The Official Rebecca Wilson Bitch and Moan Thread

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DIGGING FOR THE TRUTH - By Rebecca Wilson.

The PIC is now having a look at the so called CH scandal. No fewer than 5 senior policemen will be investigated as a result of the whole sorry saga that enveloped the Canterbury club last year.

The PIC's terms of reference are narrow and very little new information may come to light as a result of it. But five policemen are on leave pending the results of the investigation (two return to work on Monday) making them in one small way victims of one of leagues darkest times.

What we still don't know, is exactly what happened in CH last year. League has had its fair share of scandals and drame but nothing quite like the magnitude of Coffs, Super League changed the course of the game politically.

Coffs Harbour changed the game because it made us really look at, and question the integrity of our heroes off the field. A loss of innocence from league supporters particularly females occured because of it.The fact that no player was found to have a case to answer still left many perplexed as to why nobody ever told us what happened. If there was no case well why not come clean on the facts surrounding the case.

I will say here that I will never ever attend a Bulldogs' home game again because of the CH scandal. Back in the days of Chris Anderson and Peter Moore I was a regular at Canterbury games. The Bulldogs still have many good men and women just like Moore and Anderson still on their board, in their player ranks and in the fan club. But Coggs has cast a huge shadown on them all. The good people at Belmore deserve better.

Let's face it, the scuttlebutt and the rumours have never gone away. Neither has the smell around the club. No matter what anyone told us at the time, we all wondered, and still do, just what happened in the coastal city during that couple of days back in the beginning of 2004.

Malcolm Noad's now infamous statment "Let's pretend Coff's never happened" went down like a lead balloon and still does. Hundreds of women walked out on the presentation of the NRL trophy at the end of last season. They couldn't bring themselves to watch it because of the innuendo that still surrounded the team six months after the scandal.

Most of my female friends, all of them mothers, refused to tip them in the office tipping competion and they all agree they won't go to Canterburry games again.

The police announced there was no case to answer. Not one person ever told us what actually happened that night, or on the nights leading up to the alleged assault. The victimmade her allegations to the police but the public didn't hear her side of the story.

We didn't hear from any of the players either because not one single one ever admitted he was one of those accused. The police declared case closed. The club claimed everyone had been hard done by and nothing untoward occured."Just look at the evidence" they said, "Everyone has been cleared" The fact that a chief executive, a football manager and a board member are no longer at the clubshould surely tell us something did happen that wasn't necessarily right.

The players turned up at police headquarters wearing shorts and looking anything but concerned following the airing of of the gang rape allegations. They were fined for their casual attire and apparent lack of respect for the situation.

Now the issue has resurfaced.What we do know is that Jim Hall and Malcolm Noad have made a complaint that has resulted in the case ending up the subject of another investigation. Whether they end up regretting waking sleeping dogs remains to be seen.

The PIC is unlikely to throw up any more facts than the scant ones we already have.What it just might do though, is trigger action from the club or the alleged victim. The police are withinh their powers to tell us why no chargers were laid, or if something did really happen ( as one police officer did say in a media conference last year )

If Coffs Harbour is just a figment of our imaginations tell us for gods sake. This famous old club and its supporters deserve to know. The Canterburry club won't be able to genuinely move on and claim falsely lost its credibility untill we know the whole true story.
 
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I was at the Grand Final and i didn't see "Hundreds" Of women walk out on the presentation of the trophy to the Dogs (Well only the one's wearing Roosters jerseys... But that is expected). The Bulldogs only have a home crowd average of over 26,000... YES Women are not going to the games :rolleyes: I Have never seen so many at Bulldogs games like this year!!!

This idiot is a joke, it's journalist like herself that are holding our game back!!!

She has time after time been found to take rumours and write them as fact (The famous Sydney Swans incident is a classic example where a RL fan sent a false rumour to her about Swans players mucking around and causing Trouble and she wrote it as fact)
 
Re: Reb Wilson... JOKE

Gutter journalism (actually, it's not journalism at all) at its best. Obviously another slow news day for Rebecca who is renowned for her rubbish articles.

They'll always look to have a dig at the Dogs and League LF, but just remember who is winning the war and winning it well mate. We are.

Karma has already caught up with her male equivilant in Patrick Smith (falling off his roof), so maybe it'll catch up with her sooner or later.

The Swans train station incident that she printed as fact (I believe that was the fine work of some posters at leagueunlimited :D ) just shows that she is a disgraceful person and sh*t at her job.

Keep pumping the crap out Bec, every time you do it we only get stronger :)
 

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Re: Reb Wilson... JOKE

Let's NOT go down the same path we did last year with this topic. I will not allow any slanderous statements be made in regard to any so-called journalist (no matter how much she bugs me) therefore instead of locking this thread I will keep it open and edit any thread I feel crosses the line. Remember this isn't LU and the rules there are different to the ones I have to enforce here.

BTW way LF, it was your club that decided to make a complaint to the PIC, thus resulting in this ********-poor article, therefore why not for once have a go at your club for something they created.

If there was no Bulldog complaint then there would be no article, now would there LF??? But of course that fact doesn't stop you attack this gutter journalist :rolleyes:
 
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Hicham said:
Gutter journalism (actually, it's not journalism at all) at its best. Obviously another slow news day for Rebecca who is renowned for her rubbish articles.

They'll always look to have a dig at the Dogs and League LF, but just remember who is winning the war and winning it well mate. We are.

Karma has already caught up with her male equivilant in Patrick Smith (falling off his roof), so maybe it'll catch up with her sooner or later.

The Swans train station incident that she printed as fact (I believe that was the fine work of some posters at leagueunlimited :D ) just shows that she is a disgraceful person and sh*t at her job.

Keep pumping the crap out Bec, every time you do it we only get stronger :)

What happened with the Swans and the train?
 
Re: Reb Wilson... JOKE

Something about not buying a ticket (or the correct ticket) and when fronted by CityRail staff, he (can't remember which Swans player they chose at LU) became very aggressive and assualted one of the staff - something along those lines anyway.

After all the unsubstantiated crap that she was writing about League, the guys from LU made that story up and emailed it to her.

In her very next column, it was the lead paragraph. She was exposed as a BS artist and was clearly pi**ed off.

In the column following that one, she wrote in her "We Hate" section: Bulldogs supporters with access to email.

:D

Poor Rebecca, she really struggles, lol.
 
Re: Reb Wilson... JOKE

Hicham said:
Something about not buying a ticket (or the correct ticket) and when fronted by CityRail staff, he (can't remember which Swans player they chose at LU) became very aggressive and assualted one of the staff - something along those lines anyway.

After all the unsubstantiated crap that she was writing about League, the guys from LU made that story up and emailed it to her.

In her very next column, it was the lead paragraph. She was exposed as a BS artist and was clearly pi**ed off.

In the column following that one, she wrote in her "We Hate" section: Bulldogs supporters with access to email.

:D

Poor Rebecca, she really struggles, lol.
Yeah, i noticed she blamed the "bulldogs supporters", rather than own up to her own shoddy journalistic standards. Were the blokes who sent the email dogs supporters or did she make that bit up too?
 
Re: Reb Wilson... JOKE

I don't think they were Dogs supporters. I just remember reading the thread where a few posters (supporters of various clubs) had the sh*ts with what she was writing and decided to test her credibiltiy.

Looks like she just assumed they were Dog's fans.
 
Re: Reb Wilson... JOKE

Bulldogs lose their bark
By Dean Ritchie
May 5, 2005

THE Bulldogs last night gagged themselves from speaking to two of Australia's biggest selling newspapers.

Bulldogs players, coaching staff and officials - including chief executive Malcolm Noad - will refuse to conduct any interviews with journalists from the Daily and The Sunday Telegraphs.

An opinion by columnist Rebecca Wilson in The Saturday Daily Telegraph has sparked the ban.

"I wrote my column based on my personal opinion," Wilson said last night.

"It certainly wasn't part of any conspiracy by this organisation - I simply expressed what I believed to be a valid opinion based on the events which surrounded Coffs Harbour.

"I have since received dozens of emails from readers, with about 80 percent expressing their support for what I wrote.

"To ban an entire organisation based on what I wrote is ludicrous. Banning me might be understandable.

"But banning the whole place is an overreaction from a club that appears to be suffering from paranoia.

"Why cut off your nose to spite your face?

"It is an extreme overreaction from a club who should be repairing bridges rather than destroying them."

Noad was last night frustrated with Wilson and explained why the club has imposed the ban.

"We have a problem. I've tried as hard as I can," said Noad, who ironically joined the Bulldogs from New Limited.

"If it means we don't talk, then we don't talk.

"But I am sick of copping it in the neck from Rebecca Wilson. She has stitched us up.

"We will fulfil our professional obligations [post-match press conferences, releasing team sheets] but it has reached the stage where we don't want to do any more than that."

Club officials claim they have tried to resolve their battle with Wilson but she was refusing to return calls.

But Wilson fired back: "As for an allegation that I haven't returned Malcolm Noad's calls, he hasn't tried to contact me for over a week.

"I spoke to him early last week about a column item in The Sunday Telegraph. I made a correction to an item involving the Bulldogs following that call.

"No one else from the club has tried to contact me since."

NRL chief executive David Gallop said: "It is a highly unusual step. Our clubs have certain media responsibilities that need to be met.

"It is a critical way of communicating with fans.

"I hope it can be resolved in the next few days."

The Daily and Sunday Telegraph executive sports editor Phil Rothfield said: "I'm surprised Malcolm has taken this stand.

"I worked alongside him at News Limited for 20 years and in his senior management role he always encouraged our columnists to express their opinion without fear or favour.

"He has congratulated our newspaper several times this year for positive Bulldogs stories but he obviously can't handle criticism."
 

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Re: Reb Wilson... JOKE

Fair enough I say re: Malcom Noad's stance.

The Dogs certainly could've handled the situation better during the investigation of the allegations but this time - more than a year on and having been cleared of any wrong doing - they can do what they want.

Does Wilson get off on this sort of rubbish? What provoked her to pull this article out of her arse so long after the issue?

People like her cannot stand seeing the game getting stronger and stronger in Australia despite the controversies of the past.

It also sickens me how she prenteds that she "loves her League".

Hicham.
 
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Hicham said:
What provoked her to pull this article out of her arse so long after the issue?

The Bulldogs making a complaint to the PIC in regards to the police handling of investigation into Coffs. If the club didn't make a complaint, she wouldn't of written the article end of story.
 
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robbieando said:
The Bulldogs making a complaint to the PIC in regards to the police handling of investigation into Coffs. If the club didn't make a complaint, she wouldn't of written the article end of story.

And they had a right to complain!!! The way it was handled was a disgrace!!!!!
Rebecca Wilson is pathetic! A ignorant twit...
 
Re: Reb Wilson... JOKE

Have a look at this! Twas actually published in the Tele! the DT have lost the plot and Wilson is spitting the dummy...

Game's hottest off-field fight
May 6, 2005

THE Bulldogs have placed a media ban on two of Australia's biggest selling newspapers over opinion columns written by their journalist REBECCA WILSON.

The players and coaching staff have been ordered by chief executive Malcolm Noad not to do interviews with The Daily Telegraph and The Sunday Telegraph.

Wilson yesterday returned a phone call from Noad to thrash out their differences and ask why the media ban was put in place. This is an edited transcript of her phone call and interview.

REBECCA: Do you believe this media ban will benefit your club?

MALCOLM: Is this you and me talking?

R: This is both, this is an interview.

M: Oh is it? Well I don't want to talk to you.

R: Oh OK, so we're going to cut it short.

M: Well, if this is an interview then you should have told me that in the first place.

R: I'm a reporter.

M: Well Rebecca, it's a waste of time talking to you.

R: That's unfair.

M: It's not unfair.

R: Until last week you hadn't even picked up the phone to call me but do you believe ...

[Malcolm interrupts]

R: ... hang on, do you believe by banning the entire organisation it's a benefit to the Bulldogs?

M: Ah, no - I don't.

R: So why did you do it?

M: Because.

R: So you believe now you've made a mistake?

M: No I don't, not at all, no not at all.

R: OK, so what have Dean Ritchie, Paul Kent and James Hooper done wrong?

M: Sometimes you have to stand on your principles Rebecca and, um ...

R: What are they? Based on someone writing an opinion piece you had a dummy spit and decided that you're going to penalise all hard-working journalists.

M: Oh please, please Rebecca come on, I'll just get the tissues out ... hang on a sec. Oh, that's just ridiculous.

R: Why is that ridiculous?

M: Well, because what other recourse do we have? We've tried. I've tried talking to people in there, I've tried sending e-mails, I've tried showing you where you're wrong and you refuse to acknowledge it.

R: I'm not going to, I've told you I won't have correspondence with you via e-mail. In the only phone call you've made to me I answered the phone. The only call I've had I answered the phone and we had a discussion and I made a correction last Sunday.

R: Tell me about the sponsors. What have they said?

M: I'm not gonna talk to you Rebecca. I know that you've got people there ringing up sponsors so let them ring. I'm not gonna talk to you about that. I'm not doing an interview with you. You're the last person I'd do an interview with ... OK.

R: What about your media code of conduct that talks about being open and accountable - which you wrote

M: Rebecca you can't be trusted, just write whatever you want. It doesn't ... you know, write whatever you want.R: So, I'm not entitled to have an opinion?

M: No, I've never said that. You for sure, I'm the first person to say you're entitled to have an opinion; absolutely the first person, but it's got to be factually correct.

R: It was a factually correct item. My opinion piece last week was based on all facts Malcolm. It was all facts.

M: I beg your pardon?

R: It was right. And now you're trying to ban all of our journalists.

M: That shows what a drastic measure it is doesn't it? And it just shows how important the issue is from our point.

R: Malcolm, has it occurred to you that something happened in Coffs Harbour last year that a lot of women in this town have a major problem with and you are in denial ... your whole club has been in denial about it?

M: I've never been in denial.

R: You have been.

M: You're in denial about the fact that no charges were laid.

R: No, I'm not in denial about that ... I'm not in denial about anything. The point is that your club did something in Coffs Harbour which was admitted by a senior policeman last year.

M: You're saying that.

R: So you don't find that what you've done then is at all self-defeating because a lot of good stuff has appeared in our newspapers about the Bulldogs?

M: I know and I've acknowledged it.

R: I'm just wondering what led you to make that decision yesterday?

M: It's a whole range of things Rebecca. You know we've worked really hard to try and repair what I think was a pretty ordinary relationship that the Bulldogs have with pretty much all media organisations and have had some success.

R: But why didn't you just ban me?

M: How would we ban you? You don't come to games, we hardly ever talk, you write whatever you like, we don't have any recourse.

R: And what sort of say does the coach have in all of this?

M: None at all actually.

R: The coach did not decide?

M: That's right.

R: What about your chairman George Peponis?

M: No.

R: Just Malcolm Noad decided that he was going to ban the papers.

M: I had full support ... so ... don't try and create a rift or anything, I've got full support.

Go Noady! "I'll just get the tissues out, hang on a sec..." :D

Great stuff.
 
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Malcom Noad has his say.

Source: http://www.bulldogs.com.au/dogbites.asp?ID=2040&SN=1

MESSAGE FROM BULLDOGS CEO MALCOLM NOAD


May 6, 2005

I am writing to clarify a few points regarding the Bulldogs’ stance against Rebecca Wilson, The Daily Telegraph and The Sunday Telegraph.

Firstly, let me say that this decision to take this stance is not one that we wanted to do, but felt we were forced to do as it was the only option left to us. Contrary to what has been reported in the Telegraph we have not banned these newspapers from speaking with the Club, we have limited their access to Bulldogs players and officials. As is required under NRL guidelines both newspapers will have access to all press conferences held by the Bulldogs and will have access to our players after matches in the dressing rooms. Both newspapers will have access to photographing our players during matches and will receive press releases regarding team information. This message was conveyed to the Telegraph two days ago, but was conveniently forgotten about in articles today by Rebecca Wilson, Paul Kent and Dean Ritchie.

Contrary to what Rebecca Wilson has stated yesterday, we do not have a problem with her expressing her opinion, nor do we feel there is a conspiracy against us at News Limited. Our stand is based on the numerous errors and unsubstantiated stories that she has written about the Bulldogs over the past 12 months. This again occurred in her page last Saturday and it was the straw that broke the camel’s back.

The thought of banning Rebecca from any contact with the club was never an option as she never calls the Bulldogs to check any facts, never attends Bulldogs games, never attends Bulldogs press conferences and never requests any interviews or information from the Bulldogs. How do you ban someone who has no contact with the Club? This is the very reason why we felt we were left no other choice but to limit our contact with Telegraph journalists to what is required in NRL media guidelines.

Rebecca’s comment that the Bulldogs should be repairing bridges rather than destroying them is again an incorrect one. If you asked any journalist from any media organization, including the Telegraph, they would tell you that the Club has made a concerted effort to improve our relationship with the media. We recognized that the Club was not as open and receptive to the press as it could have been and have thus introduced steps to change this. Our players, coaches and administrators have all increased their time spent dealing with the media. In fact, in an effort to have open dialogue with Rebecca we invited her to a sit down function we held last month titled Women In A League Of Their Own. She accepted the invitation, then did not turn up.

In addition, the Club has introduced new initiatives including a Club Charter in an effort to be more transparent to the rugby league community, our key stakeholders and the general public.

Rebecca also makes mention of the Club not calling her to discuss any issues from her page. That is at the very heart of this decision. Why are we constantly trying to contact her after she has written a story with factual errors. Shouldn’t she be contacting the Bulldogs anytime she receives unsubstantiated information about the club or its players? Isn’t it the very cornerstone of good journalism that you check your facts?

I agree with the statement by the editor of the Daily Telegraph in yesterday’s paper that our decision is disappointing. It is disappointing that we felt we had no other avenue to turn in addressing this problem. We have tried dealing directly with Rebecca on this issue but she first chose to ignore our correspondence. After only copying in Telegraph editors who oversee her work, did she respond via email by having a personal attack on me.

This is a key secondary issue to this whole problem, Rebecca has a personal issue with me and with the Bulldogs Club. The issue with me extends back to the Sydney Olympics when she used to work for me at News Limited. She was suspended by News Limited for the period of the Games at the request of Lachlan Murdoch for several indiscretions. She felt I should have stood up for her.

With regard to the Bulldogs, Rebecca openly admitted her bias against the Club in her page on Saturday – “I will never, ever attend a Bulldogs home game again because of the Coffs Harbour scandal.” Hasn’t she moved on from the Coffs Harbour incident. Ask yourself, do you think she will ever report any positive news about the Bulldogs?

I also agree with Phil Rothfield’s comments in yesterday’s article that columnists should be encouraged to express their opinion without fear or favour. It is reporting of incorrect information and unsubstantiated rumours that I do not agree with. Again, isn’t the checking of information to see if it is true or not at the core of being a good and credible journalist?

A summary of the errors that Rebecca Wilson has made just in the last three months follows:

1. Sunday Telegraph story on a dispute between Malcolm Noad and Brad Clyde about comments to the media – false, never happened, Wilson never called to check.

2. Sunday Telegraph story on senior Bulldogs players going to coach Steve Folkes with their recommendations regarding player signings – false, never happened, Wilson never called to check.

3. Daily Telegraph story about Malcolm claiming he budgeted for sponsorship money which dried up after Coffs Harbour scandal broke – false, Noad was not at the Bulldogs at that time, Wilson never called to check.

4. Sunday Telegraph story about David Gallop witnessing Bulldogs and Roosters players wrestling out the front of the Clovelly Hotel – false, Gallop has denied this. Rebecca Wilson apologised to David Gallop, not to the Bulldogs.

5. Daily Telegraph story about Gallop text message. Refers to the Bulldogs saying Gallop was wrong in fining them over the salary cap. Bulldogs have always said we will review the breach notice and possibly appeal it. No personal comment was ever made by the Bulldogs against Gallop.

6. Daily Telegraph story claiming that five police officers being investigated by the Police Integrity Commission are victims of the Bulldogs and the Coffs Harbour scandal. This investigation regarding the possibility that police revealed information from phone taps is being conducted in private and no judgment has occurred. How does Rebecca Wilson know if they are guilty or innocent?

After including the newspapers’ editors in correspondence to Rebecca Wilson asking for her to correct her errors, nothing was done by the newspapers. What recourse is open to the Bulldogs when incorrect information is printed in the Daily and Sunday Telegraphs?

Regards

Malcolm Noad
CEO
Mitsubishi Electric Bulldogs

Well done Malcom. :)
 
Re: Reb Wilson... JOKE

Well Done Malcolm Noad... 99% of Bulldog supporters are with you!!! Most RL supporters, support your stand!!!!
 
Re: Reb Wilson... JOKE

Sad thing is - the Bulldogs have probably given her exactly what she wants.

Wilson is revelling in all this.
 
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LebaneseForces said:
Well Done Malcolm Noad... 99% of Bulldog supporters are with you!!! Most RL supporters, support your stand!!!!

Well, what would you expect when the very same Rebecca Wilson printed a totally unsubstantiated rumour about Swans players getting involved in "ugly incidents" at Circular Quay Station because somebody on Leagueunlimited.com made it up so that they would leave RL alone for 30 seconds.

Full marks to Malcolm Noad for saying what he did. She has NO STREET CREDIBILITY, I tell you! :mad:

JF
PS:- Then I found out it was Choppies from LU who started the rumours. He just happens to be one of our gang at the Kings NBL matches (and now Swans games too). :eek:
 
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JF_Bay_22_SCG said:
Well, what would you expect when the very same Rebecca Wilson printed a totally unsubstantiated rumour about Swans players getting involved in "ugly incidents" at Circular Quay Station because somebody on Leagueunlimited.com made it up so that they would leave RL alone for 30 seconds.

Full marks to Malcolm Noad for saying what he did. She has NO STREET CREDIBILITY, I tell you! :mad:

JF
PS:- Then I found out it was Choppies from LU who started the rumours. He just happens to be one of our gang at the Kings NBL matches (and now Swans games too). :eek:

if she didn't bother to check her facts on the Bulldogs, why would she do the same with the Swans

if an email from Choppies can get tongues wagging and newspaper selling, it just shows how much truth is generated by gossip writers
 
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Lacquer Head said:
if she didn't bother to check her facts on the Bulldogs, why would she do the same with the Swans

if an email from Choppies can get tongues wagging and newspaper selling, it just shows how much truth is generated by gossip writers

Then you see her in the Telegraph's AFL lift out saying how she is a big Swans fan.

she is pimple on the face of the sporting journalism world. That is why she hasn't got much further than "the Fat" on the ABC.

JF
 

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