else bar the man himself, let's stop makes excuses for a guy who has not lived up to expectations.
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Not making excuses for him, just pointing out the drop in form of most of our players.
Motlop is probably one of those lazy players that needs some ones foot up is arse all the time. What I mean is if the coach keeps selecting him when he clearly should be dropped, that sends the wrong message to him, it's saying keep doing what you are doing Motts, he thinks he's going okay.

An example of what I mean is Koch, he keeps giving Ken extensions and credit for poor performance, so Ken laps it up, Koch is more to blame here.
 
Us against the rest said:
Not making excuses for him, just pointing out the drop in form of most of our players.
Motlop is probably one of those lazy players that needs some ones foot up is arse all the time. What I mean is if the coach keeps selecting him when he clearly should be dropped, that sends the wrong message to him, it's saying keep doing what you are doing Motts, he thinks he's going okay.

An example of what I mean is Koch, he keeps giving Ken extensions and credit for poor performance, so Ken laps it up, Koch is more to blame here.
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Fair enough, I get where you are coming from. I think Motlop is past getting a boot up the arse I think he has reached the, 'shut the door on your way out' stage. I think back to 2017 when we signed Steven, many of us thought he would be 'icing on the cake' and a player who would add to our scoring ability but it has not worked out that way. Motlop is no orphan in our disappointment file as we signed Watts, Rockliff and Motlop over two years and unfortunately none of them really worked out.

I also take your point about Ken's blind faith in some players and closed eyes on others. I would have thought we are at a stage where a young guy like Dylan Williams could be give another chance at Motlop's expense.
 
raptalia said:
Fair enough, I get where you are coming from. I think Motlop is past getting a boot up the arse I think he has reached the, 'shut the door on your way out' stage. I think back to 2017 when we signed Steven, many of us thought he would be 'icing on the cake' and a player who would add to our scoring ability but it has not worked out that way. Motlop is no orphan in our disappointment file as we signed Watts, Rockliff and Motlop over two years and unfortunately none of them really worked out.

I also take your point about Ken's blind faith in some players and closed eyes on others. I would have thought we are at a stage where a young guy like Dylan Williams could be give another chance at Motlop's expense.
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Williams is the player i want to see play 5 or 6 games in a row so we can see what he can do over an extended period and also it will be a confidence booster for him to settle in at AFL level.
 
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When a player is Motlop's age then there's two questions to ask:
1. Is he going to be a part of our next flag attempt?
2. If not is him playing helping those who will be?

The answer to both of those is no. Boak and Gray, although not likely to be answering yes to 1, still provide enough guidance and support to be a Yes for 2. Motlop doesn't, so whether he's best 22 or not, playing him and those other players in the same boat (Jonas, Lycett when fit) is 'at best' treading water. At worst denying games to players, who whilst not going to give as much output right now, with games into them can help get us to our next flag.
 
3 disposals lol. Absolutely invisible.

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