The Mounting Ruck Problem

[Ash1337]

I posted this in the my clubs list management thread but it needs to be discussed here.

The amount of Rucks that have gone down to injury is high.
Hayes, Lycett, Grundy, Hickey, Pittonet, Ceglar, Philips, Darcy x2, McEvoy, Reeves, English, Soldo, Nic Naitanui, Naismith, Thilthorpe, Campbell.

Lycett, Grundy, Hayes, Pittonet, Ceglar, Mcevoy, Reeves, Naismith, Naitanui. All with long term injures. Ceglar & McEvoy only ones that aren't knee or shoulder.

That's a pretty long list of injured rucks.

There's also the rucks that are cooked playing or very closed to cooked like Stanley, Martin, Marshall, Goldstein, Ryder, Sinclair.

There is going to be another Ruck round about again at years end and another couple of rucks playing 1 more year that should of retired.

This is looking to become a problem. Nearly half the league are injured and only 3 of those are expected to return this week with 1 of those is Covid/H&S protocol.

 

[Bunk Moreland]

They’re always getting injured, their job is basically to jump into each other.

That’s why you need a number of them, and why virtually any Australian male 6’8 or taller can have an AFL contract to if they want one. They’re always trying to retire before another club comes along and employs them as an insurance policy.

 

[powerrrrrrrrrrrr]

The only solution is for the AFL to make a knee jerk reaction and create a new rule that ruckman aren’t allowed to jump at a ruck contest and must instead be flat footed to remove contact injuries.

 

[Juddernaut08]

theyre 120kg beasts jumping into each other blindly

 

[BringFevBack2021]

Hard to mount ruckmen cause of their sheer size I would’ve thought

 

[Ash1337]

Hard to mount ruckmen cause of their sheer size I would’ve thought

With how many marks of the year players get on Gawn it doesn't look that hard lol.

 

[Madas]

Why don’t they wear knee pads for impact ?
I know the landing action is still a problem but the Pittonet and Grundy injuries where knee on knee crunches weren’t they ?

 

[Toump Ass]

There's also the rucks that are cooked playing or very closed to cooked like Stanley, Martin, Marshall, Goldstein, Ryder, Sinclair.

Stef Martin's problem is he's 42,000 years old.

 

[Ash1337]

They’re always getting injured, their job is basically to jump into each other.

That’s why you need a number of them, and why virtually any Australian male 6’8 or taller can have an AFL contract to if they want one. They’re always trying to retire before another club comes along and employs them as an insurance policy.

Yes but in previous years there hasn't been many Injuries to those rucks. Last year 2 went down with ACL (Witts, Naismith) with a dozen short term injures. This year has a whole host of Long term injuries.

 

[Ash1337]

Why don’t they wear knee pads for impact ?
I know the landing action is still a problem but the Pittonet and Grundy injuries where knee on knee crunches weren’t they ?

They already wear shin guards. Maybe it should include the knee.

 

[Madas]

They already wear shin guards. Maybe it should include the knee.

Yep like these with gel pads inserts over the knee

 

[random260]

Perhaps we should adopt Netball center bounces? So two ruckman go for the ball but can only jump on the spot and tap it. So all it relies on is verticle jump/ No knee to opposition ruck.

EDIT: Actually that how it normally is with throw ins from boundary. Wow. Why don't we adopt that for center bounces?

 

[greatwhiteshark]

I posted this in the my clubs list management thread but it needs to be discussed here.

The amount of Rucks that have gone down to injury is high.
Hayes, Lycett, Grundy, Hickey, Pittonet, Ceglar, Philips, Darcy x2, McEvoy, Reeves, English, Soldo, Nic Naitanui, Naismith, Thilthorpe, Campbell.

Lycett, Grundy, Hayes, Pittonet, Ceglar, Mcevoy, Reeves, Naismith, Naitanui. All with long term injures. Ceglar & McEvoy only ones that aren't knee or shoulder.

That's a pretty long list of injured rucks.

There's also the rucks that are cooked playing or very closed to cooked like Stanley, Martin, Marshall, Goldstein, Ryder, Sinclair.

There is going to be another Ruck round about again at years end and another couple of rucks playing 1 more year that should of retired.

This is looking to become a problem. Nearly half the league are injured and only 3 of those are expected to return this week with 1 of those is Covid/H&S protocol.

Just an unlucky year, but the ADL love this type of stuff so they will change the rules thinking they will stop ruckman being injured.
Talk about knee jerk reactions.

There is no issue at all.

 

[WillHayward]

I posted this in the my clubs list management thread but it needs to be discussed here.

The amount of Rucks that have gone down to injury is high.
Hayes, Lycett, Grundy, Hickey, Pittonet, Ceglar, Philips, Darcy x2, McEvoy, Reeves, English, Soldo, Nic Naitanui, Naismith, Thilthorpe, Campbell.

Lycett, Grundy, Hayes, Pittonet, Ceglar, Mcevoy, Reeves, Naismith, Naitanui. All with long term injures. Ceglar & McEvoy only ones that aren't knee or shoulder.

That's a pretty long list of injured rucks.

There's also the rucks that are cooked playing or very closed to cooked like Stanley, Martin, Marshall, Goldstein, Ryder, Sinclair.

There is going to be another Ruck round about again at years end and another couple of rucks playing 1 more year that should of retired.

This is looking to become a problem. Nearly half the league are injured and only 3 of those are expected to return this week with 1 of those is Covid/H&S protocol.

I seriously like the last touch rule out of bounds

Boundary throw ins are shit boring for fans and are just two rucks wrestling and injuring each other for no reason.

 

[WillHayward]

Just an unlucky year, but the ADL love this type of stuff so they will change the rules thinking they will stop ruckman being injured.
Talk about knee jerk reactions.

There is no issue at all.

The last touch out of bounds trial worked IMO.

I honestly find boundary throw ins boring and a waste of time

 

[Upgrayedd]

Can we start picking randoms from bush league again? Im sure there will be a gentlemen agreement for whichever team picks up Mummy to not give him the piss-test till you get at least one full time ruckman back from a Long term injury

 

[Ash1337]

Just an unlucky year, but the ADL love this type of stuff so they will change the rules thinking they will stop ruckman being injured.
Talk about knee jerk reactions.

There is no issue at all.

Could be just unlucky but it's still something to monitor and see if there is anything more that can be done to help mitigate injuries.

 

[Ash1337]

The last touch out of bounds trial worked IMO.

I honestly find boundary throw ins boring and a waste of time

I wouldn't say last touch would be the way to go but kicks that don't get touched or handballing out of bounds could be a free to the other team. Those ones into the forward line that don't get touched and roll/bounce out can be paid while spoiling still means a throw in.

The other thing that could be looked at is stoppages close to boundary line should be a throw in or thrown up 15m from the boundary to prevent lessen the chance of a repeat throw up.

 

[My Tilly]

Probably less injuries occur when you have a decent mismatch as one ruck (the more dominant) won't jump as much in contests as they have superior judgement and height advantage.
But when you have two bulls facing off against one another, it's carnage.

 

[master bate]

Both Pittonet and Grundy angled their knees across their bodies and attempted to use their shins to fend off and protect the drop of the ball. They were sitting ducks for PCL's.

Knee on knee contact will happen in ruck work but the aim should be to get the knees up in to the body of an opponent rather than hanging a leg out there to be crunched in to.

Wouldn't be a surprise if ruck coaching has taken a hit from the soft cap and that might be contributing to some of the injuries.

 

[Demonic Ascent]

They already changed the rules when they brought in second circle to reduce PCL injuries. Not sure there's much more they could do other than to ban them jumping into each other which wouldn't go down well

 

[Aristotle Pickett]

If you want to eradicate the rucks, just alternate a handball possession from bounces and boundary line throw ins for each team.

 

[emblurr]

Brad will bring in a rule and she'll be sweet

 

[Crashy]

Only one player was looking at the ball

 

[Ash1337]

If you want to eradicate the rucks, just alternate a handball possession from bounces and boundary line throw ins for each team.

No way I want to see rucks eradicated just that it's looking to become a concern for the season. A few clubs may look at getting a ruck in the midseason draft. There also will be a bit of a shuffle for rucks again during the trade period. Last season we also had 6 rucks going to new clubs with Fort, Chol, Ceglar, Lynch, Ladhams, CCJ.