Mystery The Great Pyramid and the Sphinx

[grizzlym]

There is nothing quite like the great pyramid. It's simply huge. And so overwhelmingly impressive both in its scale and construction achievement, that you can't but help wonder how the frack they built it.

I've visited it a heap of times - living in Cairo kind of helped things - and hung with people who dug around Egypt, and nothing, in my book, prepares you for standing in front of it.

Over the centuries, never more than now it seems, there have been questions about who built it, why they built it, and how they built it.

I'm not forgetting the Sphinx either - well, it's actually easy to when you're there in the flesh 'cause it's kind of a trinket next to Cheops, but it has its own devotees and attendant stories, least of all the Hall of Records theory espoused by Edgar Cayce.

There is no doubt the great pyramid contains many hidden features and the like. The Guttenburg robot seemed to be on the brink of finding something before Hawass, in his own puritanical Indiana Jones style, leaped in and shut it all down.

Then Hawass appears a few years later with his Pay TV specials on the Osiris tombs.

And then there is the Giza plateau, riddled with tunnels and tombs, all bristling with their own mysteries. Having had the fortune of going down in a couple of these tunnel structures, I can tell you that there are substantial diggings going on right under the surface.

Now Egypt is in turmoil many of the digs are closed. And those closed digs are getting looted by the very people who used to preserve them.

Anyway, tlk about all things to do with the pyramids, the sphinx and associated Egypt related mystery stuff here.

I'll post a bunch of videos here soon.

 

[grizzlym]

I've always found the the conventional theory tendered for how they built the pyramid to be father improbable.

This recent theory proposed by a French architect is brilliant and completely plausible.

it basically involves an 'indoor ramp' which would still be in place.

He also explains, with as much clarity and precision, from a totally engineering and construction viewpoint the purpose of the Great Chamber with its vaulted roof and what it's for.

The latest update of this is they were waiting on probing what was in the 'gap'.



Worth a look purely from a construction point of view.

 

[grizzlym]

Then there is Robert Bauval and robert Schoch and their whole 'Sphinx is much older' spiel.

 

[van peebles]

edgar cayce deserves his own thread ,mind boggling predictions

 

[bkozican]

The pyramid that we all know was just the last version of others that had come before it. I wish the county wasn't such a violent place right now as one of my dreams is go and see these great things. The sphinx in egypt is not one of a kind. I think they found one submerged and in other locations of the globe. It is said that there is treasure/items at the bottom of what ever it is on top of. No one has yet to go down.

 

[H2F]

There is no better place to start than here on the Great Pyramid.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

There is no better place to start than here on the Great Pyramid.

Yes, that doco did it for me.

Everyone must watch this.

The symmetry involved in the face carving, and the mathematics and engineering..... egyptian slaves did not build the pyramids.

 

[H2F]

But, but they did.

They just used these.

 

[little graham]

Those who built Giza made pilgrimages to their mecca, their mecca was a civilization living around what now is Gosford.They would come here for spiritual realignment as in this country, before whites over run it, religion worked.With the enviornment here and its isolation, it had to. Gizans knew this.

Doesn't really matter what they come here for, it matters that they were able to get here, which backs up what "Revelations of the pyrimids" rekons

 

[Butane]

Those who built Giza made pilgrimages to their mecca, their mecca was a civilization living around what now is Gosford.They would come here for spiritual realignment as in this country, before whites over run it, religion worked.With the enviornment here and its isolation, it had to. Gizans knew this.

Wait, let me get this right. The people who built the Giza pyramids up to 3'500 years ago went on a pilgrimage to Gosford in modern day New South Wales, Australia to realign their spirits because the environment suited them.

 

[little graham]

Some say about 4500 years ago. There's Egyptian tombs in this country. If they can build earthquake proof mega structures and wer able to measure the speed of light, precisely, it wouldn't be difficult getting here.

 

[Geelong_Sicko]

Wait, let me get this right. The people who built the Giza pyramids up to 3'500 years ago went on a pilgrimage to Gosford in modern day New South Wales, Australia to realign their spirits because the environment suited them.

There's some hieroglyphs carved into the rock around Gosford

http://www.unexplainedaustralia.com/e107_plugins/content/content.php?content.78

but then again

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-12-14/glyphs-reax/4428134

...Professor Ockinga, who first saw the inscriptions 20 years ago, says there are many reasons why they are not accepted as genuine hieroglyphics.

"First of all the way they're cut is not the way ancient Egyptian rock inscriptions are produced, they're very disorganised," he said.

"There's also a problem with the actual shapes of the signs that are used.

"There's no way people would've been inscribing texts from the time of Cheops from the signs that

weren't invented until 2500 years later.

"That's a chronological discrepancy," he said.

In other words symbols from Egyptian eras thousands of years apart have been grouped together...

 

[little graham]

http://www.unexplainedaustralia.com/e107_plugins/content/content.php?content.78

but then again

The basis of his denial

If by any chance they had reached Australia, you'd expect them to land on the west coast rather than over on the east coast,"

Guy must be a fool, if the Egyptians were able to build structures that outlast anything we can build today, had 3d technology for carving, but somehow are confined to only to be able to land on the west coast.

 

[Butane]

Guy must be a fool, if the Egyptians were able to build structures that outlast anything we can build today, had 3d technology for carving, but somehow are confined to only to be able to land on the west coast.

I can tell you're going to be an awesome asset to this board.

The Egyptians couldn't build anything better than what we can build today. Sure we can't explain exactly how they did it thousands of years ago but at the end of the day we have far superior technology now than we did then. Again, this is taking nothing away from how advanced they were for their time.

 

[little graham]

I can tell you're going to be an awesome asset to this board.

The Egyptians couldn't build anything better than what we can build today. Sure we can't explain exactly how they did it thousands of years ago but at the end of the day we have far superior technology now than we did then. Again, this is taking nothing away from how advanced they were for their time.

So if we are so far advanced, how come we can't reverse engineer what they did, since we can't do that, how can there be any argument that we're more advanced.

Its irational and baseless to say what they could'nt do.

 

[Butane]

So if we are so far advanced, how come we can't reverse engineer what they did, since we can't do that, how can there be any argument that we're more advanced.

Its irational and baseless to say what they could'nt do.

We could and have built structures far more advanced than the pyramids. Any structure built in Tokyo uses more maths to absorb earthquakes than a solid pyramid shaped structure. Just becauses we don't know how they did it exactly, doesn't mean we can't do it better. We can split the atom, send men to the moon, land and control robots on Mars, build underwater tunnels between mainland europe and Great Britain and transfer organs between people.

You can't say the Egyptians were technologically superior.

 

[little graham]

We could and have built structures far more advanced than the pyramids. Any structure built in Tokyo uses more maths to absorb earthquakes than a solid pyramid shaped structure. Just becauses we don't know how they did it exactly, doesn't mean we can't do it better. We can split the atom, send men to the moon, land and control robots on Mars, build underwater tunnels between mainland europe and Great Britain and transfer organs between people.

You can't say the Egyptians were technologically superior.

This is head in the sand post.
We know they're technically superior, not just by there structures they left, but their wisdom about the cycles civilizations go threw.

Those buildings in japan will not last unless they get maintenance. So we split the atom, can you guarantee the Egyptians did not? When there is axis shift on this planet, something the Egyptians recorded and studied, do you think those tunnels you speak of will survive? do you think they can handle no maintenance? If we had any idea about health , maybe we wouldn't need to transfer organs, if we had any clue on the futility of war, we wouldn't of learned how to.

 

[Yidaki]

It was aliens.

 

[little graham]

It was aliens.

They admit to a war (on most probably mars) a war between two brothers, settled by a third. Most dreamtime stories allude to something similar.

 

[carnthemlions]

This is head in the sand post.
We know they're technically superior, not just by there structures they left, but their wisdom about the cycles civilizations go threw.

Those buildings in japan will not last unless they get maintenance. So we split the atom, can you guarantee the Egyptians did not? When there is axis shift on this planet, something the Egyptians recorded and studied, do you think those tunnels you speak of will survive? do you think they can handle no maintenance? If we had any idea about health , maybe we wouldn't need to transfer organs, if we had any clue on the futility of war, we wouldn't of learned how to.

This is great stuff.
Can you start a thread and make a list of all your theories? We are clearly in need of enlightenment.

 

[Chameleon75]

This is head in the sand post.
We know they're technically superior, not just by there structures they left, but their wisdom about the cycles civilizations go threw.

Those buildings in japan will not last unless they get maintenance. So we split the atom, can you guarantee the Egyptians did not? When there is axis shift on this planet, something the Egyptians recorded and studied, do you think those tunnels you speak of will survive? do you think they can handle no maintenance? If we had any idea about health , maybe we wouldn't need to transfer organs, if we had any clue on the futility of war, we wouldn't of learned how to.

Modern buildings have a 50 year design life. Engineers design for failure, keeps the costs down.

 

[little graham]

Modern buildings have a 50 year design life. Engineers design for failure, keeps the costs down.

How much has it cost to maintain the pyrimids?? As much as replacing a modern skyscraper every 50 years for 4500 years?

You really think they're keeping costs down? Do you really consider we as advanced intellectually as they were?

 

[Butane]

This is head in the sand post.
We know they're technically superior, not just by there structures they left, but their wisdom about the cycles civilizations go threw.

Those buildings in japan will not last unless they get maintenance. So we split the atom, can you guarantee the Egyptians did not? When there is axis shift on this planet, something the Egyptians recorded and studied, do you think those tunnels you speak of will survive? do you think they can handle no maintenance? If we had any idea about health , maybe we wouldn't need to transfer organs, if we had any clue on the futility of war, we wouldn't of learned how to.

But Japan could create a giant pyramid that could last longer than the ancient Egyptian ones. Easily.

 

[little graham]

But Japan could create a giant pyramid that could last longer than the ancient Egyptian ones. Easily.

Could they? Why haven't they? Nuclear power plants have the ability to destroy the planet and they couldn't maintain electricity to the cooling systems, the cooling systems vital to saftey.

 

[Chameleon75]

How much has it cost to maintain the pyrimids?? As much as replacing a modern skyscraper every 50 years for 4500 years?

You really think they're keeping costs down? Do you really consider we as advanced intellectually as they were?

you can argue all you like, but it is a fact that you design for failure, in other words you design for it to fail. As a practicing engineer with 20 yrs experience i can assure you of this. Three things determine the feasibility of a project 1 cost 2 cost and 3 cost. we dont have slaves anymore its expensive to build, and I can assure the guy financing the project doesnt care how long a building lasts just as long as he gets a return and in his life time, the fact that buildings dont last much past their design life demonstrates the knowledge in materials and material behavior (keep in mind design life and service life are different).

Want to speculate about ancient structures, knock yourself out. But making unfounded comments about modern structures highlights your lack of knowledge and undermines your argument.