Unsolved The Family Murders

[Kurve]

The Who's Who List

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VICTIMS
AB - Alan Barnes 16yo
NM - Neil Muir 25yo
PS - Peter Stogneff 14yo
ML - Mark Langley 18yo
RK- Richard Kelvin 15yo

• DS - Derrance Stevenson high risk lifestyle pornographer and criminal lawyer shot to death
• DS - David Szach convicted for the murder of criminal lawyer Derrence Stevenson

DECEASED
DSD - Denis St Denis hairdresser
RBD - Richard Dutton Brown the magistrate
PF - Pru Firman
SN - Sarah Novak
BG - Brian Gant
NB - Noel Brook also known as Di Di
TP - Trevor Peters of the diaries
PM - Dr. Peter Leslie Millhouse acquitted for the murder of Neil Muir

LIVING until further notice
BVE - Bevan von Einem also known as 'Bevbang' to inner circle and 'Vonnie' in the prison system
Mr R - The businessman name suppressed
SGW - Dr Stephen George Woodards
Mr. B - Teenage prostitute and informant name suppressed
JL - Jacquie the nurse mentioned in the ebook as a good friend of and who rented a unit close to BVEs unit we assume name suppressed?
LT - Lewis Turtur also known as 'Louie'
A - The older teenage boy Peter Stogneff's parents feel may have had something to do with their son's abduction
RR - Raymond Rozankowski who was a friend of BVE and lived in the same street as A

DK - Darko Kastellan assistant to Gambardella
GG - Gino Gambardella chiropractor fled to Italy

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[Kurve]

If we're aware names are suppressed, we have to follow the rules. We can use Mr B and Mr R. Until someone manages to get the orders lifted, that's how it rolls.

Thanks.

 

[PaulSubetro]

Someone online told me his address, his house is quite distinctive, I don't know the exact street number, but I checked it out myself. I've searched for Mr R and Mr B. They have nothing online. The only thing online is Mr R's shop. I heard that Mr B had died, but I'm not sure if that's true. I've never looked at rent rolls etc.
Pity she didn't make public the entire contents of that diary.

Is this it?

 

[acermark]

Wow! Just listened to the final podcast.

The interesting part for me is SAPOL visited Jock Muir (Neil's brother) 5 years ago and asked if he had an issue if someone who "was just present but didn't participate" in the murders was given immunity. That has to be Mr B. 5 years ago coincides with the discovery of Trevor Peters' diaries. Mr B always claimed, "just before sh it was about to go down I left". SAPOL strongly suspected he was lying. They must have re-engaged and said, "we've got these diaries, will you still testify? But, we need you to not leave stuff out this time - we'll give you immunity".

Nothing became of it but now Turtur has said, "I saw Mr R bring a drugged boy to my house" then maybe that's enough to lay charges. This late in the game, I think the public are willing to sacrifice a Turtur and Mr B getting a get out of jail free card.


In one of Marshall's podcasts a drug-rape victim says he was drugged by BVE and taken to a house. He described the house as have lead light windows and inside just some chairs. It wasn't really a house that was lived in. Hopefully SAPOL interview this guy and see if they can locate it. Could be where the boys were held.

I think Darko Kastelan can shed some light on some things;

1. Was Derrance Alan Barnes' lawyer for the rape case?
2. Were they getting heroin from Derrance?
3. Was Derrance making movies?
4. When did they meet BVE?
5. How well did you know David Szach?

Yep, they definitely need to give one of them immunity to be able to ever get a conviction. For me Mr R is at the top of the list to be sent to jail for life.

I recall in the first episode of the podcast that the drug-rape victim said the house was "number 6" as he and Debi drove up to it but I'll have to listen to it again. I was hoping they would show that bit in the TV series but didn't.

I also wonder if Darko was part of the "clean up crew" in the late hours of June 4, 1979.

 

[PaulSubetro]

I recall in the first episode of the podcast that the drug-rape victim said the house was "number 6" as he and Debi drove up to it but I'll have to listen to it again. I was hoping they would show that bit in the TV series but didn't.

It's at 14:30 of the first episode

Rough details are:

In 1979 a guy called Colin Todd said he was at a pub having a beer. His second beer was very bitter and then he started feeling ill. A tall guy approached and asked if he was ok. He offered Colin a lift home so he accepted.

But he was taken somewhere else. A Victorian Terrace at no.6 with lead light windows and a small garden. The tall good samaritan help Colin inside as he was uneasy on his feet. The house was sparsely furnished, probably makeshift furnishing. Colin was helped onto the lounge and given another beer. It had the same bitter taste. The tall good samaritan sat across from him in an arm chair and just stared at him while his head swirled. It was an evil look. Colin knew something wasn't right so asked to use the toilet. He went down the passage, out the back door and bailed.

He never reported it to the police. When there was an arrest over the Richard Kelvin murder Colin recognised his abductor as Bevan Spencer von Einem.

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I wonder at what stage in 1979. Apparently BVE and DSD rented a house in the inner east to take victims. But this probably can't have been before Alan Barnes (June 1979) because BVE showed DSD photos of Barnes unconscious in his car (probably with a strategically placed bottle). If BVE and DSD already had that rental then he'd be unlikely showing him photos at the salon, he be showing him the real-life thing.

So some questions;

1. Barnes was held for days. Where was he held? Did BVE and DSD already have the rental? My guess is no based on, a) pictures of Barnes in BVE's car - if they had a private home then wouldn't he just take him there rather than a less private and more risky car? Or did they need to wait until nightfall to take them victims into the house/unit etc), and b) why did he need to show DSD photos? Wouldn't be, "I got one, come to the house/unit"?, and c) DSD was said to have asked, "who's that?" to which BVE replied, "just some hitch hiker" which suggests DSD had no prior knowledge.

2. Where was Neil Muir held? From abduction to chopped up and dumped was within 24 hours, probably same night. He was extensively sliced and diced which would have been messy. So where did this happen? This also suggests that BVE and DSD had not yet rented that property - otherwise they have have held him longer or not needed to dump the body on the same night.

3. No. 6. Is this the place that BVE and DSD rented to hold the boys? I wonder if SAPOL have checked tenancy and ownership records on this place.


Lastly, I don't want to knock Mr Todd, but I can't imagine this happening to me and not going to police. I'd probably go straight away and say, "see that house, you need to find out who has occupancy because something dodgy is going on". Failing that, as soon as Kelvin goes missing, it's got to cross your mind that maybe there's a link.

 

[PaulSubetro]

I also wonder if Darko was part of the "clean up crew" in the late hours of June 4, 1979.

You'd have to think there's a big chance. Barnes was besties or lovers with Darko. Together they were hitting up the gay nightlife scene in the CBD every weekend.

Gary Place testified that Barnes was all about the chase for drugs every weekend and when in the company of BVE and Woodards, BVE offered them drugs if they could find more young men.

Turtur claimed he was using everything but BVE would only have pills (mandrax etc). There's no reason for him to lie about this.

So young men/teenagers who were into drugs and frequented the CBD could get what they wanted from older gay men. Clearly at the time 16-19 year old male teenagers were highly coveted. Gambardella was cruising the city looking for them. BVE and his crew were also on the lookout. There was a rent boy scene at Veale Gardens. And then there was Derrance.

Why are young guys hanging out with a 44 year old dude? Although I think Szach is regular liar, I think his claim that he wasn't invited to Derrances "Friday night soirees" is probably true. Some reasons why may be;

- Derrance may not have wanted to share Szach with anyone
- To get lots of young 16-19 year old teenagers to come to sex parties, Derrance had to have something on offer. That was probably heroin. That's probably why Barnes and Kastelan were hanging out with Derrance. Derrance may not have wanted his main partner to get into heroin, or he may not have wanted Szach to be a witness. The other kids are taking part in a transaction, where as having Szach know about it represented a higher risk because once relationships sour, many ex-partners spill the beans.

So I think Kastelan knows way more than he's said and think there's a big chance he was part of the clean up crew. The brief case and garbage bag that the young man left Derrances place in a taxi - probably had the missing pillow, plus items from the freezer that needed to be removed to fit Derrance in.

 

[BlueE]

Long time lurker first time poster here!

BVE and Denis St Denis both had jobs and lived with their mothers and Mr R had his shop, perhaps Mr B was staying at the apartment regularly to keep watch on things? No doubt though they all would have been there on the weekends. Though for the first week of Richard's captivity BVE was apparently home sick with the flu.

I'd say too that Richard would have been gagged and tied up to a bed in the bedroom to keep him from making any noise to arouse suspicion. There was also evidence that he had eaten an apple and cornflakes not long before his death so there were times when wasn't completely out to it. And he had suffered various injuries and bruising during the 5 weeks he was held, perhaps from him fighting to escape or not to take the drugs? The autopsy had revealed the possibilty of him being injected with drugs into his arm so maybe they resorted to that to keep him knocked out.

The apartment itself possibly too could've have been similar to BVE's ground level Campbelltown apartment where he could drive straight up to the front door and carry drugged boys straight in with minimal detection. There is an apartment block in William Street, Norwood that has several small one bedroom apartments with some at ground level having their front doors right on the driveway.

I was stunned to hear on the final episode of Debi Marshall's podcast that Neil Muir's brother revealed that Neil had been given an expensive ring by a "wealthy businessman who had an antique shop". I'm also looking forward to her upcoming book on The Family murders.

You might take the record for long time lucking ... 14 years before making your first post! Have you taken an interest in the other Adelaide strange murders as well?

He could have been kept in a cellar or a room in a private commercial premise.

However with some of the "Family" victims, especially Neil Muir with complicated surgery which detached the limbs that an expert surgeon testified in Dr Peter Millhouses's trial for Muir's murder of the expert skill it would have taken for the dissections. Dr Peter Millhouse said that was far beyond his skill level and it was. Dr Peter Millhouse was found not guilty and the person who dissected Neil Muir was not BVE or any ordinary Dr.

This was far more that just disposing of a body and the dismembered limbs would not have been neatly sown back into the abdominal cavity after all the organs were removed and the dead being attached by a rope through the mouth is next level depraved that would be not be imagined by a foot soldier like BVE.

On 3 April 1980 The Advertiser reported "Skill used to cut body, court told"

Whoever dismembered a body found in the Port River in August would have needed a definite knowledge of human anatomy and skill in cutting human flesh, the Adelaide Magistrates Court was told yesterday

Peter Leslie Millhouse, 45, medical practitioner, of Elizabeth Street, Mount Gambier, has been charged with having murdered Neil Frederick Muir, of no fixed address, at North Adelaide on August 28 last year.

Robert Britten-Jones, surgeon, of North Adelaide, said a number of sections of the body had been extremely neatly dissected. The disarticulation of the hands, which was a particularly difficult procedure because of the numerous ligaments in close proximity supporting the joints, indicated a definite knowledge of anatomy. It would have required skill in some degree to deal with such small joints in a compressed situation

Further anatomical knowledge had been indicated in the dissection of the hip joints. A noticeable feature in the dismemberment of the hip joints had been the absence of any score marks on the surface of the balls of the thigh bones. This was significant because it indicated a neatness, skill and anatomical knowledge in freeing the balls of the thigh bones from their sockets without producing score marks or cutting the surfaces.

 

[Kurve]

So I think Kastelan knows way more than he's said and think there's a big chance he was part of the clean up crew. The brief case and garbage bag that the young man left Derrances place in a taxi - probably had the missing pillow, plus items from the freezer that needed to be removed to fit Derrance in.

If a briefcase and garbage bag were removed from the house as part of a clean up, wouldn't it be more likely it was whatever was hidden in the hole under the floor the lady who bought the house found through a reno? pr0n of young men and pics, the kinds of things that might identify other people as either victims or offenders. Illicit drugs as the second priority.

It was interesting that an iv line iirc and steroids were left behind in the hole so whoever removed the contents, knew what to take and what might be left behind. They weren't interested in the steroids. Steroids don't tell the real story of what was going on there.

 

[PaulSubetro]

If a briefcase and garbage bag were removed from the house as part of a clean up, wouldn't it be more likely it was whatever was hidden in the hole under the floor the lady who bought the house found through a reno? pr0n of young men and pics, the kinds of things that might identify other people as either victims or offenders. Illicit drugs as the second priority.

It was interesting that an iv line iirc and steroids were left behind in the hole so whoever removed the contents, knew what to take and what might be left behind. They weren't interested in the steroids. Steroids don't tell the real story of what was going on there.

The pillow had to go somewhere so that's highly likely.
The freezer could have been empty, but unlikely. The frozen goods in the freezer could have been put in Derrance's bin but that would have raised alarm bells and we know the murderer made an effort to clean up. So there's a good chance there was some frozen food in that garbage bag.

What could have been in that hidey-hole. Heroin maybe. Home made pr0n maybe.

Who knew about the hole? Szach? Gambardella?

Was there anything there and was it removed? Who removed it and why?

On the subject of pr0n, Marshall interviewed an ex-street kid/rent boy who claimed movies were made and Derrance was blackmailing people. This guy is an unreliable witness IMO. Gambardella allegedly took a job interviewee back to a house that had a room covered in photos of teenagers either naked or engaging in sex acts. If there was pr0n going on, i would lean towards photos rather than film - still just as damaging to Derrance and anyone else in them.


It's believed Barnes was the guy who went to Legal Aid the next day. It's also believed he was the guy in the taxi with the briefcase and garbage bag (Szach had to have left by then). What was he doing there? Assuming it was Barnes, was he there before Derrance was murdered? Or did Szach call him (probably Kastelan and Barnes) to come and help? Or did he just drop by and Szach roped him into helping?

There's a lot of unanswered questions. A lot of people stayed silent on this. Surely someone who went to those Friday night parties could shed some light on what happened on those nights. Darko knows a lot but has said little.

 

[Kurve]

The pillow had to go somewhere so that's highly likely.
The freezer could have been empty, but unlikely. The frozen goods in the freezer could have been put in Derrance's bin but that would have raised alarm bells and we know the murder made an effort to clean up. So there's a good chance there was some frozen food in that garbage bag

Okay, the pillow went out or was it the pillowcase and someone shoved stuff in that? Or both.

When Gambardella left he may have taken more stuff out, the witnesses probably didn't see absolutely everything.

Derrance had either a VHS/Beta video player, one of the very early ones apparently way before everybody else got one and a camera set up. Where are the pics and tapes?

Who knew the hole was there? Probably Szach because he's a sticky beak, they lived together and he's got history of breaking into houses, he knows where to look for hidey holes. Pretty big hole too which surprised me.

Whoever Derrance's partner/s in crime were, would also have known where that hole was.

Szach had a three year history with Derrance, he knows way more than he's letting on and it probably involves some really dark stuff. Overdoses in the house, if there's heroin and pills around sooner or later someone will o'd. Can't draw attention calling an ambo, dump them.

Szach's a liar, I think he did kill Derrance but he would have done less time if he'd admitted they had a struggle with the gun and it went off, that it was unintentional. The clean up operation under someone else's direction afterwards complicated it all.

I'm not sure either if Szach simply killed Derrance because the honeymoon was over.

 

[PaulSubetro]

Let's also consider this;


- We know a young man with blonde shoulder length hair took a taxi from Derence's at approximately 11pm into the middle of the CBD. He had a brief case and garbage bag. This person was witnessed putting that garbage bag into a bin. Police searched for it but never recovered it.
- It probably wasn't Szach. He was in Port Wakefield an hour later (approximately 1 hour drive). Catching a cab to the city to dump evidence didn't make sense.
- So who is this man who grabbed the cab. Probably Alan Barnes because it's speculated the next day he was the man at Legal Aid.

- From Debi Marshall's doco it was uncovered that
- Szach's version as that at 2:30/3pm he had fruit cake with Derrance
- Food takes between 2-4 hours to digest through the stomach. Derrance still had frut cake in his stomach which shows he died before 7pm
- Furthermore, blood bruising on Derrance showed he had been left outside the freezer for a number of hours before being placed in the freezer.
- So there's no real way around - Szach had to be involved. He had to have been in that house, at the very least, when Derrance was dead.

Witness testimony also alleges Gambardella was at the house from 8:45 to 11pm.


So Szach, the unidentified blonde man (possibly Barnes) and Gambardella left the house at 11pm. Derrance was probably murdered before 6:40pm which means Gambardella wasn't involved in the actual murder.

So about the pr0n - it's unlikely Derrance was murdered because he had compromising videos/photos of people (unless someone paid Szach to do it). But why did Gambardella (possibly) help Szach clean up? Did he make a pact with Szach about either videos, photos, or general behaviour?

 

[Bits]

I’m sure Debi Marshall asked many more questions than were included in the show and the podcast, and has much more info than she has revealed so far (maybe in the upcoming book?) but I was frustrated at times with what wasn’t covered/included/pursued further.

 

[Kurve]

But why did Gambardella (possibly) help Szach clean up? Did he make a pact with Szach about either videos, photos, or general behaviour?

He just wanted a high end Szach out of the house? Calmed him down by telling him he'd help and told him what to do, even if it didn't make much sense. Just get him out of the house and occupied.

 

[PaulSubetro]

Okay, the pillow went out or was it the pillowcase and someone shoved stuff in that? Or both.

When Gambardella left he may have taken more stuff out, the witnesses probably didn't see absolutely everything.

Derrance had either a VHS/Beta video player, one of the very early ones apparently way before everybody else got one and a camera set up. Where are the pics and tapes?

Who knew the hole was there? Probably Szach because he's a sticky beak, they lived together and he's got history of breaking into houses, he knows where to look for hidey holes. Pretty big hole too which surprised me.

Whoever Derrance's partner/s in crime were, would also have known where that hole was.

Szach had a three year history with Derrance, he knows way more than he's letting on and it probably involves some really dark stuff. Overdoses in the house, if there's heroin and pills around sooner or later someone will o'd. Can't draw attention calling an ambo, dump them.

Szach's a liar, I think he did kill Derrance but he would have done less time if he'd admitted they had a struggle with the gun and it went off, that it was unintentional. The clean up operation under someone else's direction afterwards complicated it all.

I'm not sure either if Szach simply killed Derrance because the honeymoon was over.

VHS and Beta were rare in 1979. I remember I had a mate whose parents were very wealthy and they had both a VCR and a hand held video camera very early on. We taped the GF and then used the pause button to get a good look at Helen d'Amico's boobs and muff (she was the streaker in the 1982 GF). The pause button was the best thing since sliced bread. Way better than putting cardboard in the spokes of you push bike.

So if he had a VCR and video equipment there would have been a record of it. Not necessarily in the media, but it would be in the police files.

I would also say Szach and Gambardella were the only ones who knew of that hidey-hole. And it does look likely Gambardella was there for the clean up so if there was a stash of home made pr0n he would have removed it himself.

 

[PaulSubetro]

I’m sure Debi Marshall asked many more questions than were included in the show and the podcast, and has much more info than she has revealed so far (maybe in the upcoming book?) but I was frustrated at times with what wasn’t covered/included/pursued further.

There's a lot of obvious questions that I assumed she asked but didn't go to air.

I would have liked to know what Szach said to, "you must have known Alan Barnes. What was he like". Mot likely a denial.

Kastelan is also key but I don't think she got much out of him.

 

[PaulSubetro]

He just wanted a high end Szach out of the house? Calmed him down by telling him he'd help and told him what to do, even if it didn't make much sense. Just get him out of the house and occupied.

Maybe. But Szach had just killed his best mate. Maybe Gamba had a strong sense of staunchness or maybe he needed Szach to remain silent.

 

[PaulSubetro]

Szach had a three year history with Derrance, he knows way more than he's letting on and it probably involves some really dark stuff. Overdoses in the house, if there's heroin and pills around sooner or later someone will o'd. Can't draw attention calling an ambo, dump them.

Remember the mugshot of Szach? That was during his relationship with Derrance. He looked in pretty bad shape. I wonder if he was using?

Unrelated but, Mr B developed a heroin addiction about the time the murders stopped.

 

[Kurve]

Maybe. But Szach had just killed his best mate. Maybe Gamba had a strong sense of staunchness or maybe he needed Szach to remain silent.

Gambardella, I'm pretty sure would have been motivated by self interest not in helping Szach, because he didn't.

Derrance was on outside of the freezer for over two hours, the heating was on high apparently he would have started to smell. Where to put him? In the freezer, seal the lid. Come back later and move the freezer out, or let it all fall on Szach.

 

[PaulSubetro]

Gambardella, I'm pretty sure would have been motivated by self interest not in helping Szach, because he didn't.

Derrance was on outside of the freezer for over two hours, the heating was on high apparently he would have started to smell. Where to put him? In the freezer, seal the lid. Come back later and move the freezer out, or let it all fall on Szach.

He did make a statement to police that Szach once told him he'd kill Derrance if Derrance left him. For whatever reason, Gamba wasn't required to testify in court but he did Szach no favours when making a statement to police.

So what's with his car being witnessed at Derrances from 8:45 to 11pm? It's either a false report or he helped Szach clean up.

 

[PaulSubetro]

Gambardella, I'm pretty sure would have been motivated by self interest not in helping Szach, because he didn't.

Derrance was on outside of the freezer for over two hours, the heating was on high apparently he would have started to smell. Where to put him? In the freezer, seal the lid. Come back later and move the freezer out, or let it all fall on Szach.

But why did he seemingly help in the first place. He goes over there and discovers Szach has killed his best mate. You'd think he would say, "I want nothing to do with this. You're on your own. Good luck in avoiding getting caught".

 

[Kurve]

But why did he seemingly help in the first place. He goes over there and discovers Szach has killed his best mate. You'd think he would say, "I want nothing to do with this. You're on your own. Good luck in avoiding getting caught".

He might also have been a bit intimidated by Szach, he's a loose cannon. He just killed someone, keep him stable and on side. He's also got the dirt on Gambardella etc.

And Gambardella wants time in the house to get anything that might tell the story of blackmail iffy but maybe, rape, gay pr0n, pics and anything else that might incriminate him out.

Why I'm iffy on the blackmail element is because tapes, home movies and pics of young boys would be worth a lot of money on the black market on their own. Why not blackmail though if they could get away with it? I guess.

 

[PaulSubetro]

He might also have been a bit intimidated by Szach, he's a loose cannon. He just killed someone, keep him stable and on side. He's also got the dirt on Gambardella etc.

And Gambardella wants time in the house to get anything that might tell the story of blackmail iffy but maybe, rape, gay pr0n, pics and anything else that might incriminate him out.

Why I'm iffy on the blackmail element is because tapes, home movies and pics of young boys would be worth a lot of money on the black market on their own. Why not blackmail though if they could get away with it? I guess.

The home-made pr0n (if it existed) may contribute to why Gamba helped clean up (assuming that's the case). Gamba had home made pr0n photos. Derrance allegedly had a VCR and maybe film equip.

But the blackmail theory doesn't add up. It's a former rent boy's theory. It looks like Szach killed Derrance and a few people helped him clean up. Hitmen also take their own weapons to a hit. They don't go to the vic's house and hope he has a loaded gun. The only possible way this could be a hit involving blackmail is if Szach was the hitman and that is really far fetched.

 

[Kurve]

- We know a young man with blonde shoulder length hair took a taxi from Derence's at approximately 11pm into the middle of the CBD. He had a brief case and garbage bag. This person was witnessed putting that garbage bag into a bin. Police searched for it but never recovered it.
- It probably wasn't Szach. He was in Port Wakefield an hour later (approximately 1 hour drive). Catching a cab to the city to dump evidence didn't make sense.
- So who is this man who grabbed the cab. Probably Alan Barnes because it's speculated the next day he was the man at Legal Aid.

The state iirc thinks it was Szach. Szach had a briefcase on the back seat of Derrance's car but most lawyers would have more than a couple of briefcases lying around.

I think the young man dumping a garbage bag was Barnes. He was likely given or took bits and pieces from Derrance's house, junk in the garbage bag he didn't really want, told to get rid of. Money, jewellery and drugs in the briefcase to keep for himself and pretend he was never there.

Gambardella would have left with whatever might have incriminated him, he couldn't trust anybody else with it.

 

[Kurve]

No mention of any of the Family Murders victims ever having been in a freezer at any point?

 

[Kurve]

Remember the mugshot of Szach? That was during his relationship with Derrance. He looked in pretty bad shape. I wonder if he was using?

Not sure I've seen it but the police interview with Szach has an interesting snippet in it.

‘Why did you come to Coober Pedy then? Did you have an argument with him?’

‘No, nothing silly like that. Actually, he’s never said an unkind word to me. I got into some trouble with the police, and when Derrance found out, he gave me a proper thrashing, but he didn’t hurt me really. He just couldn’t bring himself to hurt me. I came here to do opal mining. Derrance had this psychic flash that I was on opal, so I came back.’

 

[Bits]

mugshot at 41:20 of episode 5