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What's the best way to get cheaper Kayo? I have it at $15 pm thanks to some deal I got 12 months ago - that's going to expire soon and I'll be paying full whack, which I don't want to do cos I'm a cheap campaigner and f*&k Murdoch.
Just on kayo.If you get home halfway through us slaughtering the cats again in a final can you watch the game from the start there & then or do you have to wait until the game is finished?
 
"Back in my day"

50 years ago, did he jump up and down demanding to be called "it" "they" "them"?

No. And the world loved him and his evolution.

The latest breed of gender benders are late to the party and doing it all wrong and being divisive and not promoting inclusiveness



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These people are perfect examples of non binary individuals
Who were trailblazers for members of these community’s and I’m sure would be some of the biggest allies for people in these communities today

Like I said earlier it affects you in absolutely no way not calling them a he or she why wouldn’t you do it

Think of it this way, would you get frustrated if posters only referenced you as female pronouns on here?
 

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These people are perfect examples of non binary individuals
Who were trailblazers for members of these community’s and I’m sure would be some of the biggest allies for people in these communities today

Like I said earlier it affects you in absolutely no way not calling them a he or she why wouldn’t you do it

Think of it this way, would you get frustrated if posters only referenced you as female pronouns on here?
I get what you are trying to say, but on the flip side, what if you respect the science more???

People can think whatever they like about themselves, and ask for others to do similar, but they can't force them.

Because the ideology that allows them to be as fluid as they want, is also the same ideology (but in different context) that might not allow someone to agree.

No one is saying people can't do/think what they want to/about themselves, but then they also have to respect the fact others are allowed their own idividual opinion as well and can't get sh!tty if those opinions disagree.


For example, If I suddenly have the opinion anyone that uses the word dog to describe someone else is racists, I am allowed that opinion, but that doesn't mean everyone has to now accept that opinion around me nor do they have to agree with my opinion. They might respect the fact I have it, but don't agree with nor comply with that line of thinking.

Calling a male a He and a female a She is not disrespectful, it's stating a factual appearance and in no way is it taking away the right for that person to think of themselves as something else.
 
I get what you are trying to say, but on the flip side, what if you respect the science more???

People can think whatever they like about themselves, and ask for others to do similar, but they can't force them.

Because the ideology that allows them to be as fluid as they want, is also the same ideology (but in different context) that might not allow someone to agree.

No one is saying people can't do/think what they want to/about themselves, but then they also have to respect the fact others are allowed their own idividual opinion as well and can't get sh!tty if those opinions disagree.


For example, If I suddenly have the opinion anyone that uses the word dog to describe someone else is racists, I am allowed that opinion, but that doesn't mean everyone has to now accept that opinion around me nor do they have to agree with my opinion. They might respect the fact I have it, but don't agree with nor comply with that line of thinking.

Calling a male a He and a female a She is not disrespectful, it's stating a factual appearance and in no way is it taking away the right for that person to think of themselves as something else.
But that’s the thing they aren’t talking about the scientific side it’s confusing but the simple way is sex is what you scientifically born as and is what you are on a genetic level but gender and the modern assumptions that come with it are what they identify as
It’s merely a label, you need to separate the scientific side from the sociological side it’s about self identity

It’s the same as identifying as a certain religion or sexual orientation

It’s not something that can easily be explained, but if you set aside the time and spent some time doing some reading or even just having a chat with people who have first hand experience it can be very enlightening

A lot of these conversations aren’t new either
 

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But that’s the thing they aren’t talking about the scientific side it’s confusing but the simple way is sex is what you scientifically born as and is what you are on a genetic level but gender and the modern assumptions that come with it are what they identify as
It’s merely a label, you need to separate the scientific side from the sociological side it’s about self identity

It’s the same as identifying as a certain religion or sexual orientation

It’s not something that can easily be explained, but if you set aside the time and spent some time doing some reading or even just having a chat with people who have first hand experience it can be very enlightening

A lot of these conversations aren’t new either
To be fair, I'm all for them/they having this point of view, I'm not actually arguing against it. What I am saying, is that I also understand the opposing view.

I certainly understand the two are different, one is a physical (scientific) description of a person, they other is who they feel they emotionally identify as.

And again, I have no problem with either view, I'm trying to be clear on that.

But when most people call someone else a he or she, especially someone they don't know well or intimately, then they are usually describing their physical appearance, because that is all they know that person by, not who the person identifies as. AND THATS OK. We can't get angry at people who don't comply to something that, in essence, they haven't got wrong. People also need to understand/accept that, while they may wish everyone also sees them as whatever they identify as, not everyone will agree or be inclined to follow that path.

It's not taking away anyone's rights to identify as whatever they want...
It's not disrespecting that right either...
It's about not crucifying people who don't agree nor acknowledge, for whatever reason, who also have right to do so


The world is becoming like twitter, you're either right or wrong, dare I say it, black or white, but the reality is, there is so much middle ground or 'grey' and we have to learn to respect everyones opinions and beliefs. I just feel like we are getting to a stage where if you don't follow someone's differing opinion, you are then outcast for doing so, and personally, I think that is A) hypocritical and B) a very dangerous a sh!tty path to follow.
 
But that’s the thing they aren’t talking about the scientific side it’s confusing but the simple way is sex is what you scientifically born as and is what you are on a genetic level but gender and the modern assumptions that come with it are what they identify as
It’s merely a label, you need to separate the scientific side from the sociological side it’s about self identity

It’s the same as identifying as a certain religion or sexual orientation

It’s not something that can easily be explained, but if you set aside the time and spent some time doing some reading or even just having a chat with people who have first hand experience it can be very enlightening

A lot of these conversations aren’t new either
All well and good. I don’t particularly care what “insert appropriate label” call themselves, just don’t get all vindictive towards those that still believe in male and female biology.
 
All well and good. I don’t particularly care what “insert appropriate label” call themselves, just don’t get all vindictive towards those that still believe in male and female biology.
That’s the thing, they aren’t arguing against the biological facts they are talking about self expansion

Sex and Gender are two different things, one relates directly to biology and the other is the self identification

 
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