Speculation Tom Barrass [UFA 2027]

[eaglevision]

The top price for a KPD was pick 6 for May who was 26 at the time. Brian Lake at 30 years old was pick 21 + 43 with 27 coming back which was a steal.

He's not a top 5 league KPD, he's not even the best KPD in your team. A single top 10 1st rounder for a 28/29 year old would be a huge win for WC and they should definitely do the trade.

May was also out of contract and was going to leave regardless. Barrass is contracted for another 3 years. If that’s your assessment regarding his ability that’s fine but I can assure you that’s not how he’s viewed at WCE and will be valued as such.

 

[Purple Suit]

May was also out of contract and was going to leave regardless. Barrass is contracted for another 3 years. If that’s your assessment regarding his ability that’s fine but I can assure you that’s not how he’s viewed at WCE and will be valued as such.

May was wanted by a top 4 Melbourne team so they needed to pay full rate to get him. No leverage to get him there so the contract status was not relevant to that deal.

WC have a contract but they are not contending, are in desperate need of talent and Barrass won't be there for your next tilt. I suspect WC will be chasing overs but not crazy overs.

 

[TylerDurden]

Definitely more the pick rather than the body I would’ve thought. He’s been very open about his body, don’t think you do that without being confident it will stand up.

Hawks 1st (as long as they don’t make finals) + Future 2nd and DGB (probably getting delisted anyway or close to) would be the minimum.

Definitely deserves a pay rise but Eagles need that pick imo. Like the Roos needed to keep McKay last year but pick 3 was too good not to let him go.

I believe it’s the Eagles and Dons who are the only ones who don’t give be the uptick in salary to reflect the salary cap going up. Be interesting to see if the new team stay with that.

Great fit for the Hawks and absolute star player.

That would get it done.
We'd offer significantly more coin than you would, and probably the years - should he pass the medical.

 

[eaglevision]

May was wanted by a top 4 Melbourne team so they needed to pay full rate to get him. No leverage to get him there so the contract status was not relevant to that deal.

WC have a contract but they are not contending, are in desperate need of talent and Barrass won't be there for your next tilt. I suspect WC will be chasing overs but not crazy overs.

This post is essentially saying the fact that he’s contracted for 3 years is irrelevant which is ridiculous.

The simple fact is if WCE gain more than they lose by trading Barrass they will pull the trigger assuming he wants to leave. If they don’t, he won’t be traded. It’s up to WCE to nominate what that threshold is but it won’t be a single mid 1R selection in the teens.

 

[Elite Pete]

You're like a dog with a bone.

Despite TB continually saying he wants to stay an Eagles, you just seem to ignore it because it doesn't fit your narrative.

 

[Tugga27]

You answered this post 2 weeks ago.

Your point is?

 

[Ash1337]

This post is essentially saying the fact that he’s contracted for 3 years is irrelevant which is ridiculous.

The simple fact is if WCE gain more than they lose by trading Barrass they will pull the trigger assuming he wants to leave. If they don’t, he won’t be traded. It’s up to WCE to nominate what that threshold is but it won’t be a single mid 1R selection in the teens.

Yes if it comes to a trade it'll be upto the clubs to come to the party but the idea of 2 top 10 firsts this year isn't going to be realistic for a trade. The club will have to weigh up what they can get and consider if the trade is worth it or to just not do the trade. They'll be hoping Barrass nominates Hawks considering dogs don't yet have a 1st this year.

 

[triple treat]

That would get it done.
We'd offer significantly more coin than you would, and probably the years - should he pass the medical.

I hope we walk if that’s the price, he’d be nice to have but not a necessity.
let him stay at WC and retire there.

 

[Elite Pete]

I hope we walk if that’s the price, he’d be nice to have but not a necessity.
let him stay at WC and retire there.

He won’t though if he elects to leave because a team will pay that minimum. See how the rest of the season plays out

 

[Elite Pete]

I laughed at the bit where the article gives the name and suburb of the fish & chip shop where Barrass met with Hickmott haha

Smells like that last attempt from his manager to get the Eagles to extend. Not sure Morris even wrote any of it, straight from his Managers email and just put his name on it.

 

[mattwa]

Barrass would be the best KPd you have had since Lake left to hawks and be in top 6 players for you as soon as he arrives severely underrating his ability

Not doubting he's a good player but he's nearly 30 and hes a knock to the back away from retiring. Given the ask from the Eagles to get him I'd prefer to hold onto our picks and back in Buss/Lobb to hold down chb. They aren't better players than Barrass but the value doesn't stack up given age/injury

 

[eaglevision]

Not doubting he's a good player but he's nearly 30 and hes a knock to the back away from retiring. Given the ask from the Eagles to get him I'd prefer to hold onto our picks and back in Buss/Lobb to hold down chb. They aren't better players than Barrass but the value doesn't stack up given age/injury

This is absolute bullshit. No problem if you want to discuss perceived trade value but don’t make dramatic statements that are totally false. Particularly when it pertains to medical issues which you clearly have no idea about.

 

[mattwa]

This is absolute bullshit. No problem if you want to discuss perceived trade value but don’t make dramatic statements that are totally false.

So he doesn't have severe back issues?

 

[eaglevision]

So he doesn't have severe back issues?

Correct. He had fractures that have completely healed and are stable. They were in the part of the spine least involved in movement. He’s at no greater risk than any other player on the park and it will not affect his footy going forward. His life after football is a different story and I’m talking well past retirement.

 

[TiAn_]

Smells like that last attempt from his manager to get the Eagles to extend. Not sure Morris even wrote any of it, straight from his Managers email and just put his name on it.

Yeah, seems they’ve taken the nuclear option to smoke the Eagles out. If there’s still no movement from them after this, then it’s time for them to hash it out properly with another club.

 

[stallon]

Yes if it comes to a trade it'll be upto the clubs to come to the party but the idea of 2 top 10 firsts this year isn't going to be realistic for a trade. The club will have to weigh up what they can get and consider if the trade is worth it or to just not do the trade. They'll be hoping Barrass nominates Hawks considering dogs don't yet have a 1st this year.

Dogs will have probably 2 first rounders this year though?

Smith is gone and English is probably leaning slightly toward leaving from the sound of things.

If He nominates the Dogs then they can get a reasonable deal done

 

[Ash1337]

Dogs will have probably 2 first rounders this year though?

Smith is gone and English is probably leaning slightly toward leaving from the sound of things.

If He nominates the Dogs then they can get a reasonable deal done

Smith is probably gone but cats first round pick isn't going be exciting for the eagles. English is holding out for a 6th year and likely will get it. Dogs can force a trade if they if they want if they think the compo is too low and it'll likely mean a stalemate. Is English worth more than Barrass? Most likely.

 

[stallon]

Smith is probably gone but cats first round pick isn't going be exciting for the eagles.

i didnt say that pick would be the entirety of the trade, you have players and other picks

English is holding out for a 6th year and likely will get it. Dogs can force a trade if they if they want if they think the compo is too low and it'll likely mean a stalemate.

The eagles wont trade for English, hes only worth it if hes free. Would not pay a 2nd rounder for him even

Is English worth more than Barrass? Most likely.

Lol I dont think he is, English overrated after his AA last year. Hes fallen down the ruckman rankings quite a bit this year.
Barrass is comfortably worth more

 

[Rich01]

Yeah, seems they’ve taken the nuclear option to smoke the Eagles out. If there’s still no movement from them after this, then it’s time for them to hash it out properly with another club.

Why would the eagles bite? They have a 29 year old with a history of back issues signed up for three more seasons. There’s no need to extend him out. Let the contract play.

For a bloke averaging only 15 games a season he hasn’t exactly been the beacon of health you’d hope from him in his twilight years.

 

[stallon]

Why would the eagles bite? They have a 29 year old with a history of back issues signed up for three more seasons. There’s no need to extend him out. Let the contract play.

For a bloke averaging only 15 games a season he hasn’t exactly been the beacon of health you’d hope from him in his twilight years.

Assuming he plays out the year, he will be averaging nearly 18 games per year since he became a regular in the team
if you take out the injury last year which should have 0 further impact on his injury risk and his suspension, hes averaging close to 20 games per year over the last 5.

You cant count the first 3 years on a list lmao how many KPDs play 60 games in their first 3 years on a list?

 

[Rich01]

Assuming he plays out the year, he will be averaging nearly 18 games per year since he became a regular in the team
if you take out the injury last year which should have 0 further impact on his injury risk and his suspension, hes averaging close to 20 games per year over the last 5.

You cant count the first 3 years on a list lmao how many KPDs play 60 games in their first 3 years on a list?

Haha yes, all those caveats and asterisks.
Whatever way you choose to spin it.

Sounds like it’s a no brainer for West Coast to add two more years to the blokes contract then eh?

 

[Libbaaaa]

Haha yes, all those caveats and asterisks.
Whatever way you choose to spin it.

Sounds like it’s a no brainer for West Coast to add two more years to the blokes contract then eh?

They’ll more likely renegotiate the existing deal to be more cash and maybe add on a year and do the whole Eagle for life media release, despite shopping him around.

 

[HeHateMe]

Seems like he would cost too much draft capital for the hawks. Good player but we shouldn't move away from what's been working and that's hitting the draft and trading for lowered profile players that complement the group.

Won't get it done but I'd only think it's worth it for us if we make finals and trade a pick in the teens. if we have a top 10 pick we need to use it in this draft.

 

[stallon]

Haha yes, all those caveats and asterisks.
Whatever way you choose to spin it.

Sounds like it’s a no brainer for West Coast to add two more years to the blokes contract then eh?

You literally counted his first 3 years on a list when he played WAFL as some way to justify calling him injury prone

 

[eaglevision]

You literally counted his first 3 years on a list when he played WAFL as some way to justify calling him injury prone

Yep. Posted this on another board but 2020 was the Covid year so his 18 games means he played every single game in the season. Given he only missed significant games last year after his season was ended after being tunnelled by Jack Reiwoldt to call him injury prone is just ignorant.