Strategy Trade and List management Thread Part 5 (opposition supporters - READ posting rules before posting)

[CaptainMurphy]

Surely we give Weightman one of #3 or #5 and give Jones back his Number 19? And give West Number 7. Give our pick 11 an early Guernsey number too.
Give Lobb one of 12, 13, 14 or 18.

I reckon West is the least chance to move up, surely kids want to get out of their dad's shadow.

I reckon Weightman --> 3, Garcia --> 5, Richards --> 7, Lobb --> 8

 

[weltschmerz]

I reckon West is the least chance to move up, surely kids want to get out of their dad's shadow.

I reckon Weightman --> 3, Garcia --> 5, Richards --> 7, Lobb --> 8

Weightman taking Wallis' number would be quite sweet, Wallis was his mentor.

 

[hatescaptcha]

Weightman taking Wallis' number would be quite sweet, Wallis was his mentor.

Yep all for Weightman getting the #3


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[CaptainMurphy]

Fans love the romance of a father/son taking the Dads number, but it rarely happens. Think kids would rather forge their own identity.

Having said that I'd like to see Sam get 13, a nice symmetry following granddad David , 15 and Luke , 14.

Unsustainable - when Sam's great great great great great great great great great great great grandson debuts in 2347 what's he gonna wear, number 0?? Think it through man

 

[Bulldogs85]

Delisted Bulldog Mitch Wallis is keen to continue his AFL career after being left a “little bit bitter” by the club’s decision to move him on.

The Western Bulldogs announced Wallis would not be offered a new contract on Monday morning, farewelling the 29-year-old after 12 seasons and 162 games.
Wallis was the club’s vice-captain in 2021 and was one of the Dogs’ best players through a period that saw the club claim the 2016 premiership, despite the midfielder missing with a broken leg.

But after spending most of the past two seasons out of the best 22, Wallis was disappointed his time at Whitten Oval ended as it has.

“You could call it a surprise. There wasn’t a contract per se on the table but more of a wait-and-see type approach,” he told SEN’s Dwayne’s World.

“I’m an optimistic person so I thought it would happen. The club’s had a fair bit of movement this off-season. I was hoping to stay on because I’ve still got a fair bit of fire in the belly, the last few seasons haven’t really played in my favour with injuries and the
“It didn’t fall my way but in saying that, I’m obviously very grateful for the time. 12 years is a long time at one club and the game so I can’t be more grateful for the opportunities I was given there.

“But it ends abruptly… you sever ties quite quickly and probably the only regret is I didn’t get to do it in front of my teammates and some of the staff members who have been so important to my journey and invested a lot of time, energy and emotions into me.

“To sort of be on holidays and have to make the call is something that leaves me a little bit bitter but at the end of the day it’s a ruthless industry and I look forward.”

Wallis admitted that one of the great mysteries of his career is why he spent the prime of his footy years out of Luke Beveridge’s 22.

After being elevated to Marcus Bontempelli

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Marcus Bontempelli

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28

Ht

194cm

Wt

96kg

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Mid

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22.5

5star

K

12.3

5star

HB

10.3

5star

M

3.6

4star

T

4.8

5star

CL

4.4

5star

D

18.4

4star

K

9.7

4star

HB

8.8

4star

M

2.6

3star

T

4.1

5star

CL

4.0

5star

D

12.0

3star

K

5.8

3star

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6.2

4star

M

2.0

3star

T

3.8

5star

CL

1.8

4star

’s deputy, Wallis played six games in 2021 before five in 2022.

It came after he reinvented himself as a forward in 2020, but has consistently found himself out of the midfield and forward mix.

When asked why he’s been left out of the team in recent years, Wallis replied: “good question.

“It’s one of those things I’ll never fully understand and I’ll grapple with it… as long as I think about footy.

“Obviously would have loved a little bit more opportunity to play and show my worth, but that’s just the way the match committee and Luke went.

“He’s the senior coach, he’s in control and he makes decisions at the end of the day that you have to live with.

“I was never going to fight it, but I just wanted to do everything and train as hard as I could to prove I was worthy of a game.

“I only played a handful of games this year but I felt like I turned it around a little bit before I got injured, unfortunately, but that’s footy.”

Nevertheless, Wallis is keen to continue his AFL career.

He’s completely recovered from foot surgery in June this year and added he was prepared to move anywhere to keep the dream alive.

“It’s still pretty raw, I haven’t totally moved on from the Bulldogs yet... we’ll explore (the interest) over the coming weeks and see what’s out there,” the ex-Bulldog offered.

“I’m keen to keep playing but at the end of the day, we’ll let the dust settle and acknowledge a club that’s been so kind to me and take the next step in due course.

“I love footy… I’m open to all offers and all ideas, but it’s only been a few hours and a few days that I’ve come to terms with not playing in the red, white and blue.”

 

[CaptainMurphy]

Delisted Bulldog Mitch Wallis is keen to continue his AFL career after being left a “little bit bitter” by the club’s decision to move him on.

The Western Bulldogs announced Wallis would not be offered a new contract on Monday morning, farewelling the 29-year-old after 12 seasons and 162 games.
Wallis was the club’s vice-captain in 2021 and was one of the Dogs’ best players through a period that saw the club claim the 2016 premiership, despite the midfielder missing with a broken leg.

But after spending most of the past two seasons out of the best 22, Wallis was disappointed his time at Whitten Oval ended as it has.

“You could call it a surprise. There wasn’t a contract per se on the table but more of a wait-and-see type approach,” he told SEN’s Dwayne’s World.

“I’m an optimistic person so I thought it would happen. The club’s had a fair bit of movement this off-season. I was hoping to stay on because I’ve still got a fair bit of fire in the belly, the last few seasons haven’t really played in my favour with injuries and the
“It didn’t fall my way but in saying that, I’m obviously very grateful for the time. 12 years is a long time at one club and the game so I can’t be more grateful for the opportunities I was given there.

“But it ends abruptly… you sever ties quite quickly and probably the only regret is I didn’t get to do it in front of my teammates and some of the staff members who have been so important to my journey and invested a lot of time, energy and emotions into me.

“To sort of be on holidays and have to make the call is something that leaves me a little bit bitter but at the end of the day it’s a ruthless industry and I look forward.”

Wallis admitted that one of the great mysteries of his career is why he spent the prime of his footy years out of Luke Beveridge’s 22.

After being elevated to Marcus Bontempelli’s deputy, Wallis played six games in 2021 before five in 2022.

It came after he reinvented himself as a forward in 2020, but has consistently found himself out of the midfield and forward mix.

When asked why he’s been left out of the team in recent years, Wallis replied: “good question.

“It’s one of those things I’ll never fully understand and I’ll grapple with it… as long as I think about footy.

“Obviously would have loved a little bit more opportunity to play and show my worth, but that’s just the way the match committee and Luke went.

“He’s the senior coach, he’s in control and he makes decisions at the end of the day that you have to live with.

“I was never going to fight it, but I just wanted to do everything and train as hard as I could to prove I was worthy of a game.

“I only played a handful of games this year but I felt like I turned it around a little bit before I got injured, unfortunately, but that’s footy.”

Nevertheless, Wallis is keen to continue his AFL career.

He’s completely recovered from foot surgery in June this year and added he was prepared to move anywhere to keep the dream alive.

“It’s still pretty raw, I haven’t totally moved on from the Bulldogs yet... we’ll explore (the interest) over the coming weeks and see what’s out there,” the ex-Bulldog offered.

“I’m keen to keep playing but at the end of the day, we’ll let the dust settle and acknowledge a club that’s been so kind to me and take the next step in due course.

“I love footy… I’m open to all offers and all ideas, but it’s only been a few hours and a few days that I’ve come to terms with not playing in the red, white and blue.”

Oh damn, wish I hadn't read that

 

[Bulldogs85]

Oh damn, wish I hadn't read that

I was thinking the some when I was reading it

 

[Mofra]

A much deeper cut than I expected. Interesting. Wonder what is on the cards. Even if we assume we go into the season with a mid-season draft list spot, that's still five open list spots - two more than we have decent picks for.

Unless we underload the list in the hopes of being at the -10% cap floor to give us +10% next off season

Perhaps trading back into the draft this year?
We absolutely have to take a ruck. Rookie a mature ager or a bigger kid.

 

[Pugz89]

A much deeper cut than I expected. Interesting. Wonder what is on the cards. Even if we assume we go into the season with a mid-season draft list spot, that's still five open list spots - two more than we have decent picks for.

Unless we underload the list in the hopes of being at the -10% cap floor to give us +10% next off season

Isn't 5% the threshold for over/under manipulation?

 

[VitalDread]

 

[bobs head soup]

Unsustainable - when Sam's great great great great great great great great great great great grandson debuts in 2347 what's he gonna wear, number 0?? Think it through man

Fair. Once Max takes 12, the clock will already be ticking...

 

[gangsta deluxe]

I was thinking the some when I was reading it

It's not surprising though. He just didn't have the right attributes needed by the team.

Any professional is going to burn about that and want to be utilised more.

 

[Barking Mad]

Oh dammit, if he’s keen to go on I’m sure someone will pick him up. Will be like watching Hawk or Crossy in diff colours.
Forgetting about Wally’s well being, I hope nobody does and we rookie him.
It’s a pipe dream I know but probably better than my lotto chance still.

 

[TiAn_]

I feel like he lost his spot when we changed up the ruck/KPF situation around Naughton and Bruce in 2021 and also brought in Mitch Hannan. We generally preferred to use a second ruckman and only one medium that year, which was usually Hannan.

 

[Testekill]

Wished we got Stefan Martin way back in 2017 when he wanted to return home

Yeah if we got him when we initially went calling for him then we'd have been really happy.

 

[Mr. Walker]

Yep all for Weightman getting the #3


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This is probably going to be unpopular but ……….. if the club didn’t want to give the #3 to Weightman I won’t be disappointed. I like Weightman as a player and think he is best 22. If he played a more crumbing rather than a high flying game I would like him even more.

I would like us to get back to giving the #3 to an out and out star. Whitten was a worthy holder, likewise Grant. The Bont too( missed it by that much). Keep if for a player who is a club legend.
Identifying that player early in his career I will leave to others.

 

[weltschmerz]

This is probably going to be unpopular but ……….. if the club didn’t want to give the #3 to Weightman I won’t be disappointed. I like Weightman as a player and think he is best 22. If he played a more crumbing rather than a high flying game I would like him even more.

I would like us to get back to giving the #3 to an out and out star. Whitten was a worthy holder, likewise Grant. The Bont too( missed it by that much). Keep if for a player who is a club legend.
Identifying that player early in his career I will leave to others.

Naughton could go from 33 to 3 maybe.

 

[doggy_dog]

Whatever we do with guernsey numbers, need to avoid giving no. 8 to Jones or Lobb. Since Hahn 8 has been our revolving door mature recruit number with none really making a mark. Can’t put that curse on the new guys

 

[TiAn_]

So 6 off the main list (Butler, Cordy, Hunter, Martin, Schache and Wallis) and 1 (Parker) off the Rookie list.

Suspect Sweet and Khamis as 2019 rookie draft picks get promoted to the main list. One of Scott or Smith might get promoted as well, but I think they have another year of rookie list eligibility.

So a strong chance we take 3 in the main draft, upgrade 2 and either upgrade a third or leave a main list spot open. Leaving potentially 3-4 rookie list spots open following upgrades.

Decent refresh of list spots.

 

[Anja_Nees]

It's not surprising though. He just didn't have the right attributes needed by the team.

Any professional is going to burn about that and want to be utilised more.

Yep, slow when the ball hit the deck and played like a short tall forward, so when we had a proper lineup of talls he was squeezed. His form early 2021 (including preseason) was not great.

I actually agree with him that he was looking good before his injury this year but that’s that.

 

[geoffjennings79]

So now we have a vacancy for an intellectual ageing ruckman?

 

[gangsta deluxe]

So now we have a vacancy for an intellectual ageing ruckman?

 

[gangsta deluxe]

I actually had a forced unsolicited conversation with old Wilbur after I’d had a few too many a while back at the Royal Oak hotel. He was supporting Brisbane against Richmond in the first elim and when I asked why he explained he’d rather we play them in the grand final.

I love the optimism

 

[Some Idiot]

Seeing as we have Pick 11, I couldn't help but reminisce about some previous pick 11s, Shaun Higgins

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Shaun Higgins

Age

36

Ht

184cm

Wt

89kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

20.4

5star

K

10.6

4star

HB

9.8

5star

M

3.9

4star

T

3.2

5star

G

1.0

4star

D

21.8

5star

K

10.3

4star

HB

11.5

5star

M

2.3

2star

T

3.6

4star

G

0.1

3star

D

12.0

3star

K

7.2

3star

HB

4.8

4star

M

2.8

3star

T

1.8

4star

G

0.6

3star

and Andrejs Everitt

Andrejs Everitt

Age

35

Ht

194cm

Wt

90kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.9

4star

K

8.2

3star

HB

5.7

4star

M

4.5

4star

T

1.8

4star

G

0.7

4star

No current season stats available

D

14.2

4star

K

9.0

4star

HB

5.2

4star

M

4.8

5star

T

1.4

4star

G

0.8

4star

came to mind.

 

[threenewpadlocks]

There is absolutely every chance we take at least one but probably two SSP slots until March, when it expires. Could even carry over the list spot until the mid-season draft if none of the players who train the pre-season with us impress us.

Every chance we give Parker or Butler the opportunity to train with us over the pre-season for exactly that way of getting back on the list.