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Confirmed Tom Barrass & 2025 F4 (WCE) traded to Hawthorn for 2025 F1, F2 & F3 (all Haw)
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Collingwood's 2nd rounder is the deal with the 1st rounder. Potentially get a 3rd rounder back as part of it. We are not trading off future 1st round picks when we have plans for other potential suitors next year. It's a fair deal for both parties.
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Depends how Hawthorn rate the draft. They could very well see a guy at pick 30 that theyd rate as a top 10 player sliding down to them for example and believe that this is the path to go down in regards to 2 1st rounders instead of 1....
If they went the 2 1st rounders route it would also be because Hawks really want a 2nd rounder still
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We would get something back in return if there was any chance of 2 first rounders being involved that's correct but that's not what the deal will entail. Were still quite a young list and we're not at that stage of trading out of drafts just yet. Club believes the window has opened early and is trying to cash in early but it's still about the long game and sustained success. Going to the draft is still part of that plan.
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We have nothing to give back in this draft besides upgrading your Collingwood pick to our pick 23...
If you wanted to stay in this draft itd be a future pick is all
I can see a deal of
2 firsts + 30 for Barass, 23 and future 3rd
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If you want a third rounder back your second rounder becomes a first
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exactly, Have consistently maintained that Barass is worth a pick around 15-18, Eagles may think 15, Hawks 18, end up around 16-17.
Maybe the best would be
R1+30+F2 for Barass+23
Angry that we have to add to R1 but offset by the pick upgrade which could land one of the talent who may slide.
I thought Hawthorn was tanking?
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Hawks 2024 1st and 2025 1st for Barrass and Eagles 2024 2nd… job done 
Hang on a minute, but there's people in the media/and this forum that Geelongs first is enough for Bailey? Who's younger and less of an injury risk...Hawks 2024 1st and 2025 1st for Barrass and Eagles 2024 2nd… job done
Nope. Your first is also getting later by the week especially as I very much expect you to account for Kens mob.
He absolutely is worth 2 firsts if the picks fall back to 16-18 areas.
Smith is OOC, and is coming off a year off.Hang on a minute, but there's people in the media/and this forum that Geelongs first is enough for Bailey? Who's younger and less of an injury risk...
Barrass has been playing as an a grader for years now, and is a better player.
Theyre worth similar but that value is pick 10 + change areas
Worth is subjective, Eagles are rebuilding and the dogs are challenging. So you would argue WC would value picks higher than having a player whose getting older on their list, than say the Bulldogs would would value keeping Bailey over getting one pick for him? Yes his OOC but Geelong don't have the first pick in PSD so Bulldogs have leverage to ask for more than one first.
Eagles don't have much leverage apart from TB contract which they would want to be released from if they can get a reasonable pick for. And so hence Hawthorn have leverage to underpay.
A club with an uncontracted player has more leverage than a club with a contracted player
Learn something new every day I guess
Learn something new every day I guess
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And Daniel Rioli is worth more than pick 6 apparentlyHang on a minute, but there's people in the media/and this forum that Geelongs first is enough for Bailey? Who's younger and less of an injury risk...
I was merely stating that TB is no way worth two first, if Bailey is worth one. Especially when you take into consideration their age and injury concerns.
Fair deal is a our first and 2nd for TB and Eagles 3rd.
Bailey and TB are worth a similar value. Anybody saying Bailey is worth pick 20ish is having a laugh.
If that logic held up with OOC players then Liam Baker would be worth a 3rd round pick which I dont see the media bringing up.
Take out that 3rd going back and you have a decent proposal for TB, unless you guys keep winning. We aren't just taking scraps in the late teens for an A grader KPD
i think a lot here forgetting about west coast are not pushing barrass out on the fact they have to pay the cap floor which is the single worst thing the players assoication have come up with.
west coast may genuinely need to keep barrass, who else are they paying? mcgoven, kelly, yeo, allen, who else deserve the coin? darling off to north, gaff is done, reid not extending yet.
west coast may genuinely need to keep barrass, who else are they paying? mcgoven, kelly, yeo, allen, who else deserve the coin? darling off to north, gaff is done, reid not extending yet.
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they can also offer to pay some or all of his salary for a better deal. if they're in a draftee acquisition phase and struggling for the cap floor it makes a lot of sense if they can squeeze a better pick out of it somewhere
Also weird fun and games can be had with going under the floor and then banking that to be able to go over in another year. The type of thing that would make sense for west coast if for example they planned to back up a dumptruck of cash to someone like Warner once he hits free agency and put his salary out of reach of SYdney
Also weird fun and games can be had with going under the floor and then banking that to be able to go over in another year. The type of thing that would make sense for west coast if for example they planned to back up a dumptruck of cash to someone like Warner once he hits free agency and put his salary out of reach of SYdney
Yeah that's some wack ass Poos and Wees logic lol
There is no way in hell Doggies have a better bargaining position for Smith as an OOC player who hasn't played in 12 months and basically wants the place to burn down (his instagram posts have just been...yeah not good lol) over Eagles with Barrass who by and large is a professional.
Barrass is also:
1. A Key Position Defender (key positions are always more valuable)
2. Very Good (good long track record of consistent footy)
3. Contracted (this is a big one)
4. Being offered a 5 Year deal on very good money (Phil Davis said it yesterday on SEN...the most expensive thing to do is drag a player out of another club)
That criteria puts him in the two decent first rounders range.
Smith is more in the 1 decent first rounder and change range.
The team with a contracted player will always have more bargaining power than an uncontracted one.
Never ever heard it differently.
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WCe arent leaping up the table and Barrass will be worth far less next year.
If the requirement is ridiculous the deal simply wont happen.
It will be our 1st and something else nice but not crazy. Like Collingwood's sweetener for Ginnivan.
As for Smith, that comes down to whether the Dogs are ok with being pushed around by the Cats. And also belongs in that other thread.
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