The Greens

[kickazz]

Bandts tweet was about securing the youth vote as they would expect a lot of the Drs and Lawyers wives votes to go towards the independents.

Yeah, for some time now the Greens have shifted their focus from pressuring/influencing the major parties on climate policy toward maximising the $ received from getting their share of first preference votes. It's why their messaging has become more scattered and populist amongst their targeted demographic; rather than following a consistent strategy that supports their core values.

 

[Kram]

Yep they aren't really about actually achieving anything useful at all.

 

[Saint]

Good. Animal cruelty for entertainment is vile to me.

But animal cruelty in the form of a half-baked policy announcement completely underfunded which would lead to the slaughter of thousands of horses is fine?

As long as you can feel superior about yourself than those poor masses who like horse racing.

 

[kranky al]

We cannot allow the crazy Greens extreme left-wing agenda be imposed on Australians. They are insane!

The extreme left is an ideology demanding state ownership of all industries, real estate, utilities and businesses.

You saying the greens are the extreme left when their actual policies espouse 1/50th of that ideology, just shows exactly how weapons grade propaganda works on the easily lead.

Just for the record the greens are pro private home ownership, pro small business remaining in private hands, pro big business remaining in private hands.

The only “far left” ideal they have is utilities being in government hands. They have this in common with, for instance : colin barnetts liberal government who refussd to privatise western power.


Your post is an absolute case in point, living proof of the drop in education standards. Critical thinking isnt being taught.

You are propagandised that “x” is the truth, and despite the easy availability of information, with a few keystrokes on the handheld device you own, you can filter out that you have been lied to - instead you have chosen to swallow that lie uncritically when “y” is the case and is easily found with a simple search.




I dont blame you, you are a deliberately engineered product that is described by propagandists as a useful idiot.

 

[Hawk Dork]

Yep they aren't really about actually achieving anything useful at all.

they trigger you without even trying

 

[ExcitementMachine]

I find it hilarious how one tweet about tolerating 18 year olds smoking cones is met with frothing at the mouth, "back in my day" boomerism. Thanks for showing your age!

I told you about a friend of mine who started out as a bong head and has now wounded up dead. This was ridiculed or laughed at by greens voters in defence of Brandt.

The obtuse nature of greens voters on this board is ironic considering they purport they are the moral alternative who don't wedge or compromise.

It shows to me that you lack empathy.

 

[Hawk Dork]

Isnt legalising dope a known Greens Policy ?

Legalise It | Australian Greens

greens.org.au

 

[Gralin]

I told you about a friend of mine who started out as a bong head and has now wounded up dead. This was ridiculed or laughed at by greens voters in defence of Brandt.

The obtuse nature of greens voters on this board is ironic considering they purport they are the moral alternative who don't wedge or compromise.

It shows to me that you lack empathy.

Are you for or against alcohol?

 

[Kram]

Are you for or against alcohol?

Why do people bring this up as if it is somehow relevant?

 

[Gralin]

Why do people bring this up as if it is somehow relevant?

because they brought it up and I couldn't tell if they were being serious or sarcastic

if he'd said get on the beers instead of smoke some weed nobody would have batted an eye

but the beers are much more likely to lead to a bad outcome than the weed

 

[kickazz]

because they brought it up and I couldn't tell if they were being serious or sarcastic

if he'd said get on the beers instead of smoke some weed nobody would have batted an eye

but the beers are much more likely to lead to a bad outcome than the weed

I think it's more the implication of doing nothing for society or yourself for two years that people take issue with - who cares whether that's because of smoking weed, sinking piss, jerking off or spending all afternoon at the TAB?

Most messages to high school graduates are more along the lines of potential, the world is your oyster, encouraging them, that sort of thing. This message came across as lame, defeatist and glorifying mediocrity.

 

[Kram]

because they brought it up and I couldn't tell if they were being serious or sarcastic

if he'd said get on the beers instead of smoke some weed nobody would have batted an eye

but the beers are much more likely to lead to a bad outcome than the weed

This is absolute rubbish, if he said not work and sink piss instead my reaction would be the same and as I'm sure so would a lot of others.

 

[Gralin]

I think it's more the implication of doing nothing for society or yourself for two years that people take issue with - who cares whether that's because of smoking weed, sinking piss, jerking off or spending all afternoon at the TAB?

Most messages to high school graduates are more along the lines of potential, the world is your oyster, encouraging them, that sort of thing. This message came across as lame, defeatist and glorifying mediocrity.

who gives a shit what anyone else is doing with their time
this idea that you're 18 and you should have your life planned out and be working or at uni is crap

whatever happened to gap years

who says they aren't working or studying while smoking weed

you're just associating someone not having any idea about what they want to do with them doing nothing

the old dole bludging stoner

This is absolute rubbish, if he said not work and sink piss instead my reaction would be the same and I'm sure would a lot of others.

uh huh, wouldn't having anything to do with the party the person tweeting it supports either would it

but again, you were not the poster that said they should tell them to drink piss not smoke weed

 

[Hawk Dork]

This is absolute rubbish, if he said not work and sink piss instead my reaction would be the same and as I'm sure so would a lot of others.

What if they have a trust fund does that make it ok ?

 

[kickazz]

who gives a sh*t what anyone else is doing with their time
this idea that you're 18 and you should have your life planned out and be working or at uni is crap

and out comes the strawman......

 

[Gough]

I think it's more the implication of doing nothing for society or yourself for two years that people take issue with - who cares whether that's because of smoking weed, sinking piss, jerking off or spending all afternoon at the TAB?

Most messages to high school graduates are more along the lines of potential, the world is your oyster, encouraging them, that sort of thing. This message came across as lame, defeatist and glorifying mediocrity.

A lot of boys in particular need time for their eq to catch up with their iq and while sitting around smoking dope might not be the answer failing first year uni probably isn't much help either.

because they brought it up and I couldn't tell if they were being serious or sarcastic

if he'd said get on the beers instead of smoke some weed nobody would have batted an eye

but the beers are much more likely to lead to a bad outcome than the weed

My doc has told me that hands down the worst thing about pot is actually smoking it, as a narcotic it's far less damaging than drink.

 

[Kram]

who gives a sh*t what anyone else is doing with their time
this idea that you're 18 and you should have your life planned out and be working or at uni is crap

whatever happened to gap years

who says they aren't working or studying while smoking weed

you're just associating someone not having any idea about what they want to do with them doing nothing

the old dole bludging stoner


uh huh, wouldn't having anything to do with the party the person tweeting it supports either would it

but again, you were not the poster that said they should tell them to drink piss not smoke weed

Mate a lot of kids might need a break I don't care what they do during that time but it's still a very silly thing to come from a political leader.

Most politicians are peanuts but I think almost anyone else would have said it differently and made the same point. He even had time to think about it before typing it! Sorry the bloke is a complete halfwit.

 

[kickazz]

A lot of boys in particular need time for their eq to catch up with their iq and while sitting around smoking dope might not be the answer failing first year uni probably isn't much help either.

Totally agree with your first bit - but I think failing at something isn't all that bad (unless the process itself damages you to a really high degree). They say you often learn and grow more from failure - it's part of growing up. Fear of failure can lead people to avoid taking chances on life that lead them to miss out.

Not having life mapped out and ready is normal and it's troubling how much anxiety it can cause for some - it paralysed me to some degree and I recon the one bit of advice I'd give young people now is to not worry so much if you are on your 'right' path, but to give it (whatever that 'it' may be at the time) the best shot you can - you'll either make something of it, or learn it's not for you and have no regrets that you didn't give it a good try. Of course this needs to be tempered with a bit of "smell the roses" (or take it easy, have a beer/joint) along the way. Incessantly pursuing goals without enjoying the journey leads to a miserable life if you ask me.

Perhaps that was closer to what he was trying to say. I certainly hope so.

 

[Gough]

Totally agree with your first bit - but I think failing at something isn't all that bad (unless the process itself damages you to a really high degree). They say you often learn and grow more from failure - it's part of growing up. Fear of failure can lead people to avoid taking chances on life that lead them to miss out.

Not having life mapped out and ready is normal and it's troubling how much anxiety it can cause for some - it paralysed me to some degree and I recon the one bit of advice I'd give young people now is to not worry so much if you are on your 'right' path, but to give it (whatever that 'it' may be at the time) the best shot you can - you'll either make something of it, or learn it's not for you and have no regrets that you didn't give it a good try. Of course this needs to be tempered with a bit of "smell the roses" (or take it easy, have a beer/joint) along the way. Incessantly pursuing goals without enjoying the journey leads to a miserable life if you ask me.

Perhaps that was closer to what he was trying to say. I certainly hope so.

I think it was, as I said before it was a clumsy way of say your ATAR won't define your life and coming from a Green it was always going to provoke ire from certain quarters; maybe he was doing a bit of shit stirring too? Matt Canavan fondling coal on Afternoon Briefing twice a week isn't the only one who can indulge in that sort of thing.

 

[Gralin]

and out comes the strawman......

no strawman from me
the tweet had nothing about dole bludging in it, that was an inference from yourself and kram

 

[Gralin]

Totally agree with your first bit - but I think failing at something isn't all that bad (unless the process itself damages you to a really high degree). They say you often learn and grow more from failure - it's part of growing up. Fear of failure can lead people to avoid taking chances on life that lead them to miss out.

Not having life mapped out and ready is normal and it's troubling how much anxiety it can cause for some - it paralysed me to some degree and I recon the one bit of advice I'd give young people now is to not worry so much if you are on your 'right' path, but to give it (whatever that 'it' may be at the time) the best shot you can - you'll either make something of it, or learn it's not for you and have no regrets that you didn't give it a good try. Of course this needs to be tempered with a bit of "smell the roses" (or take it easy, have a beer/joint) along the way. Incessantly pursuing goals without enjoying the journey leads to a miserable life if you ask me.

Perhaps that was closer to what he was trying to say. I certainly hope so.

Uni is kind of setup that if you fail you're done

 

[Taylor]

Uni is kind of setup that if you fail you're done

*fail enough times and don't change your major

 

[kickazz]

Uni is kind of setup that if you fail you're done

Done in Uni or done in life?

 

[Gralin]

Done in Uni or done in life?

done several thousand dollars in fees at a bare minimum
removed from a course, have to change majors, get accepted elsewhere

going to uni when you're not ready is a pretty big waste of time and money

doesn't mean your life is over, same as if you wait a year or two to work out what your doing

 

[kickazz]

done several thousand dollars in fees at a bare minimum
removed from a course, have to change majors, get accepted elsewhere

going to uni when you're not ready is a pretty big waste of time and money

doesn't mean your life is over, same as if you wait a year or two to work out what your doing

Not a waste of time I recon. Waste of money unfortunately that seems to be getting truer as the years go by