The Age article

[sharpie]

http://www.realfooty.theage.com.au/realfooty/articles/2007/03/24/1174597954387.html


Brownlow medallist and premiership player eh?

 

[sharpie]

If I had to punt - i think i'd be fairly confident on whom it is

 

[sharpie]

Remember, this was before his fall from grace in 2001. So that gets rid of a couple of names doesn't it?

no!

i initially thought that

but it never refers to the fact that the guy already had those medals in his possession at the time of the incident

he may have had neither, he may just have had the premiership, or just have had the brownlow

or he may have had both at the time

 

[sharpie]

no!

i initially thought that

but it never refers to the fact that the guy already had those medals in his possession at the time of the incident

he may have had neither, he may just have had the premiership, or just have had the brownlow

or he may have had both at the time

actually i take it back - you may be right - though it is a bit ambiguous

 

[jim boy]

Fine to stick within the bounds suggested by the article, however he may have been referring to Ben Cousins. Even though he fell from grace in 2001, the age often lets minor details like that slip through.

 

[sharpie]

Hmmm, I can think of another high profile Brownlow medalist and premiership player that you didn't mention.

there are two eagles as well - but it days it isn't an eagle


EDIT: Geez i'm struggling tonight - getting my articles mixed up - clearly this article doesn't exclude the eagles - so I guess you can include cousins.

I think Judd would be okay - as 2001 was his first year

 

[Ron]

Hmmm, I can think of another high profile Brownlow medalist and premiership player that you didn't mention.

Heh wouldn't that be funny if it was him.
Well not so much funny as friggin hilarious.

 

[#1 Dogs Fan]

If I had to punt - i think i'd be fairly confident on whom it is

Why cant you say who you think it is ?

 

[scottwade]

I have no idea if the article is true or not, but it's worth while remembering who this guy is.

Andrew Fraser was a criminal lawyer before a cocaine habit led him to conspire with a former client to smuggle the drug from Africa in 1999. He was sentenced to a minimum five years' jail in 2001 after pleading guilty to trafficking, possession and importation. He was released last September after providing new evidence that led to Peter Norris Dupas being charged with the murder of Mersina Halvagis nine years ago. His book Court in the Middle will be published by Hardie Grant in October.

 

[Canine]

Heh wouldn't that be funny if it was him.
Well not so much funny as friggin hilarious.

Sorry, I shouldn't have added the smiley face.........

It seemed amusing initially, however, upon reflection, I'd actually hate to see his reputation tarnished towards the end of what has been a great career in football..

 

[Grimreepah]

I have no idea if the article is true or not, but it's worth while remembering who this guy is.

Andrew Fraser was a criminal lawyer before a cocaine habit led him to conspire with a former client to smuggle the drug from Africa in 1999. He was sentenced to a minimum five years' jail in 2001 after pleading guilty to trafficking, possession and importation. He was released last September after providing new evidence that led to Peter Norris Dupas being charged with the murder of Mersina Halvagis nine years ago. His book Court in the Middle will be published by Hardie Grant in October.

Yeah, that last bit in particular.

 

[sharpie]

Why cant you say who you think it is ?

a little thing called proof

i don't have it - so i don't name names

 

[JeffDunne]

This article is rather ironic because I had a similar conversation earlier tonight.

 

[Vintage]

Why cant you say who you think it is ?

That's a good question. Why can't we offer our uneducated opinions as to who we think it is?

 

[- PC -]

no!

i initially thought that

but it never refers to the fact that the guy already had those medals in his possession at the time of the incident

he may have had neither, he may just have had the premiership, or just have had the brownlow

or he may have had both at the time

Remember, this was before his (Andrew Fraser's) fall from grace in 2001. So that gets rid of a couple of names doesn't it? I think Ricciuto, Goodes and Black not eligible.. Akermanis also unlikely (won in 2001, year that Fraser went away).

Have another read

they were all premiership players

At the time

... and they were all snorting the white powder.

I was not shocked at footballers consuming coke but I was surprised that these high-profile players were having such a red hot go. Especially a Brownlow medallist.

ie he knew at the time he had a BM

 

[Ron]

This article is rather ironic because I had a similar conversation earlier tonight.

Well JD only ever talks about Carlton, so i think we have our answer guys.

Lock it in Eddie.

 

[Father Jack]

there are two eagles as well - but it days it isn't an eagle


EDIT: Geez i'm struggling tonight - getting my articles mixed up - clearly this article doesn't exclude the eagles - so I guess you can include cousins.

I think Judd would be okay - as 2001 was his first year

Well, 2002 actually. Well and truly in the clear.

 

[JeffDunne]

That's a good question. Why can't we offer our uneducated opinions as to who we think it is?

For the same reason the article doesn't name them.


If you read the article carefully you'll work out the name.

Hint : "One night before my spectacular fall from grace"

 

[jim boy]

well given this quote from the age two weeks back

One of the Blues' great finals players reputedly played under the influence of drugs — "his eyes would be rolling around like mad", recalls a contemporary — and later became a dealer among younger players. He saw a Carlton player at a nightclub during the finals in the late 1990s and, while commiserating with him for being dropped from the side, slipped the embarrassed player some drugs.

http://www.theage.com.au/realfooty/...ealings-rampant/2007/03/10/1173478728591.html
it may not be so hard to work out who they are talking about

 

[Quinz]

well given this quote from the age two weeks back
http://www.theage.com.au/realfooty/...ealings-rampant/2007/03/10/1173478728591.html
it may not be so hard to work out who they are talking about

Well that was easy. Next article?

 

[JeffDunne]

Well JD only ever talks about Carlton, so i think we have our answer guys..

That's not true.



In the article he didn't say the player was a Brownlow medalist at the time.

 

[- PC -]

That's not true.



In the article he didn't say the player was a Brownlow medalist at the time.

The implication was that he did

I was not shocked at footballers consuming coke but I was surprised that these high-profile players were having such a red hot go. Especially a Brownlow medallist.

That reads as present tense ie he knew he was a BM

 

[bmwofoz]

Reading the article the player is retired but involved in the media this player could be from any era.

 

[Lidge]

well given this quote from the age two weeks back
http://www.theage.com.au/realfooty/...ealings-rampant/2007/03/10/1173478728591.html
it may not be so hard to work out who they are talking about

Aren't the Aussies 'Dominating' the Saffers tonight?

 

[jim boy]

Mind you I must point out that this is purely speculation based upon the published account of a discredited party. As an exercise in working out who they are talking about, that is fine as it is the Age have published this information. This does not mean that the particular party has been identified in the press as a drug user/dealer.

Any posts accusing any player based upon this article alone as a drug user or dealer in drugs is not permittable under the rules of Big Footy.