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[TheInjuryFactory]

TheInjuryFactory

Unfortunately the change to Barrybran cannot be accepted.

Pure Bowl to Pure Bat is 4 band changes.

The order is
-keeper
-pure bat
-bat ar
-pure ar
-bowl ar
-pure bowl

Also, it's one band change per player.

If you are looking for an additional batter, you are more than welcome to recruit externally.

Happy to discuss further, either here or in PM.

Are these the rules?

Season 01 Squad Management Rules
Upon completion of the draft, each team will be allowed to make up to two player type banding changes with player consent up until the completion of Season 01.

For example, a Batting All Rounder (Band 3) can use one of the teams player banding changes to become a Pure Batter (Band 2) or a Pure All Rounder (Band 4).

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Selectable player types and their averages include:

Player Type Banding	Average (Bat/Bowl)
01. Wicketkeeper (Keeper)	40/99
02. Pure Batter	45/99
03. Batting All-Rounder	35/35
04. Pure All-Rounder	30/30
05. Bowling All-Rounder	25/25
06. Pure Bowler	20/20

 

[Dingster]

TheInjuryFactory

Unfortunately the change to Barrybran cannot be accepted.

Pure Bowl to Pure Bat is 4 band changes.

The order is
-keeper
-pure bat
-bat ar
-pure ar
-bowl ar
-pure bowl

Also, it's one band change per player.

If you are looking for an additional batter, you are more than welcome to recruit externally.

Happy to discuss further, either here or in PM.

New concept to most. Why are we making it so convoluted? Esp as it hasn't started.

 

[Falconista]

TheInjuryFactory

Unfortunately the change to Barrybran cannot be accepted.

Pure Bowl to Pure Bat is 4 band changes.

The order is
-keeper
-pure bat
-bat ar
-pure ar
-bowl ar
-pure bowl

Also, it's one band change per player.

If you are looking for an additional batter, you are more than welcome to recruit externally.

Happy to discuss further, either here or in PM.

This cannot be so on the example cited in the rules:

For example, a Batting All Rounder (Band 3) can use one of the teams player banding changes to become a Pure Batter (Band 2) or a Pure All Rounder (Band 4).

In the example someone can move either up or down a band, indicating that the bands are circular and not linear. Either the example cited in the rules is wonky or the interpretation.

 

[TheInjuryFactory]

This cannot be so on the example cited in the rules:

In the example someone can move either up or down a band, indicating that the bands are circular and not linear. Either the example cited in the rules is wonky or the interpretation.

Either way, neither apparent sticking points relating to Bazza's player band change are actually stipulated in the rules. In fact, the rules as stated directly contradict the arguments made against the change.

So therefore it's a change accounted for within the rules.

 

[akkaps]

I was advised that I’m this issue was resolved earlier this evening. And hence I did not reply in this thread.

We are not accepting the proposed change to Barrybran’s band, due to it being a 4 band movement.

If you are looking for a pure bat, please recruit from outside the draft pool.

We are not here to relieve you from your lack of awareness at drafting a balanced squad, and then allow rule changes for you when everyone else was either able to recruit according to the rules and/or make adjustments accordingly

 

[TheInjuryFactory]

I was advised that I’m this issue was resolved earlier this evening. And hence I did not reply in this thread.

We are not accepting the proposed change to Barrybran’s band, due to it being a 4 band movement.

If you are looking for a pure bat, please recruit from outside the draft pool.

We are not here to relieve you from your lack of awareness at drafting a balanced squad, and then allow rule changes for you when everyone else was either able to recruit according to the rules and/or make adjustments accordingly

Your rules don't support your argument, so we will not be changing.

 

[TheInjuryFactory]

Your tone is total dogshit on this. This is supposed to be a bit of fun that we have signed on to support.

Nowhere does it say in the rules that the band swaps only apply one per player, and the very example in the rules suggests the band changes can switch either way, up or down. We're choosing down, and two moves gets Baz to batter.

Your rules don't say anything about direction. Nor limits per player.

You're wrong.

 

[Falconista]

I was advised that I’m this issue was resolved earlier this evening. And hence I did not reply in this thread.

We are not accepting the proposed change to Barrybran’s band, due to it being a 4 band movement.

If you are looking for a pure bat, please recruit from outside the draft pool.

We are not here to relieve you from your lack of awareness at drafting a balanced squad, and then allow rule changes for you when everyone else was either able to recruit according to the rules and/or make adjustments accordingly

It's a move of either two or four bands because you can move either up or down through the bands.

METHOD ONE:

• keeper ↓1
• batter ↓2
• bat a/r
• a/r
• bowl a/r
• bowler 0

METHOD TWO:

• keeper
• batter ↑4
• bat a/r ↑3
• a/r ↑2
• bowl a/r ↑1
• bowler 0

Rules are clear that band changes can go in either direction. As such, the two band movement is just as valid as a four band one. Pretending one doesn't exist is illogical to the rules for which you co-wrote.

 

[Mobbs]

I was advised that I’m this issue was resolved earlier this evening. And hence I did not reply in this thread.

We are not accepting the proposed change to Barrybran’s band, due to it being a 4 band movement.

If you are looking for a pure bat, please recruit from outside the draft pool.

We are not here to relieve you from your lack of awareness at drafting a balanced squad, and then allow rule changes for you when everyone else was either able to recruit according to the rules and/or make adjustments accordingly

So you are saying that the only players which can switch to become a pure batter, is a batting all-rounder? (And a keeper but that's impossible as teams are only allowed one keeper and can't play without one). And please note that half the all-rounders were urged to switch from all-rounder to pure batter or bowler. Also the employment of a nominational draft where a team might inadvertently select everyone from one band - thus gutting the barrel of all available players from that band.

I get the concept behind these restrictions, sure - but it has led to some definite difficulties outside the ability of teams to control. Might need to thinktank some kind of levelling step that can be squeezed in before squads are final.

I feel that one optional open band-switch per club would make the most sense.

 

[cats2rise]

This cannot be so on the example cited in the rules:

In the example someone can move either up or down a band, indicating that the bands are circular and not linear. Either the example cited in the rules is wonky or the interpretation.

Your interpretation is wonky, however I get your premise.

But no, you cannot go from band 1 to 6. I would have assumed it's an easy and logical conclusion to come to when reading the rules, but they can be clarified.

Either way, neither apparent sticking points relating to Bazza's player band change are actually stipulated in the rules. In fact, the rules as stated directly contradict the arguments made against the change.

So therefore it's a change accounted for within the rules.

Quite simply, it's not. Sorry TIF.

Your rules don't support your argument, so we will not be changing.

You're already not changing anything with barrybran.

Your tone is total dogshit on this. This is supposed to be a bit of fun that we have signed on to support.

Nowhere does it say in the rules that the band swaps only apply one per player, and the very example in the rules suggests the band changes can switch either way, up or down. We're choosing down, and two moves gets Baz to batter.

Your rules don't say anything about direction. Nor limits per player.

You're wrong.

TIF,

Both player changes can be to the same player, you are correct. In akkaps defence it was something we discussed to limit it to one per player but that wasn't in the final rules. So a small oversight by akkaps in this discussion.

Bandings can go up and down, yes. We have never said you can go from band 1 to band 6, nor inferred that. You are coming up with that. Creative, yes. But not accepted.

It's a move of either two or four bands because you can move either up or down through the bands.

METHOD ONE:

• keeper ↓1
• batter ↓2
• bat a/r
• a/r
• bowl a/r
• bowler 0

METHOD TWO:

• keeper
• batter ↑4
• bat a/r ↑3
• a/r ↑2
• bowl a/r ↑1
• bowler 0

Rules are clear that band changes can go in either direction. As such, the two band movement is just as valid as a four band one. Pretending one doesn't exist is illogical to the rules for which you co-wrote.

No, Falc. Again, I get the premise but it's not the intent or what the rules stipulate. Well, actually I dont get how you think method 2 is still 2 bands when you have written the 4 steps.

Two bands. Up or down. Through the bands as listed. In order.

So you are saying that the only players which can switch to become a pure batter, is a batting all-rounder? (And a keeper but that's impossible as teams are only allowed one keeper and can't play without one). And please note that half the all-rounders were urged to switch from all-rounder to pure batter or bowler. Also the employment of a nominational draft where a team might inadvertently select everyone from one band - thus gutting the barrel of all available players from that band.

I get the concept behind these restrictions, sure - but it has led to some definite difficulties outside the ability of teams to control. Might need to thinktank some kind of levelling step that can be squeezed in before squads are final.

I feel that one optional open band-switch per club would make the most sense.

Hi Mobbs,

Yes, you are correct on the bandings to a batter. It is also one way how you can replace your keeper if they were delisted etc... batter goes up a band (or you sign a new one.)

A team can now have more than one keeper if they wanted to - it was just for the draft that each team could only have one). Again refer to the rules - a minimum of one keeper.

Yes we needed a bunch of player swaps before the draft so we actioned that appropriately to balance the pool to ensure each team hd the ability to draft a balanced squad. We otherwise would have had less than 3 bowlers per team and something like 5 all-rounders.

Thanks for the suggestion, Mobbs!

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We're creating this from scratch. We're rolling over and implementing rules seen (or variations of) in various other cricsim leagues. All elements of all the rules and roadmap for the whole league will continue to evolve, however the draft has been set up and is now complete.

I advised TIF multiple times over multiple days the options appear to be as per below if Qoalas want another batter. This also included PMs during the draft that TIf should focus on batters. And a PM offering to chat again last night!

• Falc goes to a batter and a bowler goes to a bowing all-rounder, or
• recruit

We're not trying to be difficult but there's rules for a reason... rules that were available and you were advised to ensure you are across on multiple occasions. One team in the league has a perceived issue. Another team had a squad issue and resolved it via the player band rules.

On the fly we've made changes such as allowing the 3 free agents to be a type of their choosing, and also not forcing clubs to draft the final 3 players in draft order. We did this to provide some additional flexibility when realising the 'state of play' when we got to the pointy end of the draft. Plus, to repeat myself, there are the banding rule change options that resolve this if you didn't want to recruit further. Falc to a batter, and a bowler to a bowling all-rounder. That is why the rules are there.

Happy to continue to discuss via PM. But to post a change, be advised its not accepted, and then to decide to tell the volunteer organisers that they are dumb and wrong isn't really much fun for any of us involved here.

 

[TheInjuryFactory]

and then to decide to tell the volunteer organisers that they are dumb and wrong isn't really much fun for any of us involved here.

Mate, you guys threw the first, second and third stones here.

The panel is taking this all very personally. We have requested to execute a squad change that is accounted for within the rules. If the rules don't cover your intent for them, then I suggest to consult with the leaders as to what change you would like to make to tighten them up.

But you can't decline a change that is accounted for within the rules. And this really isn't the way to go about keeping the support of volunteers trying to assist your concept to survive.

 

[TheInjuryFactory]

This is all very unbecoming and not much fun.

 

[Test Tickle]

Lets take our bat and ball and go home!

 

[Mobbs]

Lets take our bat and ball and go home!

No fuss, DE will do that before us, without even a controversy. They're famous for dying on a hill from an ant bite.

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[Smartys Power]

Did all this tension happen because I rocked up late?

 

[Test Tickle]

Did all this tension happen because I rocked up late?

I think its coz I did a nudie run around Spotwood Oval.

 

[Wosh]

Alrighty, catching up on how much fun everyone is having.

 

[Barrybran]

Just catching up on this. A little common sense would go a long way it seems. Every player is a new player until the first ball is bowled.

 

[boncer34]

No fuss, DE will do that before us, without even a controversy. They're famous for dying on a hill from an ant bite.

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Tag me coward

 

[Mobbs]

Tag me coward

How can I tag you if I don't know who you are?

 

[boncer34]

How can I tag you if I don't know who you are?

 

[Mobbs]

A scratch match down, and a lot of promising performances. For a lineup that was completed only minutes before start of play, I'd venture to say our Season 1 campaign can be best described as formidable. It can be formidded.

Not long now until we enter, nay, open, the history books with the first of a long line of championships. Let's have a great season!





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[Mobbs]

Also, just bought a new laptop. RIP gerbil.

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[Dingster]

Also, just bought a new laptop. RIP gerbil.

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It had a good run.