The Lyncha's Realism Stats Project

[The Lyncha]

With PSN down I've had a bit of time to fiddle with the stats to try and address some of the issues people have had with the game, mainly tackling and speed

I think I may have found a way to make the game more realistic speed wise as well as alot less ball ups after a tackle

With these changes the ball bobbles out of tackles a lot more, reducing the ball ups but keeping the scrappy nature around the contested ball

Here are the things I have changed
New Changes in bold
Change these for all players

Tackling -20 This change makes the ball bobble out of tackles more reduing the amount of instant ball ups/free kicks

Goal Kick, set shot & set shot banana -20 Makes the scorelines more realistic

Goal kick banana - 30 makes it difficult to kick a running banana goal with an average player

Break Tackle +10 Helps to get past the first tackle with strong/elusive players

Speed and accel I changed relative to original stats
90+ no change
85-89 -2
80-84 -5
70 or lower -10 stops fast players being chased down by very slow players

With these changes I have been able to go on a few runs with Rioli when he has a bit of space without being rundown by the slower players like mumford

Now I understand these will not be everyones cup of tea but if you have the time please try them and let me know what you think

The next thing I will be doing is to try and work on the goal kicking accuracy as I am finding that I only kick between 2-6 points per game and also very easy to kick running bannana goals regardless of the player

 

[formula1man]

how about making it harder but still be able to use the teams in season mode.

 

[The Lyncha]

how about making it harder but still be able to use the teams in season mode.

That's the plan I just need to figure out what to change the stats to

My stat changes actually bring team salaries down so season mode is not an issue

 

[The Lyncha]

Just finished playing Hawks v Crows, Legend, 5 mins
after changing Hawks goal kick, set shot, set shot banana -20 and goal kick banana -30
I did not change Adelaides goal kicking stats at all

Hawks(me) 12.10.82 Crows 7.8.50
I kicked away early and the Crows never recovered
This was a much more realistic score for me compared to the usual 15-20 goals 2-7 points so I was very happy with this outcome

My only concern is that if I had of changed the Crows goal stats they would have been even more inaccurate
I will change their stats tomorrow and see what happens

 

[formula1man]

That's the plan I just need to figure out what to change the stats to

My stat changes actually bring team salaries down so season mode is not an issue

If you edit a team they become footy factoried, and you cannot use an edited team in season mode. I have dropped my stats by 10 to make it harder but I cant use those teams in season mode, I have to use the default team.

 

[JordanWCE]

I tell you what, you sure are on to something, this works extremely well.

I tried this tonight, used Hawthorn and it was awesome to see Cyril breaking away from packs with the ball. Also had an awesome 4-bounce run with Bateman, Beams (was vs. Collingwood) was giving chase and just could not catch me, unfortunately I only managed to kick a point from that glorious run.

 

[The Lyncha]

I tell you what, you sure are on to something, this works extremely well.

I tried this tonight, used Hawthorn and it was awesome to see Cyril breaking away from packs with the ball. Also had an awesome 4-bounce run with Bateman, Beams (was vs. Collingwood) was giving chase and just could not catch me, unfortunately I only managed to kick a point from that glorious run.

Glad you liked it
So did you change the goal kicking stats or just speed and tackling
Also what was the score, difficulty and qtr length
Did you find it easier, harder or no change

If you could answer any of these questions it would be very helpfull

 

[BlackMamba]

Having the speed of players relatively increased, do you find the game is easier coz you can get away from the contest easier? I feel (without trying) that it could screw up the balancing of the game.

 

[The Lyncha]

Having the speed of players relatively increased, do you find the game is easier coz you can get away from the contest easier? I feel (without trying) that it could screw up the balancing of the game.

Yes and no
You can only really run away from the pack if you have a little space and have someone quick eg Rioli
In a game I played last night I tried to run away from dangerfield with hodge and got caught
Usually the team with the most players around the contest will win possession
The main thing I find these changes stop is being able to quickly make 2,3,4 tackles in a row with same player

 

[funkysven_4]

Yes and no
You can only really run away from the pack if you have a little space and have someone quick eg Rioli
In a game I played last night I tried to run away from dangerfield with hodge and got caught
Usually the team with the most players around the contest will win possession
The main thing I find these changes stop is being able to quickly make 2,3,4 tackles in a row with same player

I am liking the sound of this. Really wish AFL Live had a roster sharing system ala NBA 2K. Then we could share all the roster edits around easily and really open up the game and take it to the next level.

 

[El_Scorcho]

I like the ideas here, especially regarding speed. It would be nice to have a genuinely pacy player be able to break away once in the clear.

 

[JordanWCE]

Glad you liked it
So did you change the goal kicking stats or just speed and tackling
Also what was the score, difficulty and qtr length
Did you find it easier, harder or no change

If you could answer any of these questions it would be very helpfull

No, just changed the speed, acceleration and tackling.

IIRC the score was 84-68, on Veteran, 5 minute quarters. I might add I was down 38-62 at three quarter time, then came a 7 goals to 1 onslaught by the Hawks to beat the Pies!

It was a good challenge, it was awesome to be able break away from players, and equally awesome to see players like Dale Thomas and Brad Dick blast away from my Hawks players, even Jolly managed to go for a bit of a run at one stage as the only player I had chasing him was Renouf.

 

[The Lyncha]

No, just changed the speed, acceleration and tackling.

IIRC the score was 84-68, on Veteran, 5 minute quarters. I might add I was down 38-62 at three quarter time, then came a 7 goals to 1 onslaught by the Hawks to beat the Pies!

It was a good challenge, it was awesome to be able break away from players, and equally awesome to see players like Dale Thomas and Brad Dick blast away from my Hawks players, even Jolly managed to go for a bit of a run at one stage as the only player I had chasing him was Renouf.

Thanks for that mate
I have found since changing the goal kicking it is very difficult to kick 7 in a quarter, where as before I would do it a least once sometimes even twice a game
If you have the time give it a try

 

[The Lyncha]

Now changed the crows goal kicking and was surprised to find they were more accurate then last time
Hawks(me) 10.15.75 Crows 8.4.52
I only kicked 0.3 in the first qtr but kicked 6 in the 2nd to set up the win
Tackles were 55-95 in the Crows favor

I will try editing Collingwood now and see if they can kick a bigger score

 

[The Lyncha]

Here is my last test of Hawks v Crows
I wanted to test cpu v cpu here are the results
Crows 17.10.112 Hawks 12.4.76
Tackles 89-111
Besides the result (boo) it was good to see the cpu can kick a decent score

I did notice though the cpu doesn't ever use bump hence their high tackling stat
Hopefully this is fixed in the patch

 

[nick1408]

I'm not having any issues with excess tackling, pace etc. I am able to get the ball clear and run as I would expect. Would a change like this make the game too easy for me? I like the idea and the changes seem like the correct ones. Good idea and well done on them.

 

[The Lyncha]

I'm not having any issues with excess tackling, pace etc. I am able to get the ball clear and run as I would expect. Would a change like this make the game too easy for me? I like the idea and the changes seem like the correct ones. Good idea and well done on them.

I don't think it's made the game easier as the stats apply to the cpu as well
It definatly makes set shot goal kicking more difficult which is a good thing as they were far too easy before

 

[nick1408]

Yeah, I agree that the goal kicking is too easy but I thought that all the speed settings were already pretty good. Same with tackling. I just needed to master the controls.

 

[The Lyncha]

Finally got around to changing Collingwoods stats
5 min qtrs, Legend

Hawks(me) 7.8.50 Pies 8.9.57

Was a tough game with the pies leading from start to finish
I really enjoyed it as I would normally smash them by 6 goals
They kicked 1.5 in the first so if they were more accurate I probably would have lost by 4 or 5

Tackles were 108-85 my way
I had more tackles as they had much more of the ball

 

[The Lyncha]

Played Hawks v Pies again this time 10 min qtrs, legend

Hawks(me) 24.10.154 Pies 16.15.111
Tackles 138-175
Goals Roughy 8 Buddy 4 Blair 4 Sidebottom 4

Hawks had their kicking boots on in this one
Quite happy with the amount of scoring shots per team on 10 mins
Tackles too high but I'm not sure how I can fix it without inflating the scores too much
Maybe I could up the break tackle stat for everyone and to counter balance also up the spoil stat
Thoughts anyone?

 

[BigAntStudios]

Just wanted to say that we are reading and watching to see how this goes, and we're happy to take any feedback on board regarding whether the game is more enjoyable with some of the measures implemented.

Just between us, you will be able to play in season mode after the patch is installed

 

[The Lyncha]

Just wanted to say that we are reading and watching to see how this goes, and we're happy to take any feedback on board regarding whether the game is more enjoyable with some of the measures implemented.

Just between us, you will be able to play in season mode after the patch is installed

Thanks Ross means alot to know that you guys are watching.
I personaly enjoy the game more after my stat changes as I like a challenging game but at the same time I should be easily beating teams like Port and struggling against Collingwood.

It had gotten to the point where Legend was too easy and not really fun anymore. Just hold tackle until holding the ball or ball up, try win the tap and if not rinse and repeat.

Very happy to hear that I can play season mode after the patch

Will there be anything included in future patches to enable roster sharing?
I know this wont be possible in game but I'm sure there are people who would like to try these changes but don't have the time or patience to change it themselves

The main change I am very proud of are the goal kicking stats.
Goal kicking is alot more difficult now especialy from tight angles and I can now no longer kick running banana's from the boundry with every single player everytime.

As you can see from my recent game scores points kicked per game are now much more realistic before I was only kicking 2-5 per game.

Here is a recent game score
Thought I'd challenge myself and go Crows against Pies

10 min qtrs, Legend
Crows 18.10.118 Tackles 166-139
Pies 20.20.140

First half was close only a couple of points in it at half time
3rd quarter they kept possesion and capitalized on the scoreboard, exactly what I would expect crows v pies

I was very happy with this outcome, even though I lost, it was still very enjoyable
Tackles are still to high but again not sure what to change to fix this

Ross do you have any idea what I could change without impacting the scoreline too much?

 

[formula1man]

Just wanted to say that we are reading and watching to see how this goes, and we're happy to take any feedback on board regarding whether the game is more enjoyable with some of the measures implemented.

Just between us, you will be able to play in season mode after the patch is installed

REALLY? I can use my edited sydney team in Season mode, you said you werent going to do this, but I am so happy that you are. yay

 

[The Lyncha]

After my last test I think I'll stop trying to make 10 min qtrs scores realistic and focus on 5 min qtrs

Played Swans(me) v Crows and everything was about right upto 3 qtr time
Swans 11.17.83 Crows 14.10.94
Maybe a little high score but still not to bad
But 4th qtr I kicked 16.6.102!!! For a final score of
Swans 27.23.185 Crows 18.13.121
Not quite sure what happened to the crows but goals came way to easy in the last qtr for some reason

My next test will be same teams but 5 min qtrs
I think I know what to change to bump up the scores a bit for 5 min qtrs but keep the same goal kicking accuracy as I am quite happy with where it is at

 

[The Lyncha]

Ok played Hawks v Crows 5 mins, legend
I bumped up all players break tackle by 10 which made the game very free flowing but not too much
Hawks 19.9.123 Crows 9.5.59
Tackles 58-94 which is about right. Crows had more tackles as I had more possession
I kicked the first four and Adelaide never really recovered

I will now play against Collingwood to make sure these changes havnt made it too easy