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Look, you can argue all day about who's been accused of what and who's been convicted of that, but I think at the end of the day most people understand that it's highly unlikely that anyone can just wear the colours of a 1%er motorcycle gang without demonstrating a capacity to do things most of the rest of society would balk at. It should be no different if Thorpe was on a committee looking into historical sexual abuse within the Catholic Church and she was caught dating someone who once occupied a prominent position within that hierarchy. It's simply a conflict of interest based on what group Dean Martin has represented for years: a group whose members have been caught committing crimes, more so than most other motorcycle groups. Dean Martin himself may not be a criminal, but that's not the point. The 1%er patch represents something and is earnt, so by wearing it he's representing something much bigger than just himself.
 

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She told people she worked with, clearly no she couldn't have been blackmailed it wasn't an actual secret
She could have been blackmailed for a myriad of things if she were to be influenced and lose capacity.
 
Lidia is nasty, race baiting trailer trash. Never had any business in our senate. Shame on you greens voters! Who here is honestly surprised she is neck deep with leading organised crime figures? Bandt showed his true colours by appointing her to a leadership position in his party in the first place and is now protecting her from an instant dismissal she richly deserves.
 
Absolutely stiff, but at least it’s just stepping down as deputy leader and she hasn’t lost her job.

Half of the Liberals should be in jail but aren’t so unfortunately Parliamentary standards are non existent. Hilarious to see the outraged RWNJ’s come out and have a cry, mainly to cover the fact that they got the country in a Trillion dollars of debt and have taken zero responsibility over it.
 
Lidia is nasty, race baiting trailer trash. Never had any business in our senate. Shame on you greens voters! Who here is honestly surprised she is neck deep with leading organised crime figures? Bandt showed his true colours by appointing her to a leadership position in his party in the first place and is now protecting her from an instant dismissal she richly deserves.
No need to be racist, delete your post.
 
Yes blackmailing is so bad when the Libs just skipped that bit and did all of the criminal acts themselves directly. Stop having a cry and get a f***ing grip.
I hate the libs you ****wit. Not that this issue has anything to do with politics.

Even her own party are looking down on this shit for obvious reasons.
 
Lidia is nasty, race baiting trailer trash. Never had any business in our senate. Shame on you greens voters! Who here is honestly surprised she is neck deep with leading organised crime figures? Bandt showed his true colours by appointing her to a leadership position in his party in the first place and is now protecting her from an instant dismissal she richly deserves.
Dutton has no right to be in parliament.He's a climate criminal, liar, corrupt and has a long history of racist and misogonistic comments.
He protected George Christensen, Brigett Archer, Christian Porter and a heap of other criminal coalition MPs.
He defended George Pell.
He walked out on the Indigenous apology.
He made border force send sms's on election day.
He's a homophobe and a transphobe.
 

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I prefer the preceding tweet

But her staff complained to Bandts office and got the Sargent shultz from them
which is a greens internal issue which is what this whole thing seems to be about
Gralin got in first
there was no girl bossing or suggestion she was love sick
She could have been blackmailed for a myriad of things if she were to be influenced and lose capacity.
Blah blah blah
Lidia is nasty, race baiting trailer trash. Never had any business in our senate. Shame on you greens voters! Who here is honestly surprised she is neck deep with leading organised crime figures? Bandt showed his true colours by appointing her to a leadership position in his party in the first place and is now protecting her from an instant dismissal she richly deserves.
You're a racist thanks for playing
Absolutely stiff, but at least it’s just stepping down as deputy leader and she hasn’t lost her job.

Half of the Liberals should be in jail but aren’t so unfortunately Parliamentary standards are non existent. Hilarious to see the outraged RWNJ’s come out and have a cry, mainly to cover the fact that they got the country in a Trillion dollars of debt and have taken zero responsibility over it.
Deputy senate leader
 
It seems the same people defending Thorpe and Martin are those that called for the head of Andrew Thorburn.

Association with a church by a football CEO: Sackable offence.
Association with a leader from an outlaw MC by a senator: Nothing to see here.

Happy for people to be consistent and think both of the above are unacceptable, but to tolerate Thorpe and not Thorburn is utter partisan madness.
 
Dutton has no right to be in parliament.He's a climate criminal, liar, corrupt and has a long history of racist and misogonistic comments.
He protected George Christensen, Brigett Archer, Christian Porter and a heap of other criminal coalition MPs.
He defended George Pell.
He walked out on the Indigenous apology.
Nothing you said there has any relevance to the situation at hand. A nasty, divisive blight on the senate and country now linked to organised crime
I prefer the preceding tweet


which is a greens internal issue which is what this whole thing seems to be about

there was no girl bossing or suggestion she was love sick

Blah blah blah

You're a racist thanks for playing

Deputy senate leader

Lidia is nasty and divisive. Not racist to point out the obvious. Ohhh and she's sleeping with organised crime boss's! Shocked!!
 
It seems the same people defending Thorpe and Martin are those that called for the head of Andrew Thorburn.

Association with a church by a football CEO: Sackable offence.
Association with a leader from an outlaw MC by a senator: Nothing to see here.

Happy for people to be consistent and think both of the above are unacceptable, but to tolerate Thorpe and not Thorburn is utter partisan madness.
Look at you bringing homophobia and religion into an unrelated thread
 
Nothing you said there has any relevance to the situation at hand. A nasty, divisive blight on the senate and country now linked to organised crime

Lidia is nasty and divisive. Not racist to point out the obvious. Ohhh and she's sleeping with organised crime boss's! Shocked!!
Race baiting is white supremacist bullshit ergo you're being a racist enjoy
 
That was a typo. I meant “organised crime group", I thought that was pretty obvious.
Exactly, you know what an organised crime group is, so don't play dumb when it comes to an individual member of such.

I genuinely don’t understand what you mean by an “organised criminal”, as opposed to a "criminal", but FWIW I assume most members of an organised crime gang would engage in criminal behaviour... is that better?
"Most", meaning not all. Congratulations, you've come around to my point of view! The club has a purpose outside of crime, so I'd imagine there are actually many members who are not engaging in criminal behaviour.

It means that they are outside of the law. It is one way they label themselves as "outlaws", which they also self-identify as.
I suppose you don't care what the word outlaw means?
The term comes from the motorcycle clubs who refused to follow the rules of the American Motorcyclist Association, so they described themselves as outlaws in that sense, not necessarily because they're all openly criminals. And that same term and culture got imported here. Swing and a miss, I'm afraid.

... which would make Dean Martin a criminal, as they pleaded guilty to selling liquor without a licence and dealing with property suspected of being the proceeds of crime.
Was he implicated in this?

Crooked, how?
"Cooked", because your definition of criminal is absurd if it covers people who simply associate with those who have committed crimes, rather than those who actually commit crimes.

If you are not only associated with, but the president of a criminal enterprise that engages in murder, drug trafficking, armed weapons trade etc. then your freedoms will be compromised.
Has Dean Martin been implicated in any of these crimes?

This seems reasonable to me, in the same way that someone who is a leader of a terrorist cell would have their freedoms compromised even if they had not themselves committed a terrorist act.
So you're likening Dean Martin to a terrorist?
 
Nothing you said there has any relevance to the situation at hand. A nasty, divisive blight on the senate and country now linked to organised crime

Lidia is nasty and divisive. Not racist to point out the obvious. Ohhh and she's sleeping with organised crime boss's! Shocked!!
She's been punished , don't get carried away. He had no convictions and they briefly dated over a year ago.
Notva good look but have a look in your own backyard.
Scomo's best mate was a Qanon nut and his next best mate ,Brian Houston was charged for not reporting his father's paedophilia.
 

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