Player Watch Tom Langdon (Retired 2020)

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frizzle said:
This was the whole point I've been making & copping some smart arse replies to boot. (We all sit behind a keyboard mate & the last part of your first reply to me wasn't called for) Some make personal attacks from behind it. Some praise & some criticise from behind a keyboard.

The point is, are we getting the right advice. If we get this sort of thing wrong too often then perhaps we should look elsewhere for advice? But somehow it has been hijacked into a players say versus clubs say. We suck at almost all points of injury management & have for years. Not sure how that can be argued to be honest.
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Presented with exactly the same evidence, why would any surgeon draw vastly different conclusions or make vastly differing recommendations? Do you know that they don't seek 2nd opinions?
 
frizzle said:
If this was an isolated incident I'd be fine with it. But we seem to delay surgery only to do it anyway several weeks later far too often.

Jamie Elliott example
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I would 100% agree that the club got the Elliott one wrong.

Going in for surgery two weeks after returning for pre-season was mad. The testing that lead to that decision should have been undertaken much earlier (while Elliott was busy peeing in public...) and his hamstring problems were in all likelihood a result of the delayed surgery because he tried to play catch up.

The Langdon one however as an ongoing problem that’s been managed extensively for a number of years is a very different case. That remains the overriding point for me that each case is different whilst one player might surf when they should be going in for surgery another might do all the right things and still have the same recovery period.
 

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Scodog10 said:
I would 100% agree that the club got the Elliott one wrong.

Going in for surgery two weeks after returning for pre-season was mad. The testing that lead to that decision should have been undertaken much earlier (while Elliott was busy peeing in public...) and his hamstring problems were in all likelihood a result of the delayed surgery because he tried to play catch up.

The Langdon one however as an ongoing problem that’s been managed extensively for a number of years is a very different case. That remains the overriding point for me that each case is different whilst one player might surf when they should be going in for surgery another might do all the right things and still have the same recovery period.
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The Dale Thomas example.
The best outcome is to avoid surgery all together so I can understand why departments give the players time to "rest" the injury and see if it can come good before the seemingly inevitable surgery is performed after preseason starts.

It's frustrating but there will be guys who went away for their end of season break with sore groins and shoulders and knees who came back without the soreness, the rest did it's job.
 
Apex36 said:
Well it’s news at least. Not sure if it’s good or not yet given the non committal statement from Walsh.
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Anything is better than nothing at all. I'll take it as a good sign.
 
Lime22 said:
All clear from the surgeon seems to be positive news.
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Definitely.
Surgeons are a conservative lot, so the thumbs up is a good sign.

Of course no guarantees how the knee will react to the return to training, so you can understand why Walsh is conservative at this stage
 
So what type of surgery can fix a knee that is bone on bone as his knee has been described? My right knee is bone on bone and replacement is the only option, though I’m old and not looking to play footy.
 

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Lime22 said:
He is contracted until the end of 2021, but he does turn up to training and is serious about wanting to get back and contribute.

Beams is more of a liability. Don't shoot the messenger - this is reality.
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Timmy from Thomastown said:
If it’s not bad news then that’s good news. Only been missing since round 9 2019 so if we have to carry him all season, it will be worth it. Was one of our best players in 2018 and deserves every opportunity to make a full recovery.
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Agree fully with this he over the course of his full career fully deserves a chance to come back.
 
'cept...if it's bone on bone he will never fully recover.
Docs look like they've said: "You can't make it any worse, if you can stand the pain we'll replace it in the end"
Blokes have done it before him so, good luck to the lad. Don't expect him to jump too high if it's his take off leg. Or kick too much if its his kicking leg.

Poor kid, he's only mid twenties!
 
Robroy22 said:
'cept...if it's bone on bone he will never fully recover.
Docs look like they've said: "You can't make it any worse, if you can stand the pain we'll replace it in the end"
Blokes have done it before him so, good luck to the lad. Don't expect him to jump too high if it's his take off leg. Or kick too much if its his kicking leg.

Poor kid, he's only mid twenties!
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chop off his leg haha.
 
Did we know the seriousness of this issue when we re-signed him? Given other clubs were chasing him it may not have been common knowledge.
 

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Player Watch Tom Langdon (Retired 2020)

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