Confirmed Tom Barrass & 2025 F4 (WCE) traded to Hawthorn for 2025 F1, F2 & F3 (all Haw)

[THE_GUN]

Hawks wouldn't trade James Sicily for pick #14, he's a year older than Tom too.

Very simplistic way to put it without considering the backround

If Sicily and the hawks were in dispute about the salary and sicily demanded to be traded out and already walked out
YES they would trade him for #13

 

[ROYAL EAGLE]

Can either of them hit a target 45m away with two opposition players a metre either side? The answer is no, no they can not.

You do not have a James Sicily on your list.

That's exactly what McGovern did in our grand final win that lead to the Sheed goal

 

[amazingjoshy]

Can either of them hit a target 45m away with two opposition players a metre either side? The answer is no, no they can not.

You do not have a James Sicily on your list.

 

[amazingjoshy]

Can either of them hit a target 45m away with two opposition players a metre either side? The answer is no, no they can not.

You do not have a James Sicily on your list.

Gov is like a James Sicily that kicks the goal when having a shot to win his team the game instead of choking

 

[I got the outside word]

That's exactly what McGovern did in our grand final win that lead to the Sheed goal

Sorry, McGovern done it that one time, I’ll stand corrected I suppose.

 

[Barrybran]

the value difference between them isnt as big as you seem to think it is. You are blinded by the fact its called a first rounder.
Forget the rounds, use pick numbers it might help you gauge value better.

13 + 13 for Barrass + 20 for those playing at home

 

[stallon]

Can either of them hit a target 45m away with two opposition players a metre either side? The answer is no, no they can not.

You do not have a James Sicily on your list.

Govs kick is actually elite, hes not as good as Sicily at kicking but his kick is right up there still.

 

[Barrybran]

Can either of them hit a target 45m away with two opposition players a metre either side? The answer is no, no they can not.

You do not have a James Sicily on your list.

Haven't seen them kick either apparently.

You underestimate what you're signing up for. Barrass reads the game very well and is an excellent mark and kick. The only real knock on him is that he isn't as mobile as Sicily, which is exactly why the Hawks are after him. Barrass will be the stay at home defender while Sicily goes back to being a floating defender where he will be far more dangerous.

 

[I got the outside word]

Gov is like a James Sicily that kicks the goal when having a shot to win his team the game instead of choking

Only kicked a match winner with a dislocated shoulder and a rolled ankle earlier in the year.

 

[I got the outside word]

Haven't seen them kick either apparently.

You underestimate what you're signing up for. Barrass reads the game very well and is an excellent mark and kick. The only real knock on him is that he isn't as mobile as Sicily, which is exactly why the Hawks are after him. Barrass will be the stay at home defender while Sicily goes back to being a floating defender where he will be far more dangerous.

I know what Barrass can bring, I also know his back could be one big hit away from retirement and he is 29. Barrass and Battle mean Sicily will hardly have a man and Weddle moves up the ground which for anyone that hasn’t followed this season is bloody scary. IF the trade is two firsts (which I doubt) the only way we can judge it is with hindsight, and we don’t have that yet.

Now, as for the comparison someone brought up and what we would trade Sicily for, it’s irrelevant. You do not have a Sicily on your list.

Edited the bolded*

 

[stallon]

I know what Barrass can bring, I also know his back is one big hit away from retirement

I didnt need to read any further than this to know youre full of it

Every single player is 1 big hit in the back away from retirement. Barrass is no more vulnerable than anybody else

 

[I got the outside word]

I didnt need to read any further than this to know youre full of it

Every single player is 1 big hit in the back away from retirement. Barrass is no more vulnerable than anybody else

Sorry, I edited that part because you are right, I don’t actually know for sure.

 

[HairyO]

I didnt need to read any further than this to know youre full of it

Every single player is 1 big hit in the back away from retirement. Barrass is no more vulnerable than anybody else

In 10 seasons he has never managed to play 20 games. Why is that ?

 

[stallon]

In 10 seasons he has never managed to play 20 games. Why is that ?

What does that have to do with his back?

 

[Barrybran]

I know what Barrass can bring, I also know his back could be one big hit away from retirement and he is 29. Barrass and Battle mean Sicily will hardly have a man and Weddle moves up the ground which for anyone that hasn’t followed this season is bloody scary. IF the trade is two firsts (which I doubt) the only way we can judge it is with hindsight, and we don’t have that yet.

Now, as for the comparison someone brought up and what we would trade Sicily for, it’s irrelevant. You do not have a Sicily on your list.

Edited the bolded*

It's only irrelevant because you don't want to answer the question.

At the end of the day, Hawthorn are going to get an AA quality defender and will be a scary good team next year. We're trying to rebuild our list. Our list management team would be negligent in not asking for two firsts. I put Hawthorn's first next year at 13 which is generous. You should finish top four with Barrass and Battle.

 

[I got the outside word]

It's only irrelevant because you don't want to answer the question.

At the end of the day, Hawthorn are going to get an AA quality defender and will be a scary good team next year. We're trying to rebuild our list. Our list management team would be negligent in not asking for two firsts. I put Hawthorn's first next year at 13 which is generous. You should finish top four with Barrass and Battle.

It is irrelevant because as I have said, you don’t have a Sicily on your list.

 

[Shueygod]

Sorry, McGovern done it that one time, I’ll stand corrected I suppose.

McGovern is an elite kick, just showing off your ignorance here.

 

[HairyO]

What does that have to do with his back?

He seems to be injured a lot. I dont recall there being a lot of suspensions. Do you know what all of his injuries have been?

Others are claiming its his back. You are saying it isnt. So, what is it?

 

[Hawks_Footy]

the value difference between them isnt as big as you seem to think it is. You are blinded by the fact its called a first rounder.
Forget the rounds, use pick numbers it might help you gauge value better.

You're the one blinded here.. pick 13&30 is worth more on points value than 13&13 with 23 coming back..

 

[Farang83150]

Can either of them hit a target 45m away with two opposition players a metre either side? The answer is no, no they can not.

You do not have a James Sicily on your list.

Look at you knowing precisely nothing about Barrass or McGovern but trying to come across as you do.....cringe

 

[stallon]

He seems to be injured a lot. I dont recall there being a lot of suspensions. Do you know what all of his injuries have been?

Others are claiming its his back. You are saying it isnt. So, what is it?

Nothing of note. Not like hes got constant soft tissue injuries or anything.
He played every game in 2020, last year he got tunnelled(back injury), and this year he got a concussion + suspension into being rested for the final however many games.
Hes been reasonably durable

 

[stallon]

You're the one blinded here.. pick 13&30 is worth more on points value than 13&13 with 23 coming back..

I dont give a flying **** what the points value is.

That couldnt be less relevant to this thread.
Pick 19+20 is worth 1860 points, pick 5 is worth 1878 points. How many clubs would trade pick 5 away for picks 19 and 20?

 

[HairyO]

Nothing of note. Not like hes got constant soft tissue injuries or anything.
He played every game in 2020, last year he got tunnelled(back injury), and this year he got a concussion + suspension into being rested for the final however many games.
Hes been reasonably durable

Rested? Or dropped because he told the club he wanted out ?

 

[stallon]

Rested? Or dropped because he told the club he wanted out ?

Rested because he was looking at a trade

 

[MITSUHIRATO]

Genuine question because WCE are an anomaly… Is he even widely considered to be among the top echelon of KPDs in the league?

Or is it because there’s none on the market that he seems more appealing?