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Time is right for AFL to go global

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clarkey

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FANTASTIC article by Sheeds in the Herald Sun today! :thumbsu:

Time is right for AFL to go global
Kevin Sheedy
Herald Sun
February 10, 2008

EVER wondered what it would be like to cheer for a Dane or a Scot while he's playing Australian football? During the tennis we were enamored with a boy from France who looked like Muhammad Ali.

He played against a guy from Serbia.

Although no Australians were involved, everyone enjoyed it.

That's what our competition could be like by 2050.

We should be planning and investing in the future. We should be employing 10 development officers and placing them in countries such as Japan, China, Canada, America and Denmark.

We have to inspire those people to take up our great game in what could be a fantastic bridge-building exercise.

If Australians want to see our game benefit, and one day contain international players, then we need to raise money.

Why not charge an extra dollar a ticket for every AFL game?

Raise $4 million from people coming through the turnstiles and it will give you a budget for development.

It would work because we want people to play our game. If we are serious about it there's no reason we wouldn't be prepared to pay.

In August we will host the International Cup.

Up to 20 countries are expected to send players to the competition, which will be played in Melbourne and Warrnambool.

They are coming from as far afield as New Zealand, Papua New Guinea, Samoa, the United States, Japan and South Africa.

There will be teams from Canada, China and Sweden and a combined Israel/Palestinian Territories outfit.

I would guess there are a million Australians living abroad, so we have a strong network of people who could become involved.

Recent trips by Collingwood, Carlton and Fremantle to South Africa have underlined the possibilities of international expansion.

In 1973 the Richmond Football Club put a package together for me to leave my job as a tradesperson. They wanted me to become a full-time development officer.

It was a big decision in my life. I'd only been out of the army a year. But you take a risk.

That's what investing in the future is all about.

In Perth there is an institution called Clontarf Aboriginal College, which has a football academy headed by Gerard Neesham.

Imagine if there was a similar operation in California - it would be a fantastic alternative.

If you could get a Clontarf setup and put an oval in it the size of the MCG, you could have the best step in the new direction of offshore Australian football.

You could have cricket, rugby and soccer played there. Call it Terrace Australis . . . and make it appealing to the locals. Aim to have the site set up and going by 2050.

Until you're prepared to develop the game, you won't get anything from an international focus.

Remember, at some stage Sri Lanka came into Test cricket.

I would love to see an AFL game played in India, with Shane Warne, Brett Lee and Dean Jones in the commentary box.

A game overseas like that is what we need in the next 10 years.

I turned up in football in 1967 more than 40 years have passed.

It is staggering how quickly they have gone.

We've got to think of the future and we've got to start now.

We can't waste another 20 years.

Do it and the game will win over the rest of the world.

Source: http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl/story/0,26576,23185843-19742,00.html
 
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Not a ****ing chance AFL will be anything but a game played and watched by Southern Australian's. Sheedy is living in dreamland it's another vein attempt by Afl supporters to feel important on a global stage. No one gives a toss about AFL outside of Australia and the quicker the AFL realise this an concentrate on keeping other sports at bay in Australia such as World football the safer the game will be.
 

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LOL! I'd like to see this. As far as Kevin Sheedy is concerned, football (soccer) doesn't exist, and everyone's just been walking around ignorant of AFL all this time.
 
Why are there so many anti-footy zealots on this board, like the above clowns and Brendothejerk? I'm involved in an overseas footy league but I confess I have no clue where the similar boards for RL and RU would be, and even if I did I wouldn't waste my time posting on them.

I have nothing against RL or RU, but I prefer footy so that's what I'm doing and good luck to those who try to promote the other codes. But you have to ask why those people also take such an interest in this board.
 
I have nothing against RL or RU, but I prefer footy so that's what I'm doing and good luck to those who try to promote the other codes. But you have to ask why those people also take such an interest in this board.

They think by basically ranting what amounts to "I hate AFL"
that somethings going to change .
They haven't got the grey matter to realise that by attachment
they make make their code more unattractive .

.
 
It's probably because this particular board seems to be inhabited by delusional people. AFL should just concentrate on Australia. Look at the NFL, they don't need other markets. Just dominate the one your in. That said, I prefer AFL to waste there money on other markets outside Australia, these good times for AFL won't last forever. Not with the quality of the product.
 
^^^^So the NFL having a game in London was just for shits and giggles eh? :rolleyes: There's no harm in trying to reach for an audience outside of Australia, will it ever overtake soccer worldwide? Of course not, but even if the AFL sets up even niche support overseas it's something.
 
London did have a professional team (London Monarchs) for quite some time until the NFL decided to fold that league. So it's not like there wasn't something there already. What have the AFL got over there? A lot of ex-pats and people they drag to the game for them to go WTF is this shit you brought me to?
 
Hmmm now why would the gridiron team have folded? Most people in England don't give a shit about gridiron either, it's all about niche marketing.
 
There is nothing delusional about it.

We know that noone knows about our sport.
We know that everyone knows soccer.

But who cares ?

In some countries, the media overseas is publishing their first ever articles on Australian Rules Football.

And as word about the game gets out, it will only grow - who really cares how fast ?

Perhaps you should take it up with the foreign journos and try to subject people to the same sort of deliberate AFL censorship that regularly goes on in Sydney and Brisbane. :D
 
Many of the less intelligent soccer and league supporters are obsessed with the idea of AFL going international, the Melbourne Victory forum always has at least one active thread about the subject, this is where The Frederick and Agga seem to have come from. Pretty sad really.
 
Many of the less intelligent soccer and league supporters are obsessed with the idea of AFL going international, the Melbourne Victory forum always has at least one active thread about the subject, this is where The Frederick and Agga seem to have come from. Pretty sad really.


We are not obsessed with AFL going international because it is barely national game why would there be any threat to football. Every year this same rubbish comes out about playing overseas and being an international sport it's not going to happen. If Sheedy wants to see a Scot, Englishmen, Brazilian or Costa Rican playing football at Telstra Dome he should go watch Melbourne Victory play cause thats the only football team in Victoria to have real international players in their squad.
 

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Clarkey.

WOW!

That was one of the more sensational, if not lunicy filled, rants I've ever read.

Here's some AFL Internationale news for you:

All taken from Wikipedia AFL Project

Cambodia
Australian rules football has been played in Cambodia by members of the expatriate Australian community in Phnom Penh since around 2000, when a club nickanmed the Cambodia Crocodiles was formed<SUP class=reference id=_ref-1>[2]</SUP>. The Crocodiles hosted other teams from around the Asian region for at least one tournament, but have since gone into recess.

China

While there were less than 70 senior participants and only 1 junior team in 2007, the AFL reported a total of 9,000 junior participants in Auskick styled programs with multiple sessions, through programs in Tianjin<SUP class=reference id=_ref-2>[3]</SUP> and Suzhou, where 18 schools have introduced the sport into their cirriculum.

1 team. WOW! Must've been a good finals series.

Hong Kong
Hong Kong is home to one of Asia's oldest Australian rules football clubs, the Hong Kong Dragons having played their first match in 1990. Based primarily around expat Australians, the club plays frequent matches against other expat-Australian clubs in the Asian region, including other teams from mainland China.

An aussie rules team based around ex-pats, playing expats. SURPRISE!

India

The West Australian Football League toured India in 1969, playing a series of exhibition matches between East Perth and Subiaco Football Clubs, which attracted large crowds and interest.<SUP class=reference id=_ref-7>[8]</SUP>
Australian rules football began in India with the creation of the Indian Amateur Australian Football Association in 2001. The organisation was based in Delhi, but disbanded in 2004.<SUP class=reference id=_ref-8>[9]</SUP>
The potential for the game has several times attracted interest from Australia, with the WAFL proposing an exhibition match for Mumbai.<SUP class=reference id=_ref-9>[10]</SUP>
The next appearance of organised Australian rules in India came with the visit of Brian Dixon to Calcutta in 2006 which resulted in the formation of starter clubs in the city and a platform for the development of an Indian team for the 2008 Australian Football International Cup.<SUP class=reference id=_ref-10>[11]</SUP><SUP class=reference id=_ref-11>[12]</SUP>
<SUP></SUP>
<SUP>AANOTHER ONE BITES THE DUST!</SUP>
<SUP></SUP>
Philippines
The Philippine Australian Football League was created in 2004.<SUP class=reference id=_ref-18>[19]</SUP> The league currently runs a two-team competition in Manila, and hosted the 2005 Asian Australian Football Championships. The representative side of the PAFL is known as the Philippine Eagles.

A TWO TEAM COMP!?!?! hahahah thats just ******ed.

Thats just what I've seen from 5 minutes of perusing the asia section.; God knows what lies in the other continents.

It appears every time an Australian soldier kicked a football on a foriegn shore it became an AFL playing nation.

Clarkey you are just a liar. PLain and simple. You can call me a troll if you want, but i'm not going to let you parade around spinning your crap when it is bringing down the rest of the human race.

I can't believe you wander the world telling people you're from Australia. Shame, shame, shame.
 
Clarkey.

WOW!

That was one of the more sensational, if not lunicy filled, rants I've ever read.

Here's some AFL Internationale news for you:

All taken from Wikipedia AFL Project

Cambodia
Australian rules football has been played in Cambodia by members of the expatriate Australian community in Phnom Penh since around 2000, when a club nickanmed the Cambodia Crocodiles was formed<sup class="reference" id="_ref-1">[2]</sup>. The Crocodiles hosted other teams from around the Asian region for at least one tournament, but have since gone into recess.

China

While there were less than 70 senior participants and only 1 junior team in 2007, the AFL reported a total of 9,000 junior participants in Auskick styled programs with multiple sessions, through programs in Tianjin<sup class="reference" id="_ref-2">[3]</sup> and Suzhou, where 18 schools have introduced the sport into their cirriculum.

1 team. WOW! Must've been a good finals series.

Hong Kong
Hong Kong is home to one of Asia's oldest Australian rules football clubs, the Hong Kong Dragons having played their first match in 1990. Based primarily around expat Australians, the club plays frequent matches against other expat-Australian clubs in the Asian region, including other teams from mainland China.

An aussie rules team based around ex-pats, playing expats. SURPRISE!

India

The West Australian Football League toured India in 1969, playing a series of exhibition matches between East Perth and Subiaco Football Clubs, which attracted large crowds and interest.<sup class="reference" id="_ref-7">[8]</sup>
Australian rules football began in India with the creation of the Indian Amateur Australian Football Association in 2001. The organisation was based in Delhi, but disbanded in 2004.<sup class="reference" id="_ref-8">[9]</sup>
The potential for the game has several times attracted interest from Australia, with the WAFL proposing an exhibition match for Mumbai.<sup class="reference" id="_ref-9">[10]</sup>
The next appearance of organised Australian rules in India came with the visit of Brian Dixon to Calcutta in 2006 which resulted in the formation of starter clubs in the city and a platform for the development of an Indian team for the 2008 Australian Football International Cup.<sup class="reference" id="_ref-10">[11]</sup><sup class="reference" id="_ref-11">[12]</sup>
<sup></sup>
<sup>AANOTHER ONE BITES THE DUST!</sup>
<sup></sup>
Philippines
The Philippine Australian Football League was created in 2004.<sup class="reference" id="_ref-18">[19]</sup> The league currently runs a two-team competition in Manila, and hosted the 2005 Asian Australian Football Championships. The representative side of the PAFL is known as the Philippine Eagles.

A TWO TEAM COMP!?!?! hahahah thats just ******ed.

Thats just what I've seen from 5 minutes of perusing the asia section.; God knows what lies in the other continents.

It appears every time an Australian soldier kicked a football on a foriegn shore it became an AFL playing nation.

Clarkey you are just a liar. PLain and simple. You can call me a troll if you want, but i'm not going to let you parade around spinning your crap when it is bringing down the rest of the human race.

I can't believe you wander the world telling people you're from Australia. Shame, shame, shame.

Wikedpedia; well it must be gospel. It's not like their information is ever wrong.

Seems to me there is a lot of people who support other codes, far too willing to take shots at Aussie Rules. No doubt Aussie Rules supporters can be found slagging off these other codes as well.

I am an Aussie Rules senior Coach. Love the game and have since my earliest memory.
My mothers side were all poms. So I got lots of 'Football' stuff sent to me for xmas. I have been a massive fan of West Ham since Trevor Brooking strode around the East End of London. I cry when they lose and wake the neighbourhood at 3am when they score.
I went to school in Albury and learnt to love Rugby League. Even played a few games down Corowa way. Used to follow the Eels. Now I get to as many Storm games as I can.
I also became a Union convert long before some pom with a killer boot broke our hearts. Talk about god given talent; those Eller's were something else.
I wish the so called supporters of there code would channel their energies into promoting their game.
This is the crime you accuse Clarkey of.
If you bother to properly research the fledgling Aussie Rules competitions around the world you will find that they pretty much all start up the same way.
A few expats getting together to have a kick in a park.
They then evolve into one team with the hope of playing other international teams in the future or hosting a touring team from Australia (like the Convicts).
Many of these teams peater out as enthusiastic people move on in their employment. A few have taken the next step. Create a second team to play against locally.
Hard work and a lot of understanding of local cultures can then lead to involving locals into the game. Japan, for instance, has a compulsory involvement of it's pupils in a sport. This how they started to get University teams made up exclusively of local players.

If the league then grows to a reasonable size, like in England, you will find rules put in place to ensure no team can play with out a minimum number of locals in their team.

Don't make a gig out of yourself by belittling someone elses hard work. And especially don't use poorly researched data to call someone else a liar.

I will continue to assist the development of Aussie Rules Internationlly at every chance I get. I, like most who work towards developing the game outside Australia, will do this with no financial reward or assistance. But I will never feel the need to denigrate another sport to advance Australian Rules Football.

It's a big world and there is space for all to play.
 
Wikedpedia; well it must be gospel. It's not like their information is ever wrong.

Don't be so quick to have a stab at the International Aussie Rules Wiki pages mate, as they are maintained by some of the very same loons that post on this board.
 
Wikedpedia; well it must be gospel. It's not like their information is ever wrong.

Seems to me there is a lot of people who support other codes, far too willing to take shots at Aussie Rules. No doubt Aussie Rules supporters can be found slagging off these other codes as well.

I am an Aussie Rules senior Coach. Love the game and have since my earliest memory.
My mothers side were all poms. So I got lots of 'Football' stuff sent to me for xmas. I have been a massive fan of West Ham since Trevor Brooking strode around the East End of London. I cry when they lose and wake the neighbourhood at 3am when they score.
I went to school in Albury and learnt to love Rugby League. Even played a few games down Corowa way. Used to follow the Eels. Now I get to as many Storm games as I can.
I also became a Union convert long before some pom with a killer boot broke our hearts. Talk about god given talent; those Eller's were something else.
I wish the so called supporters of there code would channel their energies into promoting their game.
This is the crime you accuse Clarkey of.
If you bother to properly research the fledgling Aussie Rules competitions around the world you will find that they pretty much all start up the same way.
A few expats getting together to have a kick in a park.
They then evolve into one team with the hope of playing other international teams in the future or hosting a touring team from Australia (like the Convicts).
Many of these teams peater out as enthusiastic people move on in their employment. A few have taken the next step. Create a second team to play against locally.
Hard work and a lot of understanding of local cultures can then lead to involving locals into the game. Japan, for instance, has a compulsory involvement of it's pupils in a sport. This how they started to get University teams made up exclusively of local players.

If the league then grows to a reasonable size, like in England, you will find rules put in place to ensure no team can play with out a minimum number of locals in their team.

Don't make a gig out of yourself by belittling someone elses hard work. And especially don't use poorly researched data to call someone else a liar.

I will continue to assist the development of Aussie Rules Internationlly at every chance I get. I, like most who work towards developing the game outside Australia, will do this with no financial reward or assistance. But I will never feel the need to denigrate another sport to advance Australian Rules Football.

It's a big world and there is space for all to play.

Well hats off to your well rounded life...

Mate the Wikipedia AFL project is run by guys from this forum, people who are supposed to be on the button.

Clarkey is a liar. Time and time again he has been caught out sprouting untruths. HIs comment "AFL has far more of an international future than Rugby League" is testimony to this.

Mate you're right, all sports have room to grow and will. What I'm contesting is the delusional beliefs of people that their game is bigger than it is.

As I've said before, the AFL should worry about becoming number1 in NSW and QLD before they worry about China, Japan, Scotland, Qatar etc
 
Clarkey is a liar. Time and time again he has been caught out sprouting untruths. HIs comment "AFL has far more of an international future than Rugby League" is testimony to this.

Its a bit dumb to accuse someone of lying about the future. Anything could happen. It is called speculation.

Remember that people were burned at the stake for calling the world round. Were they lying ? I don't think so.

As I've said before, the AFL should worry about becoming number1 in NSW and QLD before they worry about China, Japan, Scotland, Qatar etc

Who cares aout NSW ? When at least China, Japan, Scotland and Qatar are not full of complete tossers like you.
 
Its a bit dumb to accuse someone of lying about the future. Anything could happen. It is called speculation.

Remember that people were burned at the stake for calling the world round. Were they lying ? I don't think so.



Who cares aout NSW ? When at least China, Japan, Scotland and Qatar are not full of complete tossers like you.

No fishy, international DOES not have AN international future, much less a bigger one than league so therefore its a lie. :)

Who cares about QLD and NSW??? Captain Demetriou does. to the tune of $100 million.

Do China, Japan, Scotland and Qatar care about AFL? NO. 99 percent of them have never even heard of it.
 

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