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That wouldn't actually be ironic. Not even borderline.
Alanis Morrissette has a lot to answer for.
Yes it would, Gunnar. Think about it.
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Wow, that's persuasive.
It wouldn't be ironic. That word has a far more nuanced meaning than most people seem to grasp. Like I said, Alanis Morrissette has a lot to answer for.
**** Alanis Morrissette, you're just too stupid to get the irony. "Alanis Morrissette" has become a buzz meme for ***** who think they know what irony is and no-one else does.
Since you're determined to not think about it, I'll explain it too you.
It would be ironic if a club created to aid an expansion which many fear will end up squeezing out one or more of the "traditional" Melbourne clubs from existence in the top league, were to adopt the name of an animal that is extinct as it's moniker. (you know, coz they'd be identifying with an extinct animal at the same time as having they're very creation lead to the extinction of another club...
)This is ironic, and you are just as shit as Alanis(which given the quote above is also ironic, just so you know)
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It would be ironic if someone who was using irony to point out the lack of irony in a post that purported to be ironic was actually not particularly ironic.
Or would it?
I'm all ironied out.
Or would it?
I'm all ironied out.
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No – she exemplifies the practice of describing shit as ironic when it plainly isn't i.e. rain on your wedding day. Not even remotely ironic. Just slightly bad luck.
Yeah – that's not quite ironic.Since you're determined to not think about it, I'll explain it too you. It would be ironic if a club created to aid an expansion which many fear will end up squeezing out one or more of the "traditional" Melbourne clubs from existence in the top league, were to adopt the name of an animal that is extinct as it's moniker. (you know, coz they'd be identifying with an extinct animal at the same time as having they're very creation lead to the extinction of another club...
It's at least one perverse twist short of genuine irony, not to mention that the linkages rest entirely on some ambitious leaps of extrapolation and tea-leaf work. For example, how would the creation of a team in GWS directly cause the extinction of a Melbourne club? It wouldn't; not in any sensible analysis, anyway. Therefore, the whole daisy-chain of cause-and-effect you've set up to squeeze out a little nugget of irony is erroneous.
Surprisingly, wikipedia actually provides two pretty good examples of situational irony:
- When John Hinckley attempted to assassinate Ronald Reagan, all of his shots initially missed the President; however, a bullet ricocheted off the bullet-proof Presidential limousine and struck Reagan in the chest. Thus, a vehicle made to protect the President from gunfire was responsible for his being shot.
- In 1974 the US Consumer Product Safety Commission had to recall 80,000 of its own lapel buttons promoting "toy safety", because the buttons had sharp edges, used lead paint, and had small clips that could be broken off and subsequently swallowed.
Another example: an advocate for the death penalty, in the course of campaigning for capital punishment to be reintroduced, commits a murder and becomes the first person executed under new legislation they worked to bring in. That would be ironic.
People often describe stuff that is random, surprising, unlucky or just mildly dissonant as ironic, as though it's all interchangeable. The word has been dumbed down. It irritates me.
Yeah, that's also not ironic.This is ironic, and you are just as shit as Alanis(which given the quote above is also ironic, just so you know)
Sorry – didn't mean to derail the thread.
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It would be ironic if your name was Richard
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Why?
Is that the name of the last man you worshipped from afar?
Again, that would be more coincidental than ironic.
On that note, I'll leave you lads to it.
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Irony means "kind of like iron".
Example: I built a giant elephant cage from an irony metal.
Moniker suggestion: West Sydney Iron... or West Sydney Elephants.
Example: I built a giant elephant cage from an irony metal.
Moniker suggestion: West Sydney Iron... or West Sydney Elephants.
I understand why you invoked her name, she wrote a song about irony wherein nothing she said was Ironic. And she made the process of acting like you are the lone purveyer of dictionary quality irony alot easier in the process.
Right. Real irony has a 2 perverse twist minimum, hey?
That's were the term "would be" does it's magic. Are you familiar with the role the words "would be" play in the phrase "it would be ironic if..."?
Coz I'm saying, it would be a little ironic if you were in here trying to show off your awesome vocabulary knowledge by explaining to us the esoteric nuances of the word "irony" if it turned out you weren't even smart enough to correctly decipher the term "would be".
There are active suspicions that it will do just that. Even if it's board members didn't have any direct hand in the extinction of another club, none the less it's existance would be a symbol for the ambitions that brought it about. It would be ironic if the symbol of the coming of the extinction of a club (ie. Western Sydney's inception heralding the end for North Melbourne...) adopted a symbol which happened by chance to be inextricably linked with the concept of extinction.
This is actually quite a central theme to many peoples anticipation of how the new club will sit in the AFL environment. Even if it didn't happen, the fear of it happening would make the choice seem ironic until these fears evaporated.
If you disagree with these suspicions, you disagree that it would be ironic. That doesn't mean the word was applied incorrectly. Irony does have a subjective element.
Is it surprising because you don't remember making those entries?
Of course it is. You are blaming Alanis Morrissette for the proliferation of misunderstanding about what irony is to punctuate a post born of you misunderstanding why something was ironic. Deriding people for doing something you are doing in the very act of deriding them? = Ironic.
Irony can be found outside of wikipedia, you know. It's actually quite a common thing.
My fault. Not sorry.
Bottom line is, every time you don't get the irony in something, does not mean the word was not properly applied.
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Well, your whole rationale for it being ironic rests on the idea that a GWS team would cause the extinction of one in Melbourne.That's were the term "would be" does it's magic. Are you familiar with the role the words "would be" play in the phrase "it would be ironic if..."?
Coz I'm saying, it would be a little ironic if you were in here trying to show off your awesome vocabulary knowledge by explaining to us the esoteric nuances of the word "irony" if it turned out you weren't even smart enough to correctly decipher the term "would be".
And that's nonsense. Hence, no irony. Not unless you build a whole heap of shit into the situation that wasn't there to begin with.
If you make enough hypothetical leaps and extrapolations, you can build irony into any situation. That's what you're doing here.
Without these, there is nothing implicitly ironic about the GWS side calling itself the Dodos. Bizarre. Ominous, perhaps. But not ironic.
No. It rests on association, not cause. These are not hypothetical leaps and extrapolations, they are perceptions already in widespread existence.
The association between the birth of Western Sydney and the threat of extinction to a Melbourne club is very common, which is why most people get the irony.
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Tenuous, but well played.
How about the Western Sydney Irony?
Oh shit.
Oh shit.
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How about the Fighting Mongooses? That's a cool team name...
To those that suggested Wolves, I like... but be wary then of using Blue & Green colour combo, otherwise it'd just be like Minnesota in the NBA (and we all know how shizen they are....)
I think something along the lines of a native animal as a moniker is always good... Dingo? Emu? Koala? Huntsman (as in the spider)?
Or something to pay homage to the rural lifestyle? West Sydney Stockmen? Pre-game you could have a guy on a horse ride the boundary, carrying the team flag or something.... like at the opening ceremony at the Sydney Ollies??
To those that suggested Wolves, I like... but be wary then of using Blue & Green colour combo, otherwise it'd just be like Minnesota in the NBA (and we all know how shizen they are....)
I think something along the lines of a native animal as a moniker is always good... Dingo? Emu? Koala? Huntsman (as in the spider)?
Or something to pay homage to the rural lifestyle? West Sydney Stockmen? Pre-game you could have a guy on a horse ride the boundary, carrying the team flag or something.... like at the opening ceremony at the Sydney Ollies??
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Nice one on the logo Tigerdeano. I think it shows how Orange and Blue can work together pretty well. You should do a guernsey design with the same colours. 
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Heh not too bad at all. If the logo could be tweaked slighley then it has potential to look like a fully professional marketable concept.
I don;t know why, but I just thought thart shgield looked kind of like a paw. Might not work and look cheezy, but could be an idea worth looking at before dismissing.
I don;t know why, but I just thought thart shgield looked kind of like a paw. Might not work and look cheezy, but could be an idea worth looking at before dismissing.
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