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a skidmark in tightie whities > Gibbs

I am so sick of the Tambling is worse then (insert player name), look how many teams didn't draft James Hird, or Chris Grant etc...but you don't see those arguements.

Trying to compare Gibbs to Tambling is ridiculous they play vastly different roles, it's like comparing how Shane Edwards played compared to Leuenberger (sp?)
 

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parrot said:
Don't understand. Anyway, I know there's a lot of anti-Carlton sentiment directed through Gibbs. But really, we are actually very happy with his first season. It was FAR from a disappointment. Not even close. He rarely got beaten, and provided valuable rebound. Ratten moved him into the middle in the last game, and he was awesome. Denis's plan was to make Gibbs do negating roles for the whole of his first season, rather that play midfield from day 1. There are arguments for and against that approach. I actually think it was the right approach in term of his long term development, because it developed his accountability, and protected him from the physical demands of playing midfield year one. In hindsight, Murph played way too much midfield in his first year, and got injured. We didn't want to make the same mistake with Gibbs. He's now much much stronger, and able to withstand the rigors of a midfield role better. Those who have watched Gibbs play closely at AFL and SANFL level, know this guy is a once in a generation top-shelf talent. :)
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Poor deluded sole parrot
 
parrot said:
Anyway, I know there's a lot of anti-Carlton sentiment directed through Gibbs. But really, we are actually very happy with his first season. It was FAR from a disappointment. Not even close.
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It's just you could have got someone better, or reaped better rewards for your tanking over the last few years.

Draft day 2006, Carlton would have already been aware that Judd would be out of contract, and the plans would have already been set in place to tank 2007 and have a priority pick to use as a bargaining chip with West Coast.

So knowing that they'd be getting Judd, they should have picked an actual proper ruckman instead of Gibbs (Leuenberger), and with the tanked draft picks for 2007 picked an actual gun midfielder instead of Kruezer (Cotchin).

Season 2008 for the Blues have a gun ruck with already a year of development, tapping to Judd and a ready made midfielder in Cotchin.

You might say hindsight is a wonderful thing, but in reality Carlton just drafted wrong. They had their chance, but got swept up in Bryce-mania.

This is all good news for Richmond though as we would have been left with a wannabe Josh Fraser clone at pick number 2.
 
parrot said:
Don't understand. Anyway, I know there's a lot of anti-Carlton sentiment directed through Gibbs. But really, we are actually very happy with his first season. It was FAR from a disappointment. Not even close. He rarely got beaten, and provided valuable rebound. Ratten moved him into the middle in the last game, and he was awesome. :)
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I was at that game and saw Gibbs get his 23 possesions, a lot of which (6 or 7) were dished out to him when he was hanging on the outside. (not a having a go at him just a fact).

If you describe a 23 possesion game by a midfileder as awesome then now i see where your optimism comes from. Your standards are very low.
 
Anyone who diss's Gibbs should be prepared to eat their own words..... The kid is an absolute gun
 

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nut said:
Franklin> Tambling blah blah blah

...

I for one still believe we should have taken him No.1..... and you can laugh all you want. If I had to pick between Franklin and Tambling right now, and chose a player that was going to help win us a premiership, I would still pick Tambling.
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Let's be clear for one - it's going to take about 10 - 12 players to get close to winning you a premiership with your current list of duds, so don't be spending any time worrying about chosing "a player".

Point two, at 20 Buddy is the third best forward in the comp and Tambling wouldn't be in the best 40 midfielders. Can only think you were being silly ot are a relative.
 
Collins-Langford-Ayres said:
Let's be clear for one - it's going to take about 10 - 12 players to get close to winning you a premiership with your current list of duds, so don't be spending any time worrying about chosing "a player".

Point two, at 20 Buddy is the third best forward in the comp and Tambling wouldn't be in the best 40 midfielders. Can only think you were being silly ot are a relative.
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Nothing like making a BIG statement hey, champ.
 
Collins-Langford-Ayres said:
Let's be clear for one - it's going to take about 10 - 12 players to get close to winning you a premiership with your current list of duds, so don't be spending any time worrying about chosing "a player".

Point two, at 20 Buddy is the third best forward in the comp and Tambling wouldn't be in the best 40 midfielders. Can only think you were being silly ot are a relative.
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3rd best behind who dicksnap? Probably would put Brown, Riewoldt, Lloyd, Johnson, Fevola, Mooney, Pavlich, Richardson, Lynch, Hall, Lucas and Gehrig before Buddy. More like at 20, Buddy is on his 3rd strike.:D
 
BOPPER said:
3rd best behind who dicksnap? Probably would put Brown, Riewoldt, Lloyd, Johnson, Fevola, Mooney, Pavlich, Richardson, Lynch, Hall, Lucas and Gehrig before Buddy. More like at 20, Buddy is on his 3rd strike.:D
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Top-5 I'd say. At this stage..

The top-shelf talent group...
1. Fev. Best FF in the AFL
2. Brown. Best CHF in the AFL
3. Gap

The almost top-shelf group
4. Franklin

The slightly over-rated group
5. Riewoldt (over-rated. No where near as dangerous as Franklin or Brown)
6. Pavlich.

The used to be top-5 group
7. Richo
8. Lloyd
9. Gerhrig
10. Hall. Just can't kick anymore

The one-dimensional low-talent group
11. Lucas
12. Lynch
13. Mooney

:)
 
parrot said:
Top-5 I'd say. At this stage..

The top-shelf talent group...
1. Fev. Best FF in the AFL
2. Brown. Best CHF in the AFL
3. Gap

The almost top-shelf group
4. Franklin

The slightly over-rated group
5. Riewoldt (over-rated. No where near as dangerous as Franklin or Brown)
6. Pavlich.

The used to be top-5 group
7. Richo
8. Lloyd
9. Gerhrig
10. Hall. Just can't kick anymore

The one-dimensional low-talent group
11. Lucas
12. Lynch
13. Mooney

:)
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No point me going near your Fev rating....but I can't believe you feel Pav is over-rated. Obviously you haven't watched him much. And to have Lucus in a 'low talent' group, well you just lost the small amount of credibility you had.

Also you better hope that Hall can kick this season, because if he can't, then all your hopes about your prize new midfielder being back to his best may end in tears too.

But in the end, it matters for nought, because Tambling will be showing all of them his number 30 as he does his own thing in the forward 50:thumbsu:
 
polakthetiger said:
No point me going near your Fev rating....but I can't believe you feel Pav is over-rated. Obviously you haven't watched him much. And to have Lucus in a 'low talent' group, well you just lost the small amount of credibility you had.

Also you better hope that Hall can kick this season, because if he can't, then all your hopes about your prize new midfielder being back to his best may end in tears too.

But in the end, it matters for nought, because Tambling will be showing all of them his number 30 as he does his own thing in the forward 50:thumbsu:
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We hear about the Tamblings "..will be's.." this time every year. Needs to deliver. Yes I rate Lucas as a low talent. It's relative to the group of players listed of course. He is a valuable, and mostly effective player, but not in the elite talent group. He can kick bags of goals , but is extremely one-sided, takes goals off his team-mayes through selfish on-field acts, and can be completely shut out of a game because of his limited skill-set. Pav is an interesting one. I've never really classed him as a true KP forward. More of a tall utility type who pushes forward. He effectiveness is not so much the goals he kicks, but the work he does when he pushes further up the field and amazing workrate. He's not your classic KP forward type. :)
 
nut said:
Franklin> Tambling blah blah blah

Waste of a Draft Pick Blah Blah Blah ....

Massive drafting Mistake Blah Blah Blah......

Lets just remember....

This will be Tambling second Full Preseason.

Every season he has had Injuries, due mainly because of his small frame.

And he was always going to take a couple of seasons.

I for one still believe we should have taken him No.1..... and you can laugh all you want. If I had to pick between Franklin and Tambling right now, and chose a player that was going to help win us a premiership, I would still pick Tambling.

As our Midfield Improves together, Tambling will be the Most Dangerous out of anyone on our list. His Pace, Goals sense, crumbing off packs, Tackling and endurance will see him become a top 5 midfielder in the Comp.... big prediction I know.

Lets just sit back and watch this excitement machine rip up the AFL and at the end of the season no one will doubt why he was pick 4 and they'll wonder why he slipped so far..
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Red moronic comment; This is probably why Richmond will never rise up the table, despite having numerous opportunities via the draft to do so :thumbsdown:

Blue moronic comment; He has pace, the other stuff is only happening on your PS2 :p, not real life buddy. O sorry, probably should use the word Buddy should I?

O the pain your poor pathetic supporters must feel every time he does something spectacular, and then you go and watch Tambling :rolleyes:

Supposed you'd be used to it by now, with Pavlich though :D
 

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