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Sack Simmonds, King and Johnston today

Imagine the statement it would make

The board could make it clear who exactly runs the club and that the tail wagging the dog won't be tolerated. Ever again.

WE would also get some brownie points in the media for taking a strong stance.

What is there to lose? Promote some kids and take a stance
 
Or come out and tell the real story followed by legal action against the reporters and publications that have slandered our club and players.

It's one or the other. Anything else and they can all get ****ed.

Anywho, I'm off to watch training.
 

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Or come out and tell the real story followed by legal action against the reporters and publications that have slandered our club and players.

It's one or the other. Anything else and they can all get ****ed.

Anywho, I'm off to watch training.


yep its one or the other, either way they have to come out firing today or they can go get ****ed!

well said
 
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Makes us look like we can't handle criticism rather than making us look strong.

How?

It wouldn't be a reaction tot he media story but an actual reaction to what they did( if they did it!)

We need to make a very clear statement that players trying to rmeove coaches won't be tolerated....it might just help the next coach want to come to Richmond.

but no, it would appear like we can't handle criticism??? WTF??
 
Sausage,

Completely agree with you. Newman, for his naivety, should be summoned to a review at the end of the year of his captaincy, and I would suggest he be stripped of it and it be given to Cousins if he can perform on the field for the rest of the year well.

How will the crowd react when Simmonds and Newman get the ball tomorrow night?

I'll be up in Hassett Room, and sometimes you se some of the non-playing group up there. Kane Johnson and Jake King don't want to be showing their faces around there. I don't think the atmosphere would be good.

I generally feel sorry for Wallace. It's the toughest hob going around and yes, he's made a fair few errors in his tenure with RFC, but he doesn't deserve that treatment. I wouldn't have played any of those 4 this week.

And as for the leak - we need to find this person and erase them from the club. I have my speculations who it might be.
 
We should delist all 3 and play Browne in the ruck in replace of Simmonds. I bet Newman supports Wallace, he just wants Terry to change a couple of his tactics on and off the field
 
Sausage,

Completely agree with you. Newman, for his naivety, should be summoned to a review at the end of the year of his captaincy, and I would suggest he be stripped of it and it be given to Cousins if he can perform on the field for the rest of the year well.

How will the crowd react when Simmonds and Newman get the ball tomorrow night?

I'll be up in Hassett Room, and sometimes you se some of the non-playing group up there. Kane Johnson and Jake King don't want to be showing their faces around there. I don't think the atmosphere would be good.

I generally feel sorry for Wallace. It's the toughest hob going around and yes, he's made a fair few errors in his tenure with RFC, but he doesn't deserve that treatment. I wouldn't have played any of those 4 this week.

And as for the leak - we need to find this person and erase them from the club. I have my speculations who it might be.
I for one will being boooing simmonds all night and for the rest of the season. Thats one one we can make our feelings felt and would be great if a few others did the same it would catch on.And maybe just maybe the club will know how we feel about players like that and not have them at our club.
 
I missed the start of the Huchinbums report. Did he actually have anything other than 'I beleive'. I heard Sam ask a few time how he this or that. He didnt answer.

This whole demanding the coaches job just doesnt sound quite right. What we may have is a bit of emotive language being used.

One thing that has to be done is find the Mole.
 
agreed, not exactly texbook 101 on how to arbitrate on conflict...perhaps sopranos 101 :rolleyes:


Still dont get the argument???

If what is alleged is true, the club has to sack them all three of them now!

We would lose nothing in terms of playing ability and gian plenty int erms of credibility in making a statement about what will and won; be tolerated
 
How?

It wouldn't be a reaction tot he media story but an actual reaction to what they did( if they did it!)

We need to make a very clear statement that players trying to rmeove coaches won't be tolerated....it might just help the next coach want to come to Richmond.

but no, it would appear like we can't handle criticism??? WTF??

Sacking the players will make us look like a kneejerk tyrant sacking players left, right and centre who has an opinion. Don't you think that is a clear sign of not being able to handle criticism from the players by sacking opinionated players?
 

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Still dont get the argument???

If what is alleged is true, the club has to sack them all three of them now!

We would lose nothing in terms of playing ability and gian plenty int erms of credibility in making a statement about what will and won; be tolerated

Sack them for having an opinion?
 
Sack Simmonds, King and Johnston today

Imagine the statement it would make

The board could make it clear who exactly runs the club and that the tail wagging the dog won't be tolerated. Ever again.

WE would also get some brownie points in the media for taking a strong stance.

What is there to lose? Promote some kids and take a stance
No one gets away with making the media look like fools.
Plan B:Lets keep throwing Mud.
 
Sack them for having an opinion?


Dear oh dear, casting pearls to the swine here.

They are not being sacked for having an opinion but rather for trying to get the coach sacked. For telling the captain to go in there and sack the coach.

The next coach needs to know that this sort of thing will not be tolerated.

People get sacked all the time in politics for "gaving an opinion" if it isn't in tune wiht the party.

The beauty is they all can't play...bye bye guys
 
So you take Hutchy's/Caro's word for gospel?

They are not being sacked for having an opinion but rather for trying to get the coach sacked. For telling the captain to go in there and sack the coach.

Which is their opinion to get the coach sacked right?
 
If everything that has been reported is true, then they should be delisted immediately. It may mean we won't see Nahas for the rest of the year because Johnsons no longer on the LTI but you can't have this happening at the club. IF it is true.
 
Sack Simmonds, King and Johnston today

Imagine the statement it would make

The board could make it clear who exactly runs the club and that the tail wagging the dog won't be tolerated. Ever again.

WE would also get some brownie points in the media for taking a strong stance.

What is there to lose? Promote some kids and take a stance

Sausage i posted it earlier and mate you are 100% SPOT ON THE MONEY
the club MUST DO IT
I dont care if simmonds gets 210 hit outs and kicks 16 this week and becomes the best player in the afl we must do it and we must do it today
infact if we dont (which we wont) it makes us week as piss

i was all for getting a new coach at the end of the year letting terry see out his 5 years and replacing him but its almost giving these sooks what they want, im still happy for a new coach but the players who did this need to be delisted immediately, Johnson King Simmonds and anyone else who hasnt been named must be delisted. Newman must be stripped of his captaincy and is on thin ice, i can handle that he was naive and maybe a bit of peer pressure which is why he can keep his spot on the list JUST.

TW needs to harden up coach for the club (despite it looking like he has a person vendetta against the guys named) and retire them delist drop do whatever he can, their names need to be smeared through the mud and anyone wether it be media player administrator coach or anyone else who does anything to harm this great club needs to be exiled.

our players should ban all media (like eddie keeps threatening) who have reported wrongly in the last few days

any board member that has spoken out of turn or said the wrong thing should be gone

any1 who thinks sheedy belongs in the coaches chair is kidding themselves he belongs in the boardroom
 
Yup, heads must roll. Although people like to think the story isn't true, the fact that Newman and co have not denied it means it has to be. Newman can no longer be captain, it showed a complete lack of leadership. Players involved should be moved on from the club.

Wallace has certaintly come out of this smelling of roses, and he will probably have to stay on as coach now given his obstinate refusal to leave his untenable position. If we sack him it will look like we gave into player demands. Just a selfish operator who could not give a **** that he is ruining our club as long as his interests are secured. Dogs supporters must be laughing their arses off.
 
Yup, heads must roll. Although people like to think the story isn't true, the fact that Newman and co have not denied it means it has to be. Newman can no longer be captain, it showed a complete lack of leadership. Players involved should be moved on from the club.

Wallace has certaintly come out of this smelling of roses, and he will probably have to stay on as coach now given his obstinate refusal to leave his untenable position. If we sack him it will look like we gave into player demands. Just a selfish operator who could not give a **** that he is ruining our club as long as his interests are secured. Dogs supporters must be laughing their arses off.


Absolutely spot on.....through all of this, Wallace has become the 'victim'. He has clearly lost the support of Management, players, and supporters, yet he still rocks up day after day to continue this charade.

If he had any self esteem, he would simply walk away. Don't fall for all this crap that he is spinning - he is simply in this for the money, nothing more, nothing less.
 
Yup, heads must roll. Although people like to think the story isn't true, the fact that Newman and co have not denied it means it has to be. Newman can no longer be captain, it showed a complete lack of leadership. Players involved should be moved on from the club.

Wallace has certaintly come out of this smelling of roses, and he will probably have to stay on as coach now given his obstinate refusal to leave his untenable position. If we sack him it will look like we gave into player demands. Just a selfish operator who could not give a **** that he is ruining our club as long as his interests are secured. Dogs supporters must be laughing their arses off.

Wallace know he's got the game plan and the players(30 players on our list), but we have had too many players sidelined. It's the last remaing duds(remaining 10 players) holding the club back on the field(and now off it too). He's doing what's best for the club and staying put. He's putting the club before himself. Why else would he drop Morton, Reiwoldt and Thursty when they clearly are in the best 22?
 
So you take Hutchy's/Caro's word for gospel?



Which is their opinion to get the coach sacked right?

They are not being sacked for having the opinion but trying to get someone to act on it.

All players need to know they can't have any influence on getting the coach sacked...which they tried to do. Get it?

It is three guys who all either can't get a game or are on the outer and they know it.

IT it total self preservation.

Exactly, what have we to lose?
We look like a laughing stock now.
How could it get any worse?
 
Wallace know he's got the game plan and the players(30 players on our list), but we have had too many players sidelined. It's the last remaing duds(remaining 10 players) holding the club back on the field(and now off it too). He's doing what's best for the club and staying put. He's putting the club before himself. Why else would he drop Morton, Reiwoldt and Thursty when they clearly are in the best 22?
His gameplan is rubbish, his players are rubbish, about 5-6 of them tried to get him to leave the club. We are an absolute rabble. Wallace if he really wanted to help the club would leave it and leave it immediately. He should face the facts that he has failed as a coach and let the club move on with youth development.

Why would he drop those players? Sheesh because they deserved to be dropped, that is not putting himself before the club. A full on youth development program would be putting the club before himself. It was plain as day that finals were off once Melbourne beat us.
 

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