haywood jablome
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Told you, that mother ****ing word cuts people.Definitely*.
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Brown Bottle
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I'm convinced that there are people who think they look smarter by randomly throwing an apostrophe into words ending in "s". I'd be a lot happier if they simply didn't use one at all. It annoys the shit out of me.
There is a cafe/restaurant in Ballarat that had (I left a few years ago but it's probably still there) a professionally printed menu board proudly displayed on its walls:
Sandwiches
Baguette's
Focaccias
Pizza's
Muffins
You get the idea. I couldn't stand looking at it. I often wondered whether either the proprietors or the signwriter were aware of it.
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The worst thing is, is I was thinking about it as I was typing it. I know it had been commented on earlier and I still got the f######g thing wrong. lmao
I will definitely never get it wrong again
I will definitely never get it wrong again
Ljp86
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Hate poor grammar, refuse to use the SMS speak just because I'm so against using it. I don't see the point in it and the whole teeny/text thing is something I don't want to be a part of. I would rather read a long text using proper grammar rather than spend ten minutes reading something I can barely decipher.
Butchering the English language is something that shits me and the amount of people in my generation who spell words wrong or even whole phrases/sentences is astounding really.
Butchering the English language is something that shits me and the amount of people in my generation who spell words wrong or even whole phrases/sentences is astounding really.
One that has been popping up quite frequently recently has been "rapt" and "wrapped".
"Wrapped" means to be covered as in; "I wrapped my sandwich up"
"Rapt" is a feeling of delight as in; "I was rapt with the win"
Almost every tenth post on the main board has someone saying how wrapped they were with something.
As for me, I find people who use the abbreviated form of words when they speak (its bad enough when they type them) incredibly annoying. My sisters and their friends are particularly guilty of this, constantly using ily (I Love You) and other abbreviations such as "whatevs".
"Wrapped" means to be covered as in; "I wrapped my sandwich up"
"Rapt" is a feeling of delight as in; "I was rapt with the win"
Almost every tenth post on the main board has someone saying how wrapped they were with something.
As for me, I find people who use the abbreviated form of words when they speak (its bad enough when they type them) incredibly annoying. My sisters and their friends are particularly guilty of this, constantly using ily (I Love You) and other abbreviations such as "whatevs".
AGREE, it takes me longer to read text speak or is that "txt spk", than long form as it takes so long to work what the f.. people are trying to say.
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One which pops up a lot in my life is people saying "I bought something to school" and "I brought a new CD the other day." "I bet him in the match" is also very common around here.
It just makes me think how lucky I am that my parents cared enough, to take the time to teach me the basics of the English language.
It seems to me that many parents (especially around my area) just don't care enough to take an interest in their kids education, which, in turn, gives the child bad learning habits, and a poor work ethic. I hear kids all the time, after they've been corrected or made a mistake just shrug and say "I don't care, that's stupid anyway." If the parents had made an effort to help their kid with school/homework, this would not be the case.
It just makes me think how lucky I am that my parents cared enough, to take the time to teach me the basics of the English language.
It seems to me that many parents (especially around my area) just don't care enough to take an interest in their kids education, which, in turn, gives the child bad learning habits, and a poor work ethic. I hear kids all the time, after they've been corrected or made a mistake just shrug and say "I don't care, that's stupid anyway." If the parents had made an effort to help their kid with school/homework, this would not be the case.
"Would/could/should of" is extremely frustrating. Just looking at it grinds my gears because the word "of" makes not sense when added to the first word(s).
Another, which you will mainly hear from kids around the place rather online, is "My team is versing your's on Saturday." For shame.
Lastly, there a couple of commentary cliches that are used roundly but don't seem quite right to me, any clarification would be appreciated:
1 - "Australia is winning by 2 goals to 1."
Should it not be, "Australia is winning by one goal, the score is 2 to 1."
2 - "It's hotting up."
Heating up?
I'm picky.
As a (high school) teacher, my thoughts on poor literacy and numeracy are put down to two reasons - a movement away from rote learning (memorization, say of times tables) and towards a mixture of activities that appeal to iGen and more obviously, less participation taken by parents in the education of kids at home.
Another, which you will mainly hear from kids around the place rather online, is "My team is versing your's on Saturday." For shame.
Lastly, there a couple of commentary cliches that are used roundly but don't seem quite right to me, any clarification would be appreciated:
1 - "Australia is winning by 2 goals to 1."
Should it not be, "Australia is winning by one goal, the score is 2 to 1."
2 - "It's hotting up."
Heating up?
I'm picky.
As a (high school) teacher, my thoughts on poor literacy and numeracy are put down to two reasons - a movement away from rote learning (memorization, say of times tables) and towards a mixture of activities that appeal to iGen and more obviously, less participation taken by parents in the education of kids at home.
My young cousin failed her English assignment last year because she wrote in sms.
Parents can make as much of an effort as they want. In the end it is up to the individual.
I was getting close to failing English at school, until Year 11 when I had a new teacher who made my interest in writing explode. I then had a job in year 12 doing some small articles for a magazine and now even more.
I hated maths. Until I started gambling. Now I want to go study maths. Would never have seen myself doing that.
I would say "Australia is winning, 2 to 1"
So for me. My parents drilled me. Punished me for not doing homework. In the end I became interested in the subjects myself and generally wanted to do well, regardless of what my parents said.
Parents can make as much of an effort as they want. In the end it is up to the individual.
I was getting close to failing English at school, until Year 11 when I had a new teacher who made my interest in writing explode. I then had a job in year 12 doing some small articles for a magazine and now even more.
I hated maths. Until I started gambling. Now I want to go study maths. Would never have seen myself doing that.
I would say "Australia is winning, 2 to 1"
So for me. My parents drilled me. Punished me for not doing homework. In the end I became interested in the subjects myself and generally wanted to do well, regardless of what my parents said.
SJ
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This seems to be common in all football codes bar Australian football, and I assume has been around for generations. Doesn't make sense to me either.
Pet gripe: Lose/loose.
As in: "Our team is loosing the match."
Oh that peeves me off no end! Quotes like "you're a looser" and "you are so retarted" are pinnacles of self-ownage.
Another annoying one which is seemingly becoming more widespread is the erroneous use of the phrase "beg the question", as if "beg" in this context is somehow synonymous with the word "raise". An argument in logic "begs the question" if it improperly assumes as true the very point for which the speaker is attempting to argue. Most people are unlikely to ever even need to have to use the phrase in its correct sense, or at least would not think to do so. "Raise the question" is, however, correct.
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Not sure I'm following this.
So (for example) if I said this thread 'begs the question' why none of these dumbarse kids today know how to spell properly...
That would be an incorrect use of the phrase?
It's one of those expressions which, over time, has seen its true meaning expanded and misconstrued. When most people use the phrase, they use it to mean that a particular event/statement naturally invites the asking of an obvious question in relation to that event/statement.
"Begging the question", as I mentioned above, is a logical fallacy in which the argument improperly assumes as true the very point for which the speaker is attempting to argue. In other words, the premises are as dubious as the conclusion. So, if you said something like "I didn't steal the football because I am not a thief", I could reply that your argument "begs the question". But, as I said earlier, relatively few people will ever in reality be confronted with the sort of context in which the expression "beg the question" can be correctly applied.
Having said that, language does evolve over time, and some might argue that the frequency with which "beg the question" is (erroneously) used has gradually legitimized "beg the question" as being a phrase synonymous with "raise the question".
To answer your question directly, yes, I believe that the example you give features an incorrect use of "beg the question".
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Well there you go. I never knew that. I always thought it was the same as saying something 'raises the question'.
I never thought I would actually learn something about proper English on bigfooty. Even though I'll probably forget in a couple of days anyway.
I never thought I would actually learn something about proper English on bigfooty. Even though I'll probably forget in a couple of days anyway.
'then' instead of 'than'
'to' and 'too'
'your' and 'you're'
'could of/would of/should of' (instead of 'have')
'worse' instead of 'worst'
But loose instead of lose has to take the cake...
Yep, there's plenty of ******s out there.
'to' and 'too'
'your' and 'you're'
'could of/would of/should of' (instead of 'have')
'worse' instead of 'worst'
But loose instead of lose has to take the cake...
Yep, there's plenty of ******s out there.
There's one thing I really hate on forums. It's when the poster inserts the actions they are doing inside their post. There is one poster on this site who is guilty of this, and it is ridiculously annoying.
Here is a sample:
Hi guys, I was just wondering *scratches head* what grammatical *looks at ground* and spelling mistakes you find frustrating. I think they are all becoming *Wipes nose* far too common on this site, knowhatimean?
Here is a sample:
Hi guys, I was just wondering *scratches head* what grammatical *looks at ground* and spelling mistakes you find frustrating. I think they are all becoming *Wipes nose* far too common on this site, knowhatimean?
If it's a number between one and ten could you please write the word and not the number.
I had a grade 7 teacher that wrote 'time wasted' the whiteboard as 'time waisted'.
I have to admit to struggle with spelling definitely.
Plenty of people don't know the difference between its and it's. People using apostrophes for plurals really piss me off. It's posts not post's.
I have to admit to struggle with spelling definitely.
Plenty of people don't know the difference between its and it's. People using apostrophes for plurals really piss me off. It's posts not post's.
The Age, 20 February 2009
Despite transcribing from a verbal (oral?) interview, this should have been corrected - unless it was provided in writing, in which case [sic] would have been appropriate.
Reported to The Age (newsdesk) 12.20pm, 20 February 2009 (note - click on link later to see if article has been corrected)
SJ
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12:55PM, one of the three has been changed.
4.44pm, two out of the three have been changed.
