Confirmed Tom Barrass & 2025 F4 (WCE) traded to Hawthorn for 2025 F1, F2 & F3 (all Haw)

[Elite Pete]

This post would have had more credibility if you had
Tom Barrass has said he is not going anywhere and is a happily contracted player that intends to finish his career at the eagles in his home state unless somebody pulls the rug out from under him.

You still have time to edit and insert my post into yours ( only 218 people have read it so far)

And again…

 

[THE_GUN]

And again…

Is that not what TB said ????

you must be drunk

 

[THE_GUN]

‘No chance’

And no club has given a top 10 pick ........... whats your point
and Eagles wont give him 200k because they are desperate for the pick

 

[THE_GUN]

Just that you wouldn’t be a great betting man.

Happy to bet and pay anybody in advance to any charity you like ...........

No 2 x 1st round picks

 

[stallon]

Hahahaha

So you agree Rioli is worth more in a trade now
nice back track

That's not what I said at all??

What they fetch in a trade and what they're worth aren't the same thing dumbass

 

[stallon]

Don't bother, same got told to pull his head in on another thread for trying stupid bet crap.

Yeah I know lol, I was hoping to get a straight answer of what he thinks rioli is actually worth but seems I won't get it

 

[HeHateMe]

Barrass isn't staying people need to stop running with the pony up or we will keep him. A deal will be worked out that suits all parties, Haw and WC don't fk around with this type of stuff.

I can't see 2 firsts being involved in any shape of form currently, but their is still lots of things to play out. WC and Hawthorn will have deal in principle, my guess something like 13 and F2nd but will then work together to get a better outcome. What happens with Baker, Frost, Serong, whoever else and other deals will have a bearing.

 

[Elite Pete]

Is that not what TB said ????

you must be drunk

I tried to educate you at the time about how often players and coaches say stuff like this and still move on but you sadly don’t like to listen once you have a narrative.

Keep embarrassing yourself, it’s a good read.

 

[MisterMarcus]

Barrass isn't staying people need to stop running with the pony up or we will keep him. A deal will be worked out that suits all parties, Haw and WC don't fk around with this type of stuff.

I can't see 2 firsts being involved in any shape of form currently, but their is still lots of things to play out. WC and Hawthorn will have deal in principle, my guess something like 13 and F2nd but will then work together to get a better outcome. What happens with Baker, Frost, Serong, whoever else and other deals will have a bearing.

I wonder if Hawthorn could engineer an early/mid-20s pick somewhere? Your current second is 30, and I think most people would believe you'd be thereabouts next year.

Two firsts is probably overs, but perhaps if you could find a slightly better 2nd rounder, something like 13 + (say) 22 might do it?

 

[Elite Pete]

I wonder if Hawthorn could engineer an early/mid-20s pick somewhere? Your current second is 30, and I think most people would believe you'd be thereabouts next year.

Two firsts is probably overs, but perhaps if you could find a slightly better 2nd rounder, something like 13 + (say) 22 might do it?

Sydney would be the likely trader in that scenario with Pick 17/18* (21*) and 19 (22*) and wanting Frost but not sure he has the value for them to move up 11 spots in the draft. Maybe the Saints 24 if that’s where Frost goes. Frost and 30 for Saints 24

I think pick 13 and future first for TB and F2 which is pretty much what most are going with is fair. With how compromised the draft is suppose to be the and the Hawks with two second picks and one being a likely an early second round pick they will be able to easily get back into the first round of the draft of 2025 if they wish. Will be plenty if teams trading back for points next year.

Let’s say the Hawks just miss finals next year and Eagles finish 2nd bottom. With Picks 20 and 29 they would have enough points to move up to pick 10 again with one of the teams who has academy kids expected to go around then.

 

[daniel23]

Absolutely zero chance barrass is walking back to Lathlain, the deal is done. Other clubs knew what it would take to get a deal done before clubs met with him, that's fact. Eagles put the feelers out.

 

[The Golden Glenferrie]

Absolutely zero chance barrass is walking back to Lathlain, the deal is done.

TOOOO FIRSSSTSSS MINNAMIN!

 

[HeHateMe]

I wonder if Hawthorn could engineer an early/mid-20s pick somewhere? Your current second is 30, and I think most people would believe you'd be thereabouts next year.

Two firsts is probably overs, but perhaps if you could find a slightly better 2nd rounder, something like 13 + (say) 22 might do it?

Maybe a Future pick is more likely with Sydney.

 

[new breed]

Nice story but your talents are wasted here

story telling is a career option you should consider

Haha , ArdentE is very good in mock drafts too .

Guess Hawks pick 13 + F2 + F3 for Tommy who will bring class and intelligence to the Hawks plus marking ability .

 

[bluespooner]

Hawthorn have picks.

Why are Richmond supposedly getting some huge bounty for their contracted (and uncontracted) players, but West Coast are going to just give Barrass to Hawthorn?

Hawthorn isn't the swans, they've been paying overs in most trades for sometime i.e. Wingard and JOM come to mind. What were the swans prepared to offer WC for a year younger less banged-up Barrass last off-season? I suspect it wouldn't involved the swans first rounder let alone anything more than that.

This won't be a Franklin situation where Hawthorn had to hand over the most valuable player in the competition to a club playing under a different salary cap and exclusive rules not open to other teams. Gotta think Hawthorn will make a fair offer for a 29 year old but will not cave into the exorbitant trade demands being posted in this thread by WC posters.

 

[Elite Pete]

Hawthorn isn't the swans, they've been paying overs in most trades for sometime i.e. Wingard and JOM come to mind. What were the swans prepared to offer WC for year younger Barrass last off-season? I suspect it wouldn't involved the swans first rounder let alone anything more than that.

This won't be a Franklin situation where Hawthorn had to hand over the most valuable player in the competition to a club playing under a different salary cap and exclusive rules not open to other teams. Gotta think Hawthorn will make a fair offer for a 29 year old but will not cave into the exorbitant trade demands being posted in this thread by WC posters.

Been reported on Gettable and Tradies Swans offer would’ve included 2 first round picks. Not sure how they would know that as it probably didnt get that far unless it’s what they told his manager.

 

[tombomb]

Hawthorn isn't the swans, they've been paying overs in most trades for sometime i.e. Wingard and JOM come to mind. What were the swans prepared to offer WC for a year younger less banged-up Barrass last off-season? I suspect it wouldn't involved the swans first rounder let alone anything more than that.

This won't be a Franklin situation where Hawthorn had to hand over the most valuable player in the competition to a club playing under a different salary cap and exclusive rules not open to other teams. Gotta think Hawthorn will make a fair offer for a 29 year old but will not cave into the exorbitant trade demands being posted in this thread by WC posters.

Thanks for clarifying that this is different to the Franklin move.

 

[ghostbat12]

Absolutely zero chance barrass is walking back to Lathlain, the deal is done. Other clubs knew what it would take to get a deal done before clubs met with him, that's fact. Eagles put the feelers out.

Technically deal is not done as trade period, to get the deal done, is not yet open.

And that’s a fact. It’s not a fact if you just believe it to be true. Thats a fact.

We are all hoping, especially THe Gun, that list managers read this thread and go ahead with the deal offered by whoever wins in the thread.

 

[bzparkes]

Hawthorn isn't the swans, they've been paying overs in most trades for sometime i.e. Wingard and JOM come to mind. What were the swans prepared to offer WC for a year younger less banged-up Barrass last off-season? I suspect it wouldn't involved the swans first rounder let alone anything more than that.

This won't be a Franklin situation where Hawthorn had to hand over the most valuable player in the competition to a club playing under a different salary cap and exclusive rules not open to other teams. Gotta think Hawthorn will make a fair offer for a 29 year old but will not cave into the exorbitant trade demands being posted in this thread by WC posters.

Yes.

Franklin was a FA, Barrass is contracted for 3 more years

 

[Iceman!]

Sydney would be the likely trader in that scenario with Pick 17/18* (21*) and 19 (22*) and wanting Frost but not sure he has the value for them to move up 11 spots in the draft. Maybe the Saints 24 if that’s where Frost goes. Frost and 30 for Saints 24

I think pick 13 and future first for TB and F2 which is pretty much what most are going with is fair. With how compromised the draft is suppose to be the and the Hawks with two second picks and one being a likely an early second round pick they will be able to easily get back into the first round of the draft of 2025 if they wish. Will be plenty if teams trading back for points next year.

Let’s say the Hawks just miss finals next year and Eagles finish 2nd bottom. With Picks 20 and 29 they would have enough points to move up to pick 10 again with one of the teams who has academy kids expected to go around then.

Hard pass on moving on Frost to move up a few spots in the second round, i know as a player he gets memed a lot but he had a legitimately really good year.

 

[Barrybran]

Sydney would be the likely trader in that scenario with Pick 17/18* (21*) and 19 (22*) and wanting Frost but not sure he has the value for them to move up 11 spots in the draft. Maybe the Saints 24 if that’s where Frost goes. Frost and 30 for Saints 24

I think pick 13 and future first for TB and F2 which is pretty much what most are going with is fair. With how compromised the draft is suppose to be the and the Hawks with two second picks and one being a likely an early second round pick they will be able to easily get back into the first round of the draft of 2025 if they wish. Will be plenty if teams trading back for points next year.

Let’s say the Hawks just miss finals next year and Eagles finish 2nd bottom. With Picks 20 and 29 they would have enough points to move up to pick 10 again with one of the teams who has academy kids expected to go around then.

Hard pass on moving on Frost to move up a few spots in the second round, i know as a player he gets memed a lot but he had a legitimately really good year.

What is Frost's value?

 

[Elite Pete]

What is Frost's value?

What ever someone is prepared to pay…..

No idea, do the Hawks need list spots? Clearly don’t need salary cap space. Not over the Hawks list as their supporters would be.

Keep hearing the draft is so even and teams boards will be very different so is moving up/back a few spots that much value.

 

[HeHateMe]

Yeah apparently it's very even, I don't think we will be see any pick 11+F2nd for pick 10 draft day trades this year.

 

[lordbob]

What is Frost's value?

2 firsts

 

[FootyLad0]

Hard pass on moving on Frost to move up a few spots in the second round, i know as a player he gets memed a lot but he had a legitimately really good year.

I think the question becomes where does he fit in?

Barrass, Battle, Sicily, CJ, Hardwick, Serong, Impey, Weddle, Scrimshaw are guys i can think of off the top of my head that are in line for selection as best 22 (23) defenders (i'm sure you blokes could name more!)

That's 9 blokes plus Frost makes 10 and then that's not even mentioning Blanck who has been out for ages which makes it 11.

11 blokes trying to fit into 6 spots plus 1 bench player so 7 spots.
I can see Frosty might be the unlucky one and get squeezed out, he'd be spending a lot of time playing for Box Hill.

Team like North needs Key Defenders, he would be much more likely to get a gig there.