The Greens

[Demons09]

Yep can see what pot does to people just by reading this thread you would have to be delusional to vote for a two bit party like the Greens.

 

[Gralin]

Amazing at how many jimmies get rustled at the idea that weed isn't worse than horse racing

 

[kranky al]

How is it literally impossible? If the Greens make ordinary voters scared to vote progressive, it holds back progress.

Progressive 'politics' didn't make marriage equality a centrist issue, 'social' progress did. Surely, if your hypothesis is true, then more voters would be turning to the Greens?

Likewise with climate. Science is making progress where progressive politics in Australia have failed for decades. Again, despite social progress, still no more votes for the Greens?

Meanwhile, the overall polity is moving to the right, less progressive taxes, more trickle down nonsense.

There must be something the Greens are doing wrong to have people start to agree with their core policies yet still not vote for them.

If the ALP are a centre-right party, does that mean 90% of the electorate are to the right? Or maybe, just maybe, you're wrong about where the centre is?

We have weapons grade propaganda telling the dimwits in this country who are absolute political neophytes that the greens are the extreme left.

Despite almost none of their policies resembling the extreme left but thats fine as the great unwashed dont bother investigating for themselves and just believe it.

 

[Saint]

We have weapons grade propaganda telling the dimwits in this country who are absolute political neophytes that the greens are the extreme left.

Despite almost none of their policies resembling the extreme left but thats fine as the great unwashed dont bother investigating for themselves and just believe it.

Which is why it's so critical for the Greens not to give the media ANY ammunition at all with policies which can ONLY be used to upset people and let the media think they're stupid in return for zero extra votes. (See Horse Racing bans)

 

[Gralin]

Which is why it's so critical for the Greens not to give the media ANY ammunition at all with policies which can ONLY be used to upset people and let the media think they're stupid in return for zero extra votes. (See Horse Racing bans)

Horse racing is shit and it should be banned
At least their proposal includes details on how to fund and do it
You're foaming like yhr dribblers you claim not to be

We've already got the ALP refusing to talk about anything out of fear and ****ing cowards the lot of them for it

 

[Nuggs Bunny]

Which is why it's so critical for the Greens not to give the media ANY ammunition at all with policies which can ONLY be used to upset people and let the media think they're stupid in return for zero extra votes. (See Horse Racing bans)

I think the Greens do well enough as it is without morphing into a centrist party like you're angling for. Leave the centrism to the ALP.

 

[Carringbush2010]

I think overall, they're just bad at the politics side of things. They think having the most moral policies is all you have to do. Then bang on about them.

They're the political equivalent of the Charge of the Light Brigade. All valour, no result.

Seems you value their sentiment but are frustrated at the 'at everyone's costs' mantra (if indeed that is).

I think the centred majority are keen on progressive policy but are averse to the compromise of the means to get there. Yours truly am concerned on how the Greens would go about it.

 

[Saint]

Horse racing is sh*t and it should be banned
At least their proposal includes details on how to fund and do it
You're foaming like yhr dribblers you claim not to be

We've already got the ALP refusing to talk about anything out of fear and ******* cowards the lot of them for it

Much better to talk a big game and lose because the media turns it into a fear-fest?

The only problem is holding their nerve once they do win the election. (That's a Greens/ALP minority Govt)

The media will do what they did last time and divide and conquer the ALP who are too easily fractured from within, but at least they can try to get stuff done in the meantime.

None of this is great, but that's politics.

I would bet good money that if you asked every Greens member if they should ban religions, you'd probably get an affirmative response. It might be a good policy, even costed, but it doesn't mean it's not electoral suicide.

The Greens would rather take the moral high ground and call everyone who compromises a coward than to swallow a tough decision now and then, if they don't get everything they want.

 

[Nuggs Bunny]

I would bet good money that if you asked every Greens member if they should ban religions, you'd probably get an affirmative response. It might be a good policy, even costed, but it doesn't mean it's not electoral suicide.

Wow

 

[Gralin]

Much better to talk a big game and lose because the media turns it into a fear-fest?

The only problem is holding their nerve once they do win the election. (That's a Greens/ALP minority Govt)

The media will do what they did last time and divide and conquer the ALP who are too easily fractured from within, but at least they can try to get stuff done in the meantime.

None of this is great, but that's politics.

I would bet good money that if you asked every Greens member if they should ban religions, you'd probably get an affirmative response. It might be a good policy, even costed, but it doesn't mean it's not electoral suicide.

The Greens would rather take the moral high ground and call everyone who compromises a coward than to swallow a tough decision now and then, if they don't get everything they want.

You're a parody account right?

 

[Kram]

Yep can see what pot does to people just by reading this thread you would have to be delusional to vote for a two bit party like the Greens.

It amuses me greatly that 2 of the biggest advocates for smoking pot on this board have been on the dole for god knows how many years, basically living and breathing advertisements for the anti stance on the drug.

 

[SSwans2011]

Much better to talk a big game and lose because the media turns it into a fear-fest?

The only problem is holding their nerve once they do win the election. (That's a Greens/ALP minority Govt)

The media will do what they did last time and divide and conquer the ALP who are too easily fractured from within, but at least they can try to get stuff done in the meantime.

None of this is great, but that's politics.

I would bet good money that if you asked every Greens member if they should ban religions, you'd probably get an affirmative response. It might be a good policy, even costed, but it doesn't mean it's not electoral suicide.

The Greens would rather take the moral high ground and call everyone who compromises a coward than to swallow a tough decision now and then, if they don't get everything they want.

How many strawmans do you want to base your despise for The Greens on?

 

[SSwans2011]

It amuses me greatly that 2 of the biggest advocates for smoking pot on this board have been on the dole for god knows how many years, basically living and breathing advertisements for the anti stance on the drug.

What an inhumane and shit way of viewing people.

My dad's smoked pot virtually every day for decades. He spent over a decade in the Army, and has worked full-time ever since, while signle-handedly raiisng four children for a number of years. He's not experienced the life-threatening health consequences other members of my family have from alcohol - fancy that.

Pot and alcohol are things I've been surrounded by for large parts of my life, and I know which one has been more harmful to people I care about. I won't pretend pot doesn't come with its issues, and I've seen those issues manifest in other people. But that shouldn't ruin it for the people that can use it in a way that is harmless to other people, and in some cases therapeutically.

I also know that it's not my position to judge the lifestyles of those I don't agree with when they aren't hurting other people, beyond encouraging them to seek help when it's clearly needed.

 

[Herzog]

It amuses me greatly that 2 of the biggest advocates for smoking pot on this board have been on the dole for god knows how many years, basically living and breathing advertisements for the anti stance on the drug.

Arbeit macht frei

 

[kranky al]

Horse racing is sh*t and it should be banned
At least their proposal includes details on how to fund and do it
You're foaming like yhr dribblers you claim not to be

We've already got the ALP refusing to talk about anything out of fear and ******* cowards the lot of them for it

See if we had an even handed media this post would be spot on.


But we dont.

 

[Kram]

Horse racing is sh*t and it should be banned

I hate horse racing but surely it's not as bad as say factory farmed meat?

I wonder how many how many people that want horse racing banned are happy to munch on a ham sandwich.

 

[Bunk Moreland]

Horse racing is sh*t and it should be banned
At least their proposal includes details on how to fund and do it
You're foaming like yhr dribblers you claim not to be

We've already got the ALP refusing to talk about anything out of fear and ******* cowards the lot of them for it

“Details”

A few dot points about ending an industry worth tens of billions a year.

It’s Morrison-level stuff.

Give us a spell. Mehreen is a goose who knows absolutely nothing about racing. She wheels it out whenever the social media team need to improve the stats.

 

[Kram]

“Details”

A few dot points about ending an industry worth tens of billions a year.

Again I personally don't like it but did laugh when reading that bit on their website.

 

[Bunk Moreland]

I hate horse racing but surely it's not as bad as say factory farmed meat?

I wonder how many how many people that want horse racing banned are happy to munch on a ham sandwich.

They also own pets for their own entertainment, but that’s okay apparently.

I think we should ban domesticated animals because of the cruelty in the industry. We’d save a hell of a lot more animals than banning horse racing.

 

[Bunk Moreland]

Again I personally don't like it but did laugh when reading that bit on their website.

It’s taxed to the hilt and raises big revenue (big budget holes).

The industry and sub-industries are an enormous employer nationally. Unemployment, retraining, regional social issues with a significant source of local employment switched off.

But it’s all good, apparently they’ve got the details on how they’re gonna do it.

These people must be impressed by Morrison’s announcements, which pack a similar level of substance.

 

[Brad Goodman]

I watch horse racing, bet regularly etc etc, but to me the arguments for keeping it sound similar to the reasons for keeping coal.

 

[Herzog]

These people must be impressed by Morrison’s announcements, which pack a similar level of substance.

Someone needs to start the Surprise Party. They can make all sorts of promises and when asked how they're going to do it they can say it's a surprise.

 

[Johnny Bananas]

Someone needs to start the Surprise Party. They can make all sorts of promises and when asked how they're going to do it they can say it's a surprise.

They existed.

Thirty years since the 'Sun-Ripened Warm Tomato election'

It's 30 years on Monday since the 1989 election that created the first ACT Legislative Assembly.

www.canberratimes.com.au

 

[Gralin]

like i said

Horse racing bad + weed good = jimmies rustled

 

[Herzog]

They existed.

Thirty years since the 'Sun-Ripened Warm Tomato election'

It's 30 years on Monday since the 1989 election that created the first ACT Legislative Assembly.

www.canberratimes.com.au

There is nothing new under the sun.