Confirmed Tom Barrass & 2025 F4 (WCE) traded to Hawthorn for 2025 F1, F2 & F3 (all Haw)

[Books]

how about you take out your bias. In what world is an A-grader who plays a position that generally fetches a premium not worth 2 1st rounders. Come on man

Brian Lake was as good or better than Barrass. Hawthorn gave up picks 19 and 41 but also got pick 27 back.
Based on that, 13 and 30 for Barrass and 23 would be a good deal for West Coast.

 

[stallon]

Brian Lake was as good or better than Barrass. Hawthorn gave up picks 19 and 41 but also got pick 27 back.
Based on that, 13 and 30 for Barrass and 23 would be a good deal for West Coast.

Lake was 31 before he played a game for the Hawks, Barrass will be 29. Thats not insignificant
Then you consider that KPDs have a much higher value in recent years due to certain other KPDs getting overpaid.

13+f1 for wce F2 is a very fair trade. Most West coast fans consider it slight unders, Hawks fans think its overs. A few fans from each side think its reasonable.

 

[kade]

Lake was 31 before he played a game for the Hawks, Barrass will be 29. Thats not insignificant
Then you consider that KPDs have a much higher value in recent years due to certain other KPDs getting overpaid.

13+f1 for wce F2 is a very fair trade. Most West coast fans consider it slight unders, Hawks fans think its overs. A few fans from each side think its reasonable.

It’s a good trade for the eagles but a shocking one for the hawks. It should be the same value as the Titch to Collingwood trade

 

[stallon]

It’s a good trade for the eagles but a shocking one for the hawks. It should be the same value as the Titch to Collingwood trade

The hawks literally pushed Titch out the door. They didnt want him in the 22 even, he had lost most of his midfield role in 2022.
Not even close to the same as Barrass

 

[HairyO]

Brian Lake was as good or better than Barrass. Hawthorn gave up picks 19 and 41 but also got pick 27 back.
Based on that, 13 and 30 for Barrass and 23 would be a good deal for West Coast.

Lake also took a pay cut to come to Hawthorn.

 

[Noel Gallagher]

WCE Eagles fans / media fanboys can squawk and postulate as much as they want, fact is they aint getting 2 x first rounders for Barass. We need that future first for a long term target. Eagles will be compensated fairly, not generously. Our days of being bent over in trades a la Jaeger Omeara and Chad Wingard

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are over. Those two trades alone set us back years. New regime, new philosophies have got us to where we are today.

 

[Dewwwww]

Looking forward to the melts on here when this trade goes through for an actual fair price.

Some people on here are very delusional

 

[ArdentEagle]

Looking forward to the melts on here when this trade goes through for an actual fair price.

Some people on here are very delusional

What do you think is a fair price dewy??

 

[bzparkes]

I see Hawthorn supporters have gone all the way backwards from the 'Bargaining' stage to the 'Denial' stage

 

[Dewwwww]

What do you think is a fair price dewy??

Pick 13 will be the basis of the deal and most likely a future 2nd or player

A lot of strong relationships between the two clubs with good trading history so I think the deal will get done pretty quickly.

Clubs generally help the player out when part of the move is due to personal reasons which it is for Tom

 

[THE_GUN]

Hes hardly going to go around recording every single conversation he has. Hes generally around the mark, and the 2 1sts for barrass and a 2nd is a reasonable deal if you take out any bias.
Its not like he suggested the hawks were willing to pay 2 firsts for Barrass alone

Yes he usually is and i agree with you

Do you also think his on the mark with Baker for #13 also ?

 

[ArdentEagle]

Pick 13 will be the basis of the deal and most likely a future 2nd or player

A lot of strong relationships between the two clubs with good trading history so I think the deal will get done pretty quickly.

Clubs generally help the player out when part of the move is due to personal reasons which it is for Tom

Fair enough mate. Personally, I really don't want F2 and we really need to either buy into this draft of bring in a player of quality.


What player/s are you thinking ?

 

[THE_GUN]

Lake was 31 before he played a game for the Hawks, Barrass will be 29. Thats not insignificant
Then you consider that KPDs have a much higher value in recent years due to certain other KPDs getting overpaid.

13+f1 for wce F2 is a very fair trade. Most West coast fans consider it slight unders, Hawks fans think its overs. A few fans from each side think its reasonable.

#13 + #30 is extremely fair

But he i hope you guys clean up

 

[stallon]

Yes he usually is and i agree with you

Do you also think his on the mark with Baker for #13 also ?

He didnt say we had offered 13, he said he suspects we will offer it because apparently Freo had pick 10 on the table.

 

[THE_GUN]

He didnt say we had offered 13, he said he suspects we will offer it because apparently Freo had pick 10 on the table.

Yes so do you think he is right on what he Suspects

 

[stallon]

Yes so do you think he is right on what he Suspects

I have no idea. I sincerely hope what he suggested isnt even remotely close.
Still have no idea if Baker wants to come, or if the Eagles actually want Baker. New coach could have some differnet suggestions of how they want to set up the team and turn the club off Baker.

 

[THE_GUN]

I have no idea. I sincerely hope what he suggested isnt even remotely close.
Still have no idea if Baker wants to come, or if the Eagles actually want Baker. New coach could have some differnet suggestions of how they want to set up the team and turn the club off Baker.

But you agreed with him on the Barrass thing ?
You either think he knows his stuff or dont trust him

If you want to use cal to support your opinion then that goes both ways

* Congratulations on Mini McQualter by the way , apparently, he will be announced

 

[stallon]

But you agreed with him on the Barrass thing ?
You either think he knows his stuff or dont trust him

If you want to use cal to support your opinion then that goes both ways

* Congratulations on Mini McQualter by the way , apparently, he will be announced

We know Barrass and the Hawks are both very interested.

We dont know if Baker and the Eagles are interested.

 

[THE_GUN]

We know Barrass and the Hawks are both very interested.

We dont know if Baker and the Eagles are interested.

REally ? Your club has a contract offer for him

But anyway hope the Barrass deal goes through smoothly and it does mean alot to the eagles ability to draft and the picks would have already been allocated

 

[Dewwwww]

Fair enough mate. Personally, I really don't want F2 and we really need to either buy into this draft of bring in a player of quality.


What player/s are you thinking ?

I’m sure a 3rd club could end up getting involved depending on the eagles demands so if you want a 2nd rounder this year I’m sure it could be arranged.

 

[stallon]

REally ? Your club has a contract offer for him

But anyway hope the Barrass deal goes through smoothly and it does mean alot to the eagles ability to draft and the picks would have already been allocated

The fact there has been no decision from Baker means either Baker isnt sold yet or the club isnt sold yet. We dont know which

 

[Barrybran]

I’m sure a 3rd club could end up getting involved depending on the eagles demands so if you want a 2nd rounder this year I’m sure it could be arranged.

If a third club were to get involved it would most likely be Richmond so you guys get a 2024 second rounder rather than a 2025 second rounder from us

 

[Rich01]

If a third club were to get involved it would most likely be Richmond so you guys get a 2024 second rounder rather than a 2025 second rounder from us

The only way Richmond get involved is by exchanging Baker for Hawthorns first rounder this year. And that can be done after the original trade is made.

 

[eaglespremiers]

The only way Richmond get involved is by exchanging Baker for Hawthorns first rounder this year. And that can be done after the original trade is made.

Hopefully West Coast list management steer well clear of on-trading pick 13. This needs to be turned into a draftee as an absolute priority for West Coast. Anything else is simply illogical given where we're at in our rebuild.

 

[Barrybran]

The only way Richmond get involved is by exchanging Baker for Hawthorns first rounder this year. And that can be done after the original trade is made.

Hopefully West Coast list management steer well clear of on-trading pick 13. This needs to be turned into a draftee as an absolute priority for West Coast. Anything else is simply illogical given where we're at in our rebuild.

Any trade involving Baker for a Hawthorn pick will be for Hawthorn's F1, not 13, regardless of how that trade is done. Hawthorn would likely prefer a 2024 second rounder than a 2025 second rounder. Bringing Richmond into the Barrass trade works for all parties.