Confirmed Tom Barrass & 2025 F4 (WCE) traded to Hawthorn for 2025 F1, F2 & F3 (all Haw)

[stallon]

Largely forgotten when it comes to draft time is that even with picks pushed back due to academy/father son bids, pick 13 is STILL getting the 13th best player in the open pool even if it falls to 18 or 19.

The clubs know this.

If 13 and 30 (as an example) was the offer West Coast were content with, they aren't suddenly going to push back because those picks could be 18 and 37 on the night.

It sounds like they are 'worse', of course, however that isn't really how it works.

Yeah ok, did you mean to reply to me or somebody else

 

[stallon]

Are you sure it’s our first draft round pick? Nothing conclusive but rumour has it Eagles were super keen on Josh Ward.

I have no inside info, it’s just rumour. How ever it does make me wonder if it’s maybe two players.

Youre right, maybe Ward or someone of a similarly high value will be the main part of the trade, we can only guess trade value based off picks until we know more though. As far as we know Ward probably doesnt want to come to WA I dont think, if he wanted more opportunity he could get it in victoria.

 

[Blackhawk42]

Yeah ok, did you mean to reply to me or somebody else

Yes.

I was using your post as the basis to bring up a point many people miss.

It seems that the actual value of the picks and where they end up is important to some, but it isn't that cut and dry.

 

[stallon]

So who are your best young players who will lead you to the promised land ?

Do you actually care?
People who ask this very rarely actually care, theyre usually just looking for a way to pick at whoever gets listed and dismiss them all as either long shots or crap to try to win an argument

 

[stallon]

Yes.

I was using your post as the basis to bring up a point many people miss.

It seems that the actual value of the picks and where they end up is important to some, but it isn't that cut and dry.

Well to clarify, I meant your picks that relate to the positions that I said, im not counting bids

 

[CaptainWorpedo]

Youre right, maybe Ward or someone of a similarly high value will be the main part of the trade, we can only guess trade value based off picks until we know more though. As far as we know Ward probably doesnt want to come to WA I dont think, if he wanted more opportunity he could get it in victoria.

I am not sure we even want to lose Ward. Just rumour and reported during the attempted to get pick one off the eagles, Wards name was mentioned by Eagles.

 

[The Golden Glenferrie]

Out of curiosity what are you expecting as a min trade ?

WE WONT TOO FURSTTTTSSS MIMAMUM!!!!

 

[HairyO]

Do you actually care?
People who ask this very rarely actually care, theyre usually just looking for a way to pick at whoever gets listed and dismiss them all as either long shots or crap to try to win an argument

Sure. We all know Reid, but who are the others?

There are WCE supporters in here talking about how good the Eagles list is. Which, given the age of the list and where you sit on the ladder feels a little overly optimistic.

 

[CaptainWorpedo]

Do you actually care?
People who ask this very rarely actually care, theyre usually just looking for a way to pick at whoever gets listed and dismiss them all as either long shots or crap to try to win an argument

I like Chesser and I think he will come good for you and reach the potential shown in his JNR day.

I still think Brocky will be a player, just have to unlock his consistency. I like him better as a F- Mid it unlocks his X factor in game

Ginbey could the equivalent to our Will Day for the eagles

The others I like are Hewitt, long, Hall, Bazzo, Cullen and obviously Harley Reid

 

[stallon]

Sure. We all know Reid, but who are the others?

There are WCE supporters in here talking about how good the Eagles list is. Which, given the age of the list and where you sit on the ladder feels a little overly optimistic.

I dont think anybody was in here talking up the Eagles list, we have all been saying we need more 1st round picks.

Hough, Ginbey, Hewett, Maric, Long and Reid(the other one) are names to add to Harley who I think are highly likely to be very good players if they stick around and if injury doesnt stop them, only counting guys aged 21 or under.
Theres a bunch more who I think are/will be AFL quality, but probably not to the level of these guys, or I havent seen enough

 

[stallon]

I like Chesser and I think he will come good for you and reach the potential shown in his JNR day.

I still think Brocky will be a player, just have to unlock his consistency. I like him better as a F- Mid it unlocks his X factor in game

Ginbey could the equivalent to our Will Day for the eagles

The others I like are Hewitt, long, Hall, Bazzo, Cullen and obviously Harley Reid

Chesser is an unknown, havent really found a role that suits him yet. Wing doesnt suit him from what we have seen, he was tried as a defender at the end of the year.

Brockman had some issues this year, but didnt really show a lot. Hopefully next year is better now hes a bit more settled.

Ginbey doesnt have the class of Day, I dont think he ever will. Hes far more athletic and powerful though. Looks very good off half back

Culley is not that good, he tries but a bit slow, I have low confidence. Hall I like but hasnt had much opportunity to play midfield at AFL level yet, no rush though. Long, Bazzo and Hewett injury affected unfortunately so havent seen as much as we'd have liked

 

[bluespooner]

Even if Barrass is upset with the club , he is contracted ..Hawthorn have pursued Barrass so Eagles want to be compensated because two months ago Barrass was our player for another three seasons .

Barrass's manager has reached out to Hawthorn, via the connection with west coast from Mitchell and Hickmott, and this has occurred as west coast has backed away from the handshake deal he had with Nisbett and O'Brien to improve the terms of his contract.

The issue could have been resolved if Don Pyke and Matthew Clarke had honoured the deal instead there intent in using Tom Barrass to get early draft picks.

 

[Barrybran]

Also, 13 is pushed out but 30 may come in because of matching picks.

30 will likely go out as well as some of the picks that can be used to match are likely to be traded to clubs who can use them

 

[kerrazy]

Barrass's manager has reached out to Hawthorn, via the connection with west coast from Mitchell and Hickmott, and this has occurred as west coast has backed away from the handshake deal he had with Nisbett and O'Brien to improve the terms of his contract.

The issue could have been resolved if Don Pyke and Matthew Clarke had honoured the deal instead there intent in using Tom Barrass to get early draft picks.

Except they didn't back away. The Eagles upped his contract but Barrass wasn't satisfied.

This has been said a number of times.

 

[Astro35]

That was reported in the media, which means absolutely nothing.

What media? I've only seen these comments in this thread.

Barrass's manager has reached out to Hawthorn, via the connection with west coast from Mitchell and Hickmott, and this has occurred as west coast has backed away from the handshake deal he had with Nisbett and O'Brien to improve the terms of his contract.

The issue could have been resolved if Don Pyke and Matthew Clarke had honoured the deal instead there intent in using Tom Barrass to get early draft picks.

Those evil Eagles, thank God for the selfless Hawks

 

[ghostbat12]

Barrass's manager has reached out to Hawthorn, via the connection with west coast from Mitchell and Hickmott, and this has occurred as west coast has backed away from the handshake deal he had with Nisbett and O'Brien to improve the terms of his contract.

The issue could have been resolved if Don Pyke and Matthew Clarke had honoured the deal instead there intent in using Tom Barrass to get early draft picks.

See that’s where it all went wrong. Reading above, why is he talking about nisbett and obrien? If we go with how hawthorn thing went, why didn’t his manager contact west coast via the connection with Simpson and shuey instead?

What a load of shite above is.

 

[bzparkes]

Barrass's manager has reached out to Hawthorn, via the connection with west coast from Mitchell and Hickmott, and this has occurred as west coast has backed away from the handshake deal he had with Nisbett and O'Brien to improve the terms of his contract.

The issue could have been resolved if Don Pyke and Matthew Clarke had honoured the deal instead there intent in using Tom Barrass to get early draft picks.

"Obviously it’s a sensitive time but I’d like to thank the club and particularly (chief executive) Don Pyke for the respect they’ve treated me with over the last little while and really for raising me,” Barrass said.

 

[TY24]

Except they didn't back away. The Eagles upped his contract but Barrass wasn't satisfied.

This has been said a number of times.

But it doesn’t suit their narrative!

 

[THE_GUN]

Everyone that leaves their employer is upset with them, it couldn't possibly be because another employer came and offered them more money, eh?

I dont think Rioli , Baker , Graham or Bolton are upset with Richmond

 

[bzparkes]

I dont think Rioli , Baker , Graham or Bolton are upset with Richmond

Just like Barrass clearly isn't upset with WCE.

"Obviously it’s a sensitive time but I’d like to thank the club and particularly (chief executive) Don Pyke for the respect they’ve treated me with over the last little while and really for raising me,” Barrass said.

 

[TY24]

Just like Barrass clearly isn't upset with WCE.

You’re talking to a brick wall mate

 

[bzparkes]

You’re talking to a brick wall mate

Oh I know, just some weird Richmond supporter posting their fanfiction on the D&T board.

Good for laughs at the delusion, I guess.

 

[THE_GUN]

I think the eagles have accepted they will just accept the Hawks offer and move on and wipe this mess under the carpet and be grateful for what they get . The supporters wont be over the moon but they will be understanding of the circumstance.
"With the club already saying they will help facilitate a trade, the move looks inevitable and Barrass will soon move his young family to Melbourne."

 

[bzparkes]

I think the eagles have accepted they will just accept the Hawks offer and move on and wipe this mess under the carpet and be grateful for what they get . The supporters wont be over the moon but they will be understanding of the circumstance.
"With the club already saying they will help facilitate a trade, the move looks inevitable and Barrass will soon move his young family to Melbourne."

"I’d like to thank the club and particularly (chief executive) Don Pyke"

 

[THE_GUN]

"I’d like to thank the club and particularly (chief executive) Don Pyke"

Yes he is thanking him for taking what Hawks will offer

Classy bloke Tom