Opinion The Ruck. We need to talk.

[Psicosis]

Would be a mistake to not give Goldy another contract. X isn't a sure thing, Goldy drives competition, Goldy is still a far superior tap and follow up posession ruckman.

 

[Harvey Manfrenjensenden]

X is serviceable and improving and that's all a ruck needs to be

 

[Samsquanch]

X is serviceable and improving and that's all a ruck needs to be

Geez it would be nice if he could drop into the forward line and snag a few sausages though.

 

[viccles]

Prefer Xeri over CCJ. Both are not the solution and Goldy should stick around for another year until we find one

 

[The Nostradamus]

we need to recruit ruck depth

jordan sweet out of contract
matt flynn unrestricted free agent
grundy a cheap pick up to take his salary

 

[glenn2479]

The ruck and small forward positions seem tailor made for raiding other clubs surplus needs. Draft investment in these positions seems unnecessary

 

[King Corey]

Bit misleading because 2013 Todd Goldstein

17

Todd Goldstein

Age

36

Ht

201cm

Wt

101kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.2

3star

K

5.7

2star

HB

7.5

5star

CL

3.1

5star

HO

32.5

5star

D

16.7

4star

K

9.3

4star

HB

7.4

4star

CL

7.0

5star

HO

32.9

5star

D

5.2

2star

K

2.6

1star

HB

2.6

3star

HO

10.0

5star

was a **** ton better than current Tristan Xerri

38

Tristan Xerri

Age

25

Ht

202cm

Wt

99kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

5.5

1star

K

3.0

1star

HB

2.5

2star

CL

1.0

3star

HO

2.5

5star

D

5.5

1star

K

3.0

1star

HB

2.5

2star

CL

1.0

3star

HO

2.5

5star

D

5.5

2star

K

3.0

1star

HB

2.5

3star

CL

1.0

3star

HO

2.5

5star

.

But their pros and cons balance out in a head to head comparison more than I'd have guessed.

 

[koshari]

Can someone please open a Zambrero in the inner-west? Yarraville or Newport or Williamstown. I'm not greedy.

shut up and buy some dim sims.

 

[koshari]

So, should we polish up that old "It's Happening" gif or would it be just a tad too soon?

Asking for a friend of course.

if i had my way i would put the gif in my sig.

 

[Mixed Results]

I don’t think it’s fair to compare anyone to Todd Goldstein

17

Todd Goldstein

Age

36

Ht

201cm

Wt

101kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.2

3star

K

5.7

2star

HB

7.5

5star

CL

3.1

5star

HO

32.5

5star

D

16.7

4star

K

9.3

4star

HB

7.4

4star

CL

7.0

5star

HO

32.9

5star

D

5.2

2star

K

2.6

1star

HB

2.6

3star

HO

10.0

5star

.

There’s no issue with Xerri being worse than Goldstein. There’s a chance that every ruck that we name for the next 50 odd years won’t be as good as Goldstein.

I think Xerri has shown enough to deserve a year as the number one ruck option.

 

[shinboner magic]

Trade in a ruck and xerri can be backup
Draft a 18yr old beanpole
If the above happens Goldy to retire and Edwards to be delisted

 

[outwecome2play]

Having decent rucks doesn't mean success.
Geelong haven't had a decent ruck for years.
Collingwood aren't real strong either.
We need class all over the field and we are slowly getting there.

 

[JGreezy]

Having decent rucks doesn't mean success.
Geelong haven't had a decent ruck for years.
Collingwood aren't real strong either.
We need class all over the field and we are slowly getting there.

I think that they have decent rucks but not great rucks. You need decent.

 

[Psicosis]

We can keep Goldy on the list and add further ruck depth to the list, without writing off X.

If this year has taught us anything, it's list managements "single source of failure" approach for positions across the ground, isn't a good one.

 

[koshari]

Trade in a ruck and xerri can be backup
Draft a 18yr old beanpole
If the above happens Goldy to retire and Edwards to be delisted

edwards delisting stands by itself and doesnt rely on another list activity.

 

[koshari]

Having decent rucks doesn't mean success.
Geelong haven't had a decent ruck for years.
Collingwood aren't real strong either.
We need class all over the field and we are slowly getting there.

yeah but by the same token they dont have 3 ruck projects clogging their list, they have mobile ruck rover types that give them value in other areas,

 

[Its a Process]

Wonder if we turn Lloyd Meeks’s head from the Hawks - he came over thinking he’d be first choice but he’s fallen behind Reeves. Played VFL on the weekend.

 

[North Star Investments]

Ideally, we get recruit Brodie Grundy

4

Brodie Grundy

Age

30

Ht

202cm

Wt

105kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.5

4star

K

8.0

3star

HB

9.6

5star

CL

4.1

5star

HO

32.0

5star

D

16.4

4star

K

6.8

3star

HB

9.6

5star

CL

4.0

5star

HO

34.6

5star

D

13.8

4star

K

5.2

2star

HB

8.6

5star

CL

2.6

5star

HO

20.6

5star

and draft Archer Reid at year's end.

The next most draftable after our port pick is Will Green.

He is Nate Caddy's mate. His strength is his tap-work. He can also play full forward. He practises using his hips. He also knows how to stack shelves at Coles.

He is projected around Pick 25.

2023 Coates Talent League Profile Series - Will Green

Get to know Will Green from the Northern Knights

www.afl.com.au

William Green of the Knights. Picture: Morgan Hancock/AFL Photos/via Getty ImagesSource: Getty Images


25. WILL GREEN

Position: Ruck

Size: 204cm

Clubs: Northern Knights/Northcote

Elevated his standing after an excellent carnival for Vic Metro where he showed off his running power, mobility and competitiveness. Green’s best game came against Ethan Read and the Allies, working himself into the game and finishing with 11 disposals, four clearances and a game-high 30 hit-outs. A co-captain of the Knights, Green also has good ruck craft.



Here is about 30 seconds of him in action.

 

[kool kangas]

So, should we polish up that old "It's Happening" gif or would it be just a tad too soon?

Asking for a friend of course.

keep it on standby for when Ben McKay re-signs...

 

[the big lebowski]

Not really seeing an issue. No, xerri isn’t as good as one of the best and most unique rucks in afl history.

Xerri was ok against Marshall who is a gun. He’s also almost 28 vs Xerri who is 24 and missed 4 months of footy.

Sure we need a young ruck to develop but im not sure it is the pressing concern being made out here.

 

[DuckYeah]

X is serviceable and improving and that's all a ruck needs to be

Serviceable? Would he play first ruck at any other club?

 

[Harvey Manfrenjensenden]

Serviceable? Would he play first ruck at any other club?

Yes

 

[Gasometer]

I imagine, knowing us, we'll get Nic Nat on a 5 year deal at 800K per year.

King Corey re why we need to talk

Exhibit A

 

[DuckYeah]

Yes

Which one? WRFL div 3 doesn’t count

 

[Themanbun]

Rucks seem easiest to pry out of other clubs so I'm not sure I'd spend a huge amount of draft capital on it.