The integrity of Gerard Whateley and Rohan Connolly

[Godallblighty]

There are serious questions about everything to do with the ACC and ASADA, but you won't find anyone on here wanting to discuss any of that.

Actually, from what I've read here and on other threads, people are clearly discussing it - and pretty rationally too in many cases. You just don't seem to like that your points are being refuted.

 

[Gigantor]

There may well be. But for now the 99.9% are focusing on the serious questions about how Essendon ran its supplements/drugs program without proper care for player health and safety.

People on BF are worried about the health and safety of Essendon players?
I haven't seen a whole lot of evidence of that.

 

[Gigantor]

Actually, from what I've read here and on other threads, people are clearly discussing it - and pretty rationally too in many cases. You just don't seem to like that your points are being refuted.

Which points are those?

 

[Gigantor]

So according to you Doctor Reids letter is not worthy of discussion?

The AFL's presentation of the long-lost letter was certainly dramatic.

What else do we know about it?

 

[Seadog]

Mate this thing was taken care of by Essendon
The ACC and ASADA need to look like they serve some purpose

What is apparent is that between the. ACC , ASADA and WADA they would not be sure whether panadol is legal

There is every possibility that if you ingested a herbal tea down Acland st, you would be in breach of the code

I could of sworn Essendon asked ASADA to do the investigation.

 

[blackcat]

When have you ever seen a document like the AFLs 34 page charge sheet?
Who has ever released anything like that into the public domain?

There is nothing like that on lance Armstrong

Hird should go nuclear on demetriou.

see reasoned decision by USADA. And Armstrong had the UCI captured. Be like Hird having Fitzpatrick be his PR flak for him.

 

[blackcat]

I could of sworn Essendon asked ASADA to do the investigation.

after they were tipped off that ACC was gonna drop a bomb

 

[Gigantor]

after they were tipped off that ACC was gonna drop a bomb

No, no - that never happened - AD has assured all of us.

 

[blackcat]

No, no - that never happened - AD has assured all of us.

in his defense it may not have been AD. It coulda been someone else. But i trust no one

 

[Gigantor]

in his defense it may not have been AD. It coulda been someone else. But i trust no one

Yeh, true, the message got through one way or the other, and with absolute clarity!

 

[yebiga]

http://d3epuodzu3wuis.cloudfront.net/2012-06-12+AFLD+Notice+Letter+REDACTED.pdf

The greatest drug cheat in professional sport
7 time Tour de France winner made a fool of WADA for a decade gets 15 pages
Hird gets 34

 

[mickeyjuice]

People on BF are worried about the health and safety of Essendon players?
I haven't seen a whole lot of evidence of that.

You're not looking too hard. Most people here who aren't Essendon supporters seem far more genuinely concerned for the players' welfare than Hird and Co, pharmacological experimentations.

 

[blackcat]

The greatest drug cheat in professional sport
7 time Tour de France winner made a fool of WADA for a decade gets 15 pages
Hird gets 34

reasoned decision after it was redacted pulled back to 150 pages, might have been over a thousand pages

 

[Ancient Tiger]

The greatest drug cheat in professional sport
7 time Tour de France winner made a fool of WADA for a decade gets 15 pages
Hird gets 34

To be fair on WADA, Lance was one man.
Essendon is a whole corporation!

 

[mickeyjuice]

Also, can ewe add SEN's Mark Fine to this list of moronic media commentators? I usually don't mind him in small bursts, but his pro-Hird rantings (which is bizarre, as he's a Saints man, but I suspect this appeals to his "rebel" fantasies) are of the level of most Bombers posters here. "NOBODY HAS BEEN CHARGED!!!!" No ******, we're waiting for the final report. Or the Rohanesque: "ASADA is a shitty organisation!!" Yeah, because it runs with less staff than SEN, but don't let reality intrude.

Really. I feel dirty when I listen to SEN most of the time, like most people with an IQ in triple digits.

 

[blackcat]

Essendon were trying to divert the WADA fine print.

Armstrong and USPS had no qualms about taking everything illegal and then denying it. The is NO comparison valid

 

[G.O.B]

Another puff piece on Hird in Robbo's Tackle in tomorrow's HS.

This particular line had me giggling:
Robbo:

For the first time, he said he would accept responsibility for what happened at the club at the end of 2011 and throughout 2012.

(talking about what Hird said at the presser last night)

Is he that pissed that he cant remember one of the more infamous quotes in this whole saga?

Sorry, no idea how to post the link.

 

[Gigantor]

You're not looking too hard. Most people here who aren't Essendon supporters seem far more genuinely concerned for the players' welfare than Hird and Co, pharmacological experimentations.

But those same people want to see the Essendon players done like a dinner.

 

[yebiga]

Essendon were trying to divert the WADA fine print.

Armstrong and USPS had no qualms about taking everything illegal and then denying it. The is NO comparison valid

Yes and ASADA misled the ACC about AOD
Hird and Dank must have manipulated ASADA to lie to the ACC

 

[Gigantor]

Yes and ASADA misled the ACC about AOD
Hird and Dank must have manipulated ASADA to lie to the ACC

Did Hird go that far?
What an evil man.

 

[kiwicrow]

The greatest drug cheat in professional sport
7 time Tour de France winner made a fool of WADA for a decade gets 15 pages
Hird gets 34

Yep, but he didn't oversee the injecting of unknown and potentially dangerous substances into, what, 38 impressionable young men under his care?

 

[kiwicrow]

Yes and ASADA misled the ACC about AOD
Hird and Dank must have manipulated ASADA to lie to the ACC

Speculation to suit your straw argument.

 

[yebiga]

Speculation to suit your straw argument.

Well then why did ASADA mislead the ACC about AOD?

 

[blackcat]

Yes and ASADA misled the ACC about AOD
Hird and Dank must have manipulated ASADA to lie to the ACC

no. Bill Kelty lent weight. And Abbott had already given a heads up.

you think that ASADA is there to ban athletes. its not. it is there as one of the pillars to help the marketing of sport to soccer moms. they are not there to tear down champions and heroes. If you think i am wrong, answer why they never went after Ian Thorpe for the lutenizing hormone positive.

 

[kiwicrow]

Well then why did ASADA mislead the ACC about AOD?

Speculation to suit your straw argument, still.