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Expansion Tasmanian AFL team bid website: tassiefootyteam.com.au
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Re: Tasmanian AFL team bid webdite: tassiefootyteam.com.au
Yep if you want a Tassie team register your support there, and if you'd buy membership there's a option for that too.
Yep if you want a Tassie team register your support there, and if you'd buy membership there's a option for that too.
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Re: Tasmanian AFL team bid webdite: tassiefootyteam.com.au
The only way they are going to get a team is if a Melbourne team fold or if they all join up as members of a Melbourne club and vote to relocate.
The only way they are going to get a team is if a Melbourne team fold or if they all join up as members of a Melbourne club and vote to relocate.
Re: Tasmanian AFL team bid webdite: tassiefootyteam.com.au
Which is probably what they're banking on. If 2 Melbourne clubs merge, then the AFL are going to want a team to replace them pretty bloody quickly. Tassie is capable of doing that.
Which is probably what they're banking on. If 2 Melbourne clubs merge, then the AFL are going to want a team to replace them pretty bloody quickly. Tassie is capable of doing that.
Re: Tasmanian AFL team bid webdite: tassiefootyteam.com.au
And what if the Gold Coast team has to fold or relocate ?
Anyway, I've pledged my support.
And what if the Gold Coast team has to fold or relocate ?
Anyway, I've pledged my support.
I'm spreading this one around at work (a school in Qld!)...half of them won't have any idea what they've just signed up for...
As the GF didn't when I just told her she'd joined the petition...if they ring up for confirmation, she's to reply "it's time"...and if they quiz her any further, she's to say "what are you - a mainlander...?" in her most condescending voice...for a Qlder, she's coming along nicely...
As the GF didn't when I just told her she'd joined the petition...if they ring up for confirmation, she's to reply "it's time"...and if they quiz her any further, she's to say "what are you - a mainlander...?" in her most condescending voice...for a Qlder, she's coming along nicely...
Re: Tasmanian AFL team bid webdite: tassiefootyteam.com.au
I'll put my name down. It's a shame Tasmania doesn't have a team in the comp, yet NSW and QLD are being pushed into as potention growth markets - Tasmania is already a fully set market who follow the game!
I'll put my name down. It's a shame Tasmania doesn't have a team in the comp, yet NSW and QLD are being pushed into as potention growth markets - Tasmania is already a fully set market who follow the game!
I'd urge people NOT to support it. As much as i'd love AFL in Tassie I think the State Government should look it fixing our health and education systems first. I'd hate for a player to be seriously injured in a game but unable to get a bed in our overcrowded hospitals.
AFL in Tassie: It's not time yet.
AFL in Tassie: It's not time yet.
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Tasmania like it or not adds nothing for the existing teams, it wont increase TV revenue because it's ratings generally don't count and even if they do they are already covered. There is no growth to be had in Tasmania. Tasmania is low risk - no reward. Both QLD and NSW offer greater potential in all areas, players, TV money, exposure ect.
All Tasmania has going for it is that its a footy state and a belief that they deserve a team, it may tug at the heart strings but the reality is that it isn't enough.
In a perfect world they would have a team but no such world exists.
If they got a team where would it be based? Would both sides of the state attend games? Would they have to have 2 venues? Can they really afford it in the long term?
Tasmania like it or not adds nothing for the existing teams, it wont increase TV revenue because it's ratings generally don't count and even if they do they are already covered. There is no growth to be had in Tasmania. Tasmania is low risk - no reward. Both QLD and NSW offer greater potential in all areas, players, TV money, exposure ect.
All Tasmania has going for it is that its a footy state and a belief that they deserve a team, it may tug at the heart strings but the reality is that it isn't enough.
In a perfect world they would have a team but no such world exists.
If they got a team where would it be based? Would both sides of the state attend games? Would they have to have 2 venues? Can they really afford it in the long term?
Re: Tasmanian AFL team bid webdite: tassiefootyteam.com.au
1.Logic would suggest Launceston, but not if AFL Tas (Scott Wade) has anything to with it.
2.No
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4.We can't even afford it short term.
1.Logic would suggest Launceston, but not if AFL Tas (Scott Wade) has anything to with it.
2.No
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4.We can't even afford it short term.
It never will be time. Tassie has a virtually stagnant population and economy, and would not come close to being able to afford a team now. As time goes on, Tassie's ability to fund a side will only get worse.
In terms of football heritage, Tassie is absolutely deserving. In the things that count in the eyes of the AFL, ability to grow the game and/or fund a side, bringing Tassie in would be the same as bringing in Williamstown.
The fact that the state government has to put the bid together says a lot. There simply isn't the interest in Tasmania, either from the local businesses (who are quite happy to use taxpayer funds to prop it up and get the tourist dollars, but don't seem willing to pledge anything themselves) or from outside investing in a low population, low wealth market, to sustain a team. Even if all 480k or so lived in one population catchment, Tassie couldn't work. As it is, with the least centralised population of any state its laughable. Or it would be if so much taxpayer money and government energy wasn't being wasted on it.
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Re: Tasmanian AFL team bid webdite: tassiefootyteam.com.au
there'd be more support for a Tasmanian team than a western sydney team in my eyes, although i think both can survive in the competition.
i would also think a third perth team will come in eventually to form a 20 team competition in the not to distant future (prob by around 2020).
there'd be more support for a Tasmanian team than a western sydney team in my eyes, although i think both can survive in the competition.
i would also think a third perth team will come in eventually to form a 20 team competition in the not to distant future (prob by around 2020).
Good luck to them - would love to see it happen, but would be very surprised if it actually came about.
If nothing else, something needs to be done about the state of local footy in that state. It's a shame that it has been so rooted up.
If nothing else, something needs to be done about the state of local footy in that state. It's a shame that it has been so rooted up.
Re: Tasmanian AFL team bid webdite: tassiefootyteam.com.au
I didn't say it would be an overly successful team, but they are capable of mobilising a reasonable number of supporters fairly quickly. The team wouldn't be playing in front of empty stands with no support.
I didn't say it would be an overly successful team, but they are capable of mobilising a reasonable number of supporters fairly quickly. The team wouldn't be playing in front of empty stands with no support.
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I'm on board.
GO TASSIE!
GO TASSIE!
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Signed up would rather tassie had a team then West sydney i reckon they would have great support
Re: Tasmanian AFL team bid webdite: tassiefootyteam.com.au
And Tassie can't raise the sponsorship money locally and is of little interest for national and international firms, is worth nothing in TV rights, and has no prospects of the finances ever improving. Think half of Fitzroy's finances and you're getting close.
Tassie sure has football heritage, and is AFL dominated like no other state, but these things actually count against it because the AFL already draws every available dollar out of the state anyway.
If the AFL is prepared to fund a side, in perpetuity, to the degree that inital help will be needed for WS; and for that side to add zero supporters to the league and the game as a whole; then by all means Tas is viable.
If not, then it isn't. I see no prospect of the AFL doing that for zero additional TV revenue and zero growth of the game.
In terms of "deserving" a side, sure; in terms of paying for a side, no chance at all. In terms of having the administration in place to trust with anything more than a forged five dollar note, absolutely not.
It wouldn't be playing in front of empty stands, provided capacity remained no more than 25k, but it would be playing with no support.
And Tassie can't raise the sponsorship money locally and is of little interest for national and international firms, is worth nothing in TV rights, and has no prospects of the finances ever improving. Think half of Fitzroy's finances and you're getting close.
Tassie sure has football heritage, and is AFL dominated like no other state, but these things actually count against it because the AFL already draws every available dollar out of the state anyway.
If the AFL is prepared to fund a side, in perpetuity, to the degree that inital help will be needed for WS; and for that side to add zero supporters to the league and the game as a whole; then by all means Tas is viable.
If not, then it isn't. I see no prospect of the AFL doing that for zero additional TV revenue and zero growth of the game.
In terms of "deserving" a side, sure; in terms of paying for a side, no chance at all. In terms of having the administration in place to trust with anything more than a forged five dollar note, absolutely not.
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It will never happen,sorry. The best option is to continue with the Hawthorn deal, at least Tassie has some part by having 4 games down there.
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Re: Tasmanian AFL team bid webdite: tassiefootyteam.com.au
I don't actually think that's true. As long as they had the facilities available in the stadium, I think their corporate support would be similar to the lowest Victorian clubs. I read an article a few months ago that the Roos raise a lowly $3 million a year from match day corporates - I think Tassie is well and truly capable of coming up with that, simply because there is nowhere near as much competition for the corporate dollar. But obviously nowhere near the big clubs that raise 8 figure amounts from those sources.
That's not to suggest that the club would be viable in the long term, certainly no more viable than the bottom 3 or 4 Vic clubs. But the benefit is that they could construct a list and support base fairly quickly. To avoid an odd number of teams, they may well be given the chance above any other alternative if in 2016 (for example), 2 Melbourne clubs merge.
I don't actually think that's true. As long as they had the facilities available in the stadium, I think their corporate support would be similar to the lowest Victorian clubs. I read an article a few months ago that the Roos raise a lowly $3 million a year from match day corporates - I think Tassie is well and truly capable of coming up with that, simply because there is nowhere near as much competition for the corporate dollar. But obviously nowhere near the big clubs that raise 8 figure amounts from those sources.
That's not to suggest that the club would be viable in the long term, certainly no more viable than the bottom 3 or 4 Vic clubs. But the benefit is that they could construct a list and support base fairly quickly. To avoid an odd number of teams, they may well be given the chance above any other alternative if in 2016 (for example), 2 Melbourne clubs merge.
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Of course we would survive,it's the bigger picture that you can't seem to see,let's face it Tasmania has not the population or financial backing to maintain an AFL team based down in Tassie.So the next best thing for them is to have 4 AFL games and at least be invovled in some form of the competition, and what a good deal Hawthorn struck with the Tasmanian government and had the gut's to do it.
Hawthorn deal is a goer, after reading this thread.
Keep the Hawthorn deal going, maybe even try an take a 25% stake in the club as well?
If the club ever starts to struggle, gobble it up and ship it too Tassie
Don't be so impressionable. A bunch of footy fans on here who have no access to any financial report claiming Tasmania will have half the revenue of Fitzroy does not equal an educated view.
And also your idea of buying a stake in a club is not possible, and AFL clubs do not have stakes to be bought.
