Conspiracy Theory The Russia-Ukraine War

[faible]

A long time ago by the Rothchilds/Deep State.

Goodness.

So all the videos coming out the last week? Real or fake?

 

[BlueE]

Why John Mearsheimer Blames the U.S. for the Crisis in Ukraine

For years, the political scientist has claimed that Putin’s aggression toward Ukraine is caused by Western intervention. Have recent events changed his mind?

www.newyorker.com

 

[bourbons]

You wrongly attribute what I've said in my posts on Ukraine which I been making for over a year, to statements that I didn't make, so you can attack them.

I've addressed your cheap gotcha questions fully, while you can't remember any questions I've asked, becasue they go to the centre of years of Ukraine corruption?

What does matter is what happened to the IMF one billion dollars deposited with PrivatBank, Biden's one billion or money made by the numerous energy companies?

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Conspiracy Theory - The Russia-Ukraine War

W Wouldn't have happened in the first place. China and Russia were on the back foot when Trump was in office. Biden gets elected and suddenly China and Russia become very aggressive towards their neighbours. You lefties wanted Biden in office because apparently Mean Tweets Trump was going to...

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Many thanks for finally clarifying what you were asking. It was hard to tell amongst the statements of personal beliefs and Kremlin propaganda.

I'll start with the link you provided - the 2 questions you're asking here are;

• How many people lost lives and continued fighting or became became refugees after that?
• Where did most of the one billion dollars from the International Monetary Fund deposited into PrivatBank after 2014 go?

I'm not sure how many people lost lives or became refugees after that - thinking that you do? Lay it on me. I'm also unsure of where the one billion went, take your pick - Ukraine was (is?) one of the most corrupt countries in the world. For the purposes of this discussion and in the interests of brevity - sure why not, Biden is in there too, taking his cut.

• What does matter is what happened to the IMF one billion dollars deposited with PrivatBank, Biden's one billion or money made by the numerous energy companies?

No, that doesn't matter as it relates to the discussion we were having about the will of the Ukrainian people, because all this occurred after 2014. It has nothing whatsover to do with the clear and anti-Russia desire of Ukrainians for change, and that being the driver for the 2014 revolution, primarily via some specific and very unpopular actions from Yanukovych. Yes, it aligned with the interests of the west. No, it did not happen only because the US wanted it to. No, they did not install a puppet government. The people voted.

I notice you're still unwilling to unequivocally acknowledge the majority desires of Ukrainian people. I first brought it up in #7594 - which you ignored and started talking about events after 2014, in #7602. I tried again in #7647, asking you about this directly - again, you completely ignored it, in your response to me in #7650.

Why is that, товарищ? Why does it seem like its impossible for you to acknowledge an objective reality?

 

[bourbons]

Goodness.

So all the videos coming out the last week? Real or fake?

Oh boy, strapping myself in for Lebbo73's response to this one.

I legit don't know which way he'll go, the excitement is killing me!

 

[faible]

Many thanks for finally clarifying what you were asking. It was hard to tell amongst the statements of personal beliefs and Kremlin propaganda.

I'll start with the link you provided - the 2 questions you're asking here are;

• How many people lost lives and continued fighting or became became refugees after that?
• Where did most of the one billion dollars from the International Monetary Fund deposited into PrivatBank after 2014 go?

I'm not sure how many people lost lives or became refugees after that - thinking that you do? Lay it on me. I'm also unsure of where the one billion went, take your pick - Ukraine was (is?) one of the most corrupt countries in the world. For the purposes of this discussion and in the interests of brevity - sure why not, Biden is in there too, taking his cut.

• What does matter is what happened to the IMF one billion dollars deposited with PrivatBank, Biden's one billion or money made by the numerous energy companies?

No, that doesn't matter as it relates to the discussion we were having about the will of the Ukrainian people, because all this occurred after 2014. It has nothing whatsover to do with the clear and anti-Russia desire of Ukrainians for change, and that being the driver for the 2014 revolution. Yes, it aligned with the interests of the west. No, it did not happen only because the US wanted it to. No, they did not install a puppet government. The people voted.

I notice you're still unwilling to unequivocally acknowledge the majority desires of Ukrainian people. I first brought it up in #7594 - which you ignored and started talking about events after 2014, in #7602. I tried again in #7647, asking you about this directly - again, you completely ignored it, in your response to me in #7650.

Why is that, товарищ? Why does it seem like its impossible for you to acknowledge an objective reality?

A number of people seem entirely incapable of envisioning any situation on the planet can occur without the US orchestrating it.

 

[pinko77]

Less than you do, I'd imagine.

But in any case, yep - letting Billy Bob with his AR handle it is clearly the move when it comes to rooting out CCP spies

But you don't mind the Ukraine doing it.
You can throw your soy milk at them.

 

[bourbons]

But you don't mind the Ukraine doing it.
You can throw your soy milk at them.

Haha, there it is

No, and I wouldn't mind any other country including the US doing it were they under active invasion and similarly so precariously positioned. This isn't complicated, surely

 

[Marcel Proust]

с возвращением, товарищ!

F**k me, how reliable are you. Imagine posting that video like it means something nefarious about Ukraine's motives, coz you get triggered by the phrase "new world order". Cooked. Unable to discuss any topic whatsoever without inserting conspiracy theory nonsense


Have you asked any questions? Believe the closest you've got to that is rambling about the 2014 revolution being a wholly US operation, the MP vote in support being due to a US PR campaign, and that it somehow didn't matter anyway coz Yanukovych was already in exile.

Try framing your question in plain english and syntax, and I'll be more than happy to have a crack. Pro-tip: questions generally end with one of these -> ?

Here, I'll give you some examples to get you started:

• Do you believe the majority of Ukraine's armed forces are nazis?
• Do you believe the jewish Ukrainian president is a nazi?
• Do you think a military invasion of a sovereign country is reasonable if nazis reside within it? If so, what % of the population are we talking to justify it - 2% nazis and and in ya go? 5%? 10%?

God damn, dude. "al Qaeda’s Homeland"

Veterans Today - Bias and Credibility

CONSPIRACY-PSEUDOSCIENCE Sources in the Conspiracy-Pseudoscience category may publish unverifiable information that is not always supported by evidence.

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Just lol

Sounds like the Azov boys may not be around mich longer. Going by reports from mariupol

 

[Fwoy]

 

[faible]

Have people met Americans? There's definitely a lot who'd have no idea whatsoever where Ukraine is on a map.

 

[LuvtheKangas]

At least we can all agree on one thing now that guns are good for defending yourself (but not for criminals)
So all the talk of unarming the USA should be put to bed.
Around 15 million people are pretty handy with a gun try and invade that.

You've just outed yourself as being on the same intellectual level as Jr. Embarrassing (but certainly not surprising).

 

[mcnulty]

A number of people seem entirely incapable of envisioning any situation on the planet can occur without the US orchestrating it.

Except Trump of course. For the same people he’s squeaky clean. Even though NATO expanded under his watch.

 

[bourbons]

Sounds like the Azov boys may not be around mich longer. Going by reports from mariupol

Great! Putin will no doubt pull back once this nazi threat has been eliminated, right?

 

[faible]

Except Trump of course. For the same people he’s squeaky clean. Even though NATO expanded under his watch.

It's some seriously hilarious cognitive dissonance.

 

[pinko77]

You've just outed yourself as being on the same intellectual level as Jr. Embarrassing (but certainly not surprising).

Great minds think alike.

 

[Marcel Proust]

Great! Putin will no doubt pull back once this nazi threat has been eliminated, right?

Hopefully he settles for the people’s republics of Donetsk and Lugansk plus his land bridge to crimea

 

[bourbons]

Hopefully he settles for the people’s republics of Donetsk and Lugansk plus his land bridge to crimea

Would be grand (at this point), but can't see it happening.

There's still the jewish nazi president to take out after all.

 

[LuvtheKangas]

Great minds think alike.

Unironically embracing a comparison of you to Jr. Nice.

 

[Werewolf]

Have people met Americans? There's definitely a lot who'd have no idea whatsoever where Ukraine is on a map.

True, but her "explanation" was kindergarten level. Apparently this was Putin's reaction:

 

[Mofra]

Have people met Americans? There's definitely a lot who'd have no idea whatsoever where Ukraine is on a map.

Probably some posters on this thread who had to consult Google maps.

 

[faible]

True, but her "explanation" was kindergarten level. Apparently this was Putin's reaction:

She was asked to explain it to a lay-person, ie. someone with no prior information on the topic.

It's a really bizarre criticism people are trying to make.

"Person asked to explain in very simple terms, explains in very simple terms."

"HOW DARE SHE"

 

[bourbons]

lol

Ukraineâs former President Yanukovych ousted in 2014 is in Minsk, Kremlin wants to reinstall him in Kyiv

Fugitive ex-President Viktor Yanukovych is currently in Minsk, and the Kremlin is currently preparing him for a special operation, according to Ukrainian intelligence.

www.pravda.com.ua

But yep, the 2014 revolution that saw him ousted was a wholly US invention. Definitely not coz the Ukranian people didn't want a Russian puppet.

 

[BlueE]

She was asked to explain it to a lay-person, ie. someone with no prior information on the topic.

It's a really bizarre criticism people are trying to make.

"Person asked to explain in very simple terms, explains in very simple terms."

"HOW DARE SHE"

At least she knows that Putin is surrounding Ukraine and not Iran

 

[BlueE]

It's some seriously hilarious cognitive dissonance.

Only from you.

 

[bourbons]

At least she knows that Putin is surrounding Ukraine and not Iran

At least he named an actual country